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Title: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 18, 2012, 10:41:11 PM
Here are info gathered along the way (or the wait...)
More originals than covers. (EDIT: This turned out not to be true ;) ) No classical. Half way between Wide Awake and Classic. Ballads and mid-tempo. One in Italian. "Timeless love songs". Twelve (maybe more) tracks.

Covers:
Skyscraper – Demi Lovato
Something’s Gotten Hold of My Heart - Gene Pitney
How We Love – Beth Nielsen Chapman
I Look To You – Whitney Houston
When I Need You - Leo Sayer
I Don't Want To Talk About It - Rod Stewart etc.
Love Of My Life - Queen
E Pense A Te (And I Think Of You) - Lucio Battisti

Originals:
What have I Done - Self-Penned song by Joe with Jamie Squire (premiered at Sheftival 4/8/2012)
Here’s What I Believe – with Marcella Detroit (and Gavin Clark from Unkle)
Your Voice - with Ludovico Einaudi - & Helen Boulding (from interview with markmeets)
To Have A Broken Heart - Belle Humble & Jez Ashurst
My Love Will Find You - Beth Chapman

BONUS TRACKS:
All originals
Mayday - Joe McElderry, Helen Boulding & Cass Lowe
Silence is the Loudest Cry - Joe McElderry, Gavin Clark & Helen Boulding
Rescue Us - Edvard Forre Erfjord, Henrik Michelsen & Gary Go



Various sources say three tracks written/co-written by Joe but there is info concerning two further tracks - details sketchy:

x - with Helen Boulding (see above - Your Voice)
x - The one written by Joe alone

Original by others:
1 recorded wc 16/07 (seen at studio, reportedly recording B-sides... possibly- could be bonus tracks)
To Have A Broken Heart (premiered at Sheftival 4/8/2012) - written by Belle Humble and Jez Ashurst


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Joe McElderry ‏@joemcelderry91 27/07/12
Off to the studio for a little bit ... x

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Beth Nielsen Chapman - Facebook - 22/07/12 - I caught up with the very talented Joe McElderry who recorded a couple of my songs for his upcoming Decca release...what a voice!

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Joe McElderry ‏@joemcelderry91 21/07/12
I'm excited about my new album Here's what I Believe that we are bringing the release date forward to the 10th of september :D :D

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Joe McElderry ‏@joemcelderry91 19/07/12
Studio was great!! Soo great that i'm now putting one of the bonus tracks on the main album!! :D

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Joe McElderry ‏@joemcelderry91 17/07/12
back in the studio tomorrow to record a few extra things! ;)

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Joe McElderry ‏@joemcelderry91 05/0712
Brilliant night!! Off to eat popcorn and skyping over to america!!
probably with Beth Nielsen Chapman (according to what Joe said on BBC radio Hereford & Worcester 20/08/12)

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Joe McElderry ‏@joemcelderry91 20/06/12
quick re vocal in the studio today!!

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@MusicSalesUK
02/03/12
Writing week Day 4: What a week it's been. New music coming from @LudovicoEinaud @BelleHumble @CassLowe @LouiseNThePins @forgetcape & more
exciting!!!!
05/03/12
Just in the studio listening to the tracks from songwriters. @joemcelderry91 you nearly made me cry! What a voice, what beautiful lyrics.

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Helen Boulding @HelenBoulding
Saturday 03/03/12
great songs @joemcelderry91 , I'm listening back to the 3 we wrote and they sound amazing! well done : )
04/03/12
HELEN BOULDING ‏
@CassLowe hey you! I have had 2 days off, naughty me. Absolutely lovin' the song we wrote with joe! Can't stop singing it : )
4 Mar Michael Price ‏ @michael__price   
@HELENBOULDING @CassLowe Aha - have you guys worked together now? Love you both! M
4 Mar Cass Lowe ‏ @CassLowe   
@michael__price @HELENBOULDING ;) actually come to think of it, if all goes to plan we might need your stringy help, down the line!
Wednesday 14/03/12
HELEN BOULDING ‏ @HELENBOULDING 
Wrote an amazing song today @joemcelderry91 sang the most beautiful vocal..... Just gorgeous : )
HELEN BOULDING ‏@HELENBOULDING
Heard all recordings of the songs we wrote for the album @joemcelderry91 , well done joe! Sounding great! Xx
17/08/12
Helen confirmed that the song that features on the album was written by her AND Joe.

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Cass Lowe @CassLowe
Friday 02/03/12
I've written 8 songs in 5 days.

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Bella Humble @BellaHumble
Friday 02/03/12
@joemcelderry91 is an amazing singer AND a kick-ass songwriter! Cycling round the studio writing and singing songs ;)

The Italian song is 'pop' (from phone interview pre Sheftival)



Original post :D


What would you like for album number four?

Feel free to suggest tracks/genres or anything else.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 18, 2012, 10:57:39 PM
It's rather complicated lol.

I think Joe needs to reference his classical style on the next album to keep hold of the PSTOS fans. But I would like Joe to do a album of KILLER songs, as many originals as possible, ballads and some more pop/rock kind of styles like Affirmation.  I would like Joe to do a 2 CD album, one for the classical stuff and one for the other songs.  I would love an acoustic song or two with just a piano or guitar, or any other lush instrument.

I want Joe and team Joe to work very hard on this album, found/co-written some of the best songs since sliced bread, good production.  And I want us all, as well as the world to love it!

Not asking for much am I? And I clearly haven't thought about it at all.  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 18, 2012, 11:04:54 PM
I would love an album with about 14 tracks: 12 is just too short for a gorgeous voice like his, and 13 is bad luck  :haha:

I guess he would talk about family, friends and home when writing songs, as it is important for him. But there is most probably much more that we don't know about him, and it will be interesting to see what he chooses to sing about.
I would love to hear him sing a song in the rythm and pop/rock style of affirmation.
He needs to have a couple of big lush pop love ballads
Would be good to have Big River on there. I think it would go down really well. It wouldn't have to be the exact same version that is on the DVD Big River Big Song. They could fiddle with the arrangement a bit, although I love it as it is. That could be the only cover on the album.
We need new, new, new and more new material.

I would love to hear another classical song, but I don't know how it would fit with a pop album.

Anyhow, a pop/rock album is definitely what I would like to hear next.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on January 18, 2012, 11:10:06 PM
It's rather complicated lol.

I think Joe needs to reference his classical style on the next album to keep hold of the PSTOS fans. But I would like Joe to do a album of KILLER songs, as many originals as possible, ballads and some more pop/rock kind of styles like Affirmation.  I would like Joe to do a 2 CD album, one for the classical stuff and one for the other songs.  I would love an acoustic song or two with just a piano or guitar, or any other lush instrument.

I want Joe and team Joe to work very hard on this album, found/co-written some of the best songs since sliced bread, good production.  And I want us all, as well as the

Not asking for much am I? And I clearly haven't thought about it at all.  :ilovejoe:


"What Hayley said! "  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on January 18, 2012, 11:24:08 PM
I'm with Hayley on this Joe needs to keep the fans he picked up on PSTOS and by just doing a pop album I fear he would loose some fans. Want the majority of the album to be originals along the lines of Open Arms,Love Story. A 2 CD album as Hayley said is a great idea, more Joe to listen too. :D

For me personally I would be happy with either pop or classical as I just adore Joe voice. :swoon:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 18, 2012, 11:32:11 PM
it would be great for the fans, to have a 2 cd album.
I wonder if anyone has ever done anything like this: 1 pop cd, 1 classical in the same box...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 18, 2012, 11:34:11 PM
it would be great for the fans, to have a 2 cd album.
I wonder if anyone has ever done anything like this: 1 pop cd, 1 classical in the same box...

Don't think so, first time for everything.

Some people have experimented with the uptempo vs ballads double CD album.  Beyonce and Nelly are two I can think of off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 18, 2012, 11:35:21 PM
i agree with hayley too --- i dont feel joe can leave the classics and the fans joe has made from PSTOS -- so  like the idea of the  2 cd album -- one classic cd/ 1 pop / ballads cd too --- and  a bit of accoustics  too/ a bit of all things joe -- and a song or two written by joe originals ( or joe co written) :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: tinabee on January 18, 2012, 11:35:41 PM
 
It's rather complicated lol.

I think Joe needs to reference his classical style on the next album to keep hold of the PSTOS fans. But I would like Joe to do a album of KILLER songs, as many originals as possible, ballads and some more pop/rock kind of styles like Affirmation.  I would like Joe to do a 2 CD album, one for the classical stuff and one for the other songs.  I would love an acoustic song or two with just a piano or guitar, or any other lush instrument.

I want Joe and team Joe to work very hard on this album, found/co-written some of the best songs since sliced bread, good production.  And I want us all, as well as the world to love it!

Not asking for much am I? And I clearly haven't thought about it at all.  :ilovejoe:

 :goodpost: I also agree with Hayley a 2 CD album would be ideal one with classical and one with pop ballads and rock/pop would keep fans of both genres happy, and hopefully well written originals. Great idea, Hayley, lets hope Decca have the same idea.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: tinabee on January 18, 2012, 11:39:54 PM
it would be great for the fans, to have a 2 cd album.
I wonder if anyone has ever done anything like this: 1 pop cd, 1 classical in the same box...

Don't think so, first time for everything.

Some people have experimented with the uptempo vs ballads double CD album.  Beyonce and Nelly are two I can think of off the top of my head.

George Michael was another one. Double album one for the soul and one for the feet, ballad and uptempo. Great album!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 18, 2012, 11:44:45 PM
well, Hayley, I hope you talked to Joe about that. Could work.
I guess it takes quite some time to record, as we want this to be perfetto!!!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 18, 2012, 11:49:08 PM
well, Hayley, I hope you talked to Joe about that. Could work.
I guess it takes quite some time to record, as we want this to be perfetto!!!!!

Nope, funnily enough we didn't talk that much about the next album with Joe when we spoke to him on tour, covered lots of conversations but not really that lol.

If I get a chance to chat to him I will bring it up.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 19, 2012, 12:05:48 AM
yes  hayley -- tell joe when you chat next.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mr wombat on January 19, 2012, 10:55:32 AM
I like the idea of 2 CDs, not as a double album, but as 2 separate albums - a pop-leaning album and a classical-leaning album, with the classical album being a "plan B" in case the pop album doesn't do very well.  If the pop album is a success, then the classical album could be released later in the year, which would be timely if PSTOS is back on.  It would take too long to produce 24-28 songs especially with a lot of new songs.

I hope they produce an album with the intention of promoting it in America.  That straight away will mean no falsettos.  If they can't picture him singing it on an American TV show, then don't waste time recording it.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JoeMegaFan on January 19, 2012, 12:09:39 PM
Joe certainly needs new killer songs to avoid being seen as someone who just does covers or classic songs. We've seen the effect he has on sales of the original artists' versions so it's high time he got this benefit for himself.  He also needs some of them to be great pop songs (a la Adele) to get radio AirPlay and also press coverage. I see very little about Joe in the media so that needs addressed somehow.
Adam Lambert in the USA is an interesting comparison-he has co-written his second album (after an acknowledged rushed first album which didn't show his voice to its best) and his fans there hope this album will get him the respect he deserves. Difference is Adam is on the Leno and Ellen shows getting max promo. Joe needs to be the singer and guest on some national evening shows when he does have a great song to showcase.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on January 19, 2012, 12:55:34 PM
it would be great for the fans, to have a 2 cd album.
I wonder if anyone has ever done anything like this: 1 pop cd, 1 classical in the same box...
Now that would be nice, lets say about 14 tracks on each disc. :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: marylou on January 19, 2012, 04:51:17 PM
I am at a loss to give a definite idea as to what I would choose for his next album.. I do know an awful lot of thought has to be put into it though.

Im at the end of the 'age spectrum' of Joes fans and Im not greatly impressed with a lot of the music of day that is out there..I  do listen to pop and in between loads of rubbish there are some really good numbers.
I dont think he should be chasing the charts, nothing has changed in that particular field and as much as I would like him to smash through the barrier that seems, on the whole, to be up against good singing and great melody, I feel he would be foolish to just pursue that goal.

I love him singing anything, from up beat numbers, big heart wrenching ballads, to Classical and acoustic numbers too.

He's doing very well in the industry at the moment, and is slowly but surely building his fan base.
And I dont want him to rock the boat or take chances at this point.
I would love to hear some new numbers, but am really nervous about how good they will be, to write a stunning number which hits all the right notes and is spot on for Joes voice will not be an easy task.

I, unlike a lot  of fans, am not adverse to hearing him do more covers, there is a wealth of beautifully written music out there, unheard of by the younger generation  and would, once given the 'Joe' touch, be superb!
But Im sure the advice he is given will be well thought out, and Im sure also that Joe will listen long and hard, and will then take the decision himself as to whats the right way to go with his next album  :ilovejoe:

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 19, 2012, 05:03:43 PM
i agree marylou -- altho i feel joe has to keep both pop and classic fans happy -- i dont think joe can just leave the classics behind at this stage and think joe knows that himself and so do decca --- i think joe also knows the fans would like some original songs too -- and thats why he has said about  writing / co writing some songs --- maybe with a little help - from friend ash who writes songs too --- joe will get it right im sure as he  is a perfectionist in his  music --- and i think joe will neverr let us down -- as we know from  everything joe has done before . i hope album 4 is brilliant. :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on January 19, 2012, 05:10:10 PM
I'm even further down/up ? the age spectrum  :( but after Joe's performaces on THE TOUR  I would hate Joe to give up on the pop up beat songs especially if another tour is to come after the album and this is where he may find some new songs but it is difficult to see how he can mix genre's on an album and more so perhaps as he is with Decca.

The Wide Awake songs Joe sang on the Tour were given a great make over especially Ambitions from a cheesey dance set to a exuberant rocky one and a raunchy USRO, and If you Love Me...what a great opener!  the next tour would be sadly lacking without something similar.

So what will Joe/Decca put on album No. 4? :tease:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 19, 2012, 05:20:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNuyvHqGBUw

First time I've tried to put a link up so hope it works  :tease:

If I've done it right it should be the trailer for Josh Groban's concert.
Does anyone think this sort of stuff could be a route for Joe because Josh Groban seems to appeal to all sorts of music tastes.   He does up tempo rocky stuff too.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 19, 2012, 05:25:16 PM
of course joe will still need his pop/ rock  on his album we need them too for tours/ gigs etc --- but i feel if he leaves the classics behind --=- he will find maybe his back to  before PSTOS --- where  we didnt know wether joe would get an album  ever again ---- i just know he cannot leave the l classics behind --- CLASSIC got joe a gold disc in weeks it took him  a year to get gold with  WA ------ we need joe to still keep classics as its popular --- but also to do some pop/ rock aswell so we have the uptempo  aswell which gets the crowd dancing at gigs/ tour/ etc --- afraid joe will have to  mix the genres of music to keep ALL  FANS  happy.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on January 19, 2012, 05:26:33 PM
I am at a loss to give a definite idea as to what I would choose for his next album.. I do know an awful lot of thought has to be put into it though.

Im at the end of the 'age spectrum' of Joes fans and Im not greatly impressed with a lot of the music of day that is out there..I  do listen to pop and in between loads of rubbish there are some really good numbers.
I dont think he should be chasing the charts, nothing has changed in that particular field and as much as I would like him to smash through the barrier that seems, on the whole, to be up against good singing and great melody, I feel he would be foolish to just pursue that goal.

I love him singing anything, from up beat numbers, big heart wrenching ballads, to Classical and acoustic numbers too.

He's doing very well in the industry at the moment, and is slowly but surely building his fan base.
And I dont want him to rock the boat or take chances at this point.
I would love to hear some new numbers, but am really nervous about how good they will be, to write a stunning number which hits all the right notes and is spot on for Joes voice will not be an easy task.

I, unlike a lot  of fans, am not adverse to hearing him do more covers, there is a wealth of beautifully written music out there, unheard of by the younger generation  and would, once given the 'Joe' touch, be superb!
But Im sure the advice he is given will be well thought out, and Im sure also that Joe will listen long and hard, and will then take the decision himself as to whats the right way to go with his next album  :ilovejoe:

 :goodpost:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 19, 2012, 05:33:43 PM
sandyrose --- EXACTLY  right -- JOSH GROBAN --- IS WHAT WE WANT FOR JOE=== CLASSICS/ POP-ROCK COMBINED -- JOE WOULD BE MARKETED THIS WAY IN USA.,/- JOE NEEDS THIS KINDA PROMO ---- by the way joes to where you are --- is better than joshs LIVE.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sarah on January 19, 2012, 05:41:15 PM
Well here goes, I agree with Hayley but also, (And I think some may slate me here but oh well!!!) I would love to hear originals again like Wide Awake but, I would really LOVE to have an album on duets. Cheryl, George Michael, Will Young, Leona Lewis.....You get the picture. Not for his 4 th album but, in the future.

Got a feeling I'm going to get that hairdryer effect from you guys. Ha,ha  :-) xxxxx
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 19, 2012, 05:54:16 PM
after joes 4th album joe could do duets maybe --- george micheal / adele/ etc ----  i wouldnt mind joe singing duets with other GOOD SINGERS --- but i personally would leave cheryl  cole out of it she doesnt sing as good as joe and would spoil it all -------- shes  soooooooooo 2009 --- in my way of seeing joe  now ---- joe sang her  song promise this  soooo much better -- i fear shed spoil it all --- but -- sarah -- DUETS could work i guess ------- sarah NO SLATING --- its a good thought./ idea.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sarah on January 19, 2012, 05:57:07 PM
after joes 4th album joe could do duets maybe --- george micheal / adele/ etc ----  i wouldnt mind joe singing duets with other GOOD SINGERS --- but i personally would leave cheryl  cole out of it she doesnt sing as good as joe and would spoil it all -------- shes  soooooooooo 2009 --- in my way of seeing joe  now ---- joe sang her  song promise this  soooo much better -- i fear shed spoil it all --- but -- sarah -- DUETS could work i guess ------- sarah NO SLATING --- its a good thought./ idea.

Wow!!!! I love you Trudy  :haha:  I like Cheryl though. I think fans of both her and Joe would enjoy them both dueting. xxx
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: marylou on January 19, 2012, 05:57:24 PM
All things are possible Sarah when your blessed with charm and a voice like Joes! and Im sure there will be great duets in the future...
I also loved the Josh Groban intro... Joe could do all of those numbers as easily as falling off a log(he could do that too)..Bearing in mind he is younger and hasnt been going quite as long ..but with investment, and my favourite word.. 'vision' ..there is no doubt in my mind that Joe could deliver an incredible collection of tracks which would earn him even more kudos, followers and another gold disc :ilovejoe:!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on January 19, 2012, 06:03:36 PM
Didn't know Josh Groban did rock ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sug60 on January 19, 2012, 06:07:11 PM
I have to agree with Hayley really think he needs to do some classical on album as Joe did make a lot of new fans from PSTOS. Do hope there will be more pop as this certainly seems to get everyone going at his gigs. I am sure that he will have a go at writing and we all know that Joe is a perfectionist and wants everything spot on. I wouldn't mind a duet somewhere down the line but of course we will just have to wait and see it is all very exciting.  :ilovejoe: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 19, 2012, 06:07:46 PM
Didn't know Josh Groban did rock ;)

Well I grant you he 'aint no Axl Rose but he can rock it out when he wants to!  :rofl3:  :rofl3:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JoeMegaFan on January 19, 2012, 06:10:01 PM
Didn't know Josh Groban did rock ;)

Well I grant you he 'aint no Axl Rose but he can rock it out when he wants to!  :rofl3:  :rofl3:

 :rofl3:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 19, 2012, 06:16:09 PM
thanks sarah :thankyou: love you too :bighug:--- duets could work in future  i think .  and i know what you mean about  joe/ cheryl fans -- but her voice isnt as good as joes thats all.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: orchid on January 19, 2012, 06:18:16 PM
I am at a loss to give a definite idea as to what I would choose for his next album.. I do know an awful lot of thought has to be put into it though.

Im at the end of the 'age spectrum' of Joes fans and Im not greatly impressed with a lot of the music of day that is out there..I  do listen to pop and in between loads of rubbish there are some really good numbers.
I dont think he should be chasing the charts, nothing has changed in that particular field and as much as I would like him to smash through the barrier that seems, on the whole, to be up against good singing and great melody, I feel he would be foolish to just pursue that goal.

I love him singing anything, from up beat numbers, big heart wrenching ballads, to Classical and acoustic numbers too.

He's doing very well in the industry at the moment, and is slowly but surely building his fan base.
And I dont want him to rock the boat or take chances at this point.
I would love to hear some new numbers, but am really nervous about how good they will be, to write a stunning number which hits all the right notes and is spot on for Joes voice will not be an easy task.

I, unlike a lot  of fans, am not adverse to hearing him do more covers, there is a wealth of beautifully written music out there, unheard of by the younger generation  and would, once given the 'Joe' touch, be superb!
But Im sure the advice he is given will be well thought out, and Im sure also that Joe will listen long and hard, and will then take the decision himself as to whats the right way to go with his next album  :ilovejoe:

 :goodpost:

I just hope Joe goes on appealing to all his younger fans.  I know older fans can be a bit more dedicated and loyal but he is only 20 years old and should still be performing to some  fans of his own age.

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 19, 2012, 06:32:49 PM
yes orchid -- joe needs his younger fans too --- his only 20 years old -- hayley is 23 years old shes a fairly young fan who is also dedicated  as alot of fans are young / old / or in between ----- think we just fear if he left classics behind --- we will have problems we had  before PSTOS ------ where we had the downs of the  joe rollercoaster  ride ------ we still need to keep the classic fans --- joe needs ALL FANS  young and older -- but -- he needs to keep fans he has made since PSTOS  too --- and joe knows this -- if joe could combine the two genres --- pop/ classics like josh it would be great .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: tinabee on January 19, 2012, 06:33:59 PM
Re: Josh Groban tour, how I would love that kind of venue and crowd for Joe, and I agree Trudy, Joe's TWYA is much better than Josh's version, in fact from what I heard from the preview Joe sounds 100% better and that's with very little experience and only being 20 years old.  :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 19, 2012, 06:39:39 PM
agree tina bee --- i think if joe was american --- he would have been promoted like josh too.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on January 19, 2012, 06:44:05 PM
To be honest, I have never listened to any of Josh Groban's songs, and if that short excerpt of his tour is anything to go by, Joe has nothing to worry about. He is a far better singer than Josh. I only hope Universal see the potential in Joe and take him and his music to the states.  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: marylou on January 19, 2012, 07:06:18 PM
yes orchid -- joe needs his younger fans too --- his only 20 years old -- hayley is 23 years old shes a fairly young fan who is also dedicated  as alot of fans are young / old / or in between ----- think we just fear if he left classics behind --- we will have problems we had  before PSTOS ------ where we had the downs of the  joe rollercoaster  ride ------ we still need to keep the classic fans --- joe needs ALL FANS  young and older -- but -- he needs to keep fans he has made since PSTOS  too --- and joe knows this -- if joe could combine the two genres --- pop/ classics like josh it would be great .
Fairly Young!!!! she will love you for that!! she is very young.. and only a 'pip' older than our Joe.. Reckon I might start calling myself 'fairly old' it sounds so much better   than!!**!! dont you think Trudy!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 19, 2012, 07:38:43 PM
http://www.billboard.com/news/il-volo-transitions-from-italian-tv-to-american-1005187372.story#/news/il-volo-transitions-from-italian-tv-to-american-1005187372.story

Thought this was interesting re classical crossover in USA and mentioning how they picked the songs and intended marketing.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on January 19, 2012, 07:43:00 PM
http://www.billboard.com/news/il-volo-transitions-from-italian-tv-to-american-1005187372.story#/news/il-volo-transitions-from-italian-tv-to-american-1005187372.story

Thought this was interesting re classical crossover in USA and mentioning how they picked the songs and intended marketing.

 :goodpost: very interesting !
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on January 19, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
Just had a listen and he is'nt a patch on our Joe   :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 19, 2012, 08:42:22 PM
 yes marylou hayley is very young  too ---- and perhaps you and i will be fairly old haahaa together.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on January 19, 2012, 08:43:20 PM
Just had a listen and he is'nt a patch on our Joe   :ilovejoe:
He might not be a patch on Joe singing wise, but Joe can learn a lot from Josh Groban, I mean a career like Josh, doing what he loves, that would be a dream for Joe(and fans) wouldn't it?
The problem is wanting too much I think.
Most artists that tour have a few albums under their belt, different albums which they can perform live, Joe went from one end of the scale to another. And that is not a bad thing, it just makes deciding what the fourth album will be, different, harder.
Within several popular genres it is well possible to include both uptempo and ballads whether that genre is R&B, Rock, Country etc. The problem is, where does that leave classic and Joe's classical fanbase?
Going down the all classic road isn't an option either, as Joe said himself, he is crossover.

He cannot afford to turn his back on either, I think. They could do Classic 2.0 sort of speak. Or they could do a more poppy album. Either way they have to put a lot of thought in. If they do classic 2.0 they will have to dig deeper in the music archives and try and find the songs that Joe can fully put his own twist on without people having expectations or huge prior favorite performances of that song. Because if that song is well known by a certain artist, that song will be played.
If they choose to go down a popular route they will have to put a lot of effort in to find the right type of songwriter with the right type of songs. If you want the album to sell well, it should be an album, the songs should be better when you listen to them as a whole. It should be a thoughtfully put together album, and nothing can fall out of place if that makes sense. Of course the songs should be good as stand alone song too.
I don't want to be a doomthinker, but when he chooses to do this, he will be tied to the popcharts again, so that will mean more attention from the media, which can turn out to be very problematic if the album failed to tick all those boxes. I'm not worried about Joe ticking all the boxes, he does, every single one. But you are only as strong as your weakest link.
Of course this is all my opinion and I can be very very wrong.
Personally I'd like to hear him sing songs like Big River more countryesk or Affirmations/love story/human type of pop with some powerful ballads. I liked rule the world etc too. But he needs to make a choice I think so the album has a clear direction, so noone can fault that.
Not saying this direction should be permanent, just for the album.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 19, 2012, 09:01:35 PM
Great post mihi.   :thumbsup:

I like the idea of a two CD album, Hayley :cool:

Well written and constructed songs, with radio support and a smash hit single .... see, it is easy when you say it quickly  :snigger:

One of my favourite, and maybe most surprising, performances from last year was Come Together at the charity gig, a song I have never rated before, but hearing Joe singing it transformed it. 

I also listened to DLTSGDOM from X Factor again this morning (thanks to YL) for the first time in ages and I was amazed at the energy Joe put into that performance even though he was basically standing still.

Although I melt when Joe sings TWYA, DWMF, WACIB I think he does the pop/rock thing like Human, Affirmations etc so well (although to be honest DSB has never been one of my favourites  :blush:) that I would love to hear more - but like ballads they have to really good songs if they are to be originals.

Like Mary Lou though, although originals would be nice, I am not too hung up on that aspect - there are 100's of hidden gems out there that I would love to hear Joe do justice to.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 19, 2012, 09:16:04 PM
i  dont think  joe can  just do ONE GENRE OF MUSIC  on his next album --- he has to keep ALL FANS happy -- therefore classic / poprock /  ballads/ etc will all have to be on 4th album -- joe cannot  afford to do just pop right now --- he has fans from classic and pop and will have to keep them all happy --- and his not a classical singer but crossover  classic  and he still needs to keep those fans.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on January 19, 2012, 09:23:57 PM
but you have to be very careful, if you did pop/rock, ballads and classical on the same album you would get a mishmash of songs and not really an album.
If he chose to do an album for the popcharts, he couldn't do for instance: a country ballad, an uptempo R&B song, a Rock song. That is what I meant RE. one genre ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 19, 2012, 09:30:49 PM
but you have to be very careful, if you did pop/rock, ballads and classical on the same album you would get a mishmash of songs and not really an album.
If he chose to do an album for the popcharts, he couldn't do for instance: a country ballad, an uptempo R&B song, a Rock song. That is what I meant RE. one genre ;)

totally agree. They all need to work together
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 19, 2012, 09:32:09 PM
Good posts from everyone  :thumbsup:

I think Universal Decca will have been solidly gathering a lot of information since Joe was signed. They will have seen the problem with radio play and will have assessed how they think Joe should best be marketed in the future I would think. I also think they will have been closely monitoring the reaction of the audiences to each individual song on the tour as well as taking into account which songs have been downloaded the most from the albums etc. and the fact that Joe sells a lot of physical copies. From what we understand, the big wigs who came to the Royal Festival Hall were thrilled to bits with him and they know they have not only a fantastic recording artist on their books but also a sensational live performer, and he's only 20.

I think Universal Decca and Joe all have a good idea of what the 4th album will be to please as many people as possible. I'll be happy with whatever they come up with as long as I can hear his voice properly (and there is no falsetto  :tease:  :-) ) and that a huge marketing budget has been set aside for him. 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: SpanishJoeFan on January 19, 2012, 09:46:06 PM
Ohhh very interesting conversation here!!

I agree with Hayley, the 2 CDs album would be an excelent way of covering both sides, everyone would be happy.

But I also think that the pop/rock songs have to be good. I'm not sure about covers, it is true that there are lots of good songs out there that have been forgotten and Joe would give them a new amazing life. But I don't want him to be labelled as an 'only covers' artist.

And the classic songs have to be special, not so well known, kind of a surprise for the GP. It's just my opinion.

And it have to be a round album, as Mihi said, it has to be felt as a whole.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 19, 2012, 10:55:29 PM
I like the idea of 2 CDs, not as a double album, but as 2 separate albums - a pop-leaning album and a classical-leaning album, with the classical album being a "plan B" in case the pop album doesn't do very well.  If the pop album is a success, then the classical album could be released later in the year, which would be timely if PSTOS is back on.  It would take too long to produce 24-28 songs especially with a lot of new songs.

I hope they produce an album with the intention of promoting it in America.  That straight away will mean no falsettos.  If they can't picture him singing it on an American TV show, then don't waste time recording it.

I don't think PSTOS is going to be back on this year and as Joe said he would take time out with the next album I don't think he would be rushing into releasing one album around spring then another in the summer to tie in when PSTOS would have been on the tv.

Also I don't think it would have to take *that* long to record a double album, the classical side would be full of covers, or at least mainly covers as all Classical albums generally are so it's only the more pop side of the album that would need to be worked on and recorded, the classical side could take 2 weeks like the last two albums lol.

Another thing, I don't think an album for the American market ready and waiting needs to be recorded now.  I want a killer album as we all do, but Joe has not even been with Decca a year and not quite proved himself yet, not sure he will be going to the US just yet.

Good post Sandyrose, hope your right re Decca.

I do wonder whether Affirmation and Love Story were used as testers on the album to test the waters with different styles, as Home may have also been. I think the tour was used as fedback.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 19, 2012, 11:02:39 PM
I'd like him to take a little more than two weeks on any album please :)

I was interested as to why Love Story made a return.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: marylou on January 19, 2012, 11:03:14 PM
**One of my favourite, and maybe most surprising, performances from last year was Come Together at the charity gig, a song I have never rated before, but hearing Joe singing it transformed it. 

One of mine too Carisma!! perhaps because it was the first track on the Beatles 'Abbey Road' Album released in 1969 and of course of my era!!  43 years old now and a still a brilliant track...and as you say Joe just brought it back with such panache... and even better than first time round!
He manages to sing anything with such obvious ease and make it his own :ilovejoe:!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 19, 2012, 11:09:55 PM
I'd like him to take a little more than two weeks on any album please :)

I was interested as to why Love Story made a return.

Oh no me neither, just making a point lol.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 19, 2012, 11:17:17 PM


I was interested as to why Love Story made a return.

because it's a bloo-dy good song!!!  :haha:
he was trying to tell a story during the tour. I have been trying to break the code of the songs and understand the story, but it's difficult to try and put meaning where there may not be one...  :snigger:
I thought that by the time he got to Love Story, he had sang the tale of him asking the public If You Love Me (vote for Joe on XFactor) and winning the show and all being difficult with the media (real late starter), but him always Smiling. then he parted ways with Syco (Wide Awake) but there is always hope (Don't Stop Believing) and then comes Popstar To Operastar and the public votes again and this, my friends, is a LOVE STORY. And he has Open Arms to welcome the public that drifted away back .
that's my interpretation of the tracklist on the tour.  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 19, 2012, 11:19:29 PM
mihi --- what  ONE genre  do you want on album no4?????????


 i personally think joe has to do an album with pop/ ballads / classic /  something for everyone --- and  altho it may take more thinking about  how it will all mash up together -- joe has to please everyone right now -- he cant  just have  a pop album -- he cant afford to leave his classic fans.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 19, 2012, 11:36:35 PM
I also thought of another point.  If the intention would be to release a single off the album first, what would they choose to go up against the likes of Olly Murs, JLS etc. and the like which seem to dominate the singles charts now? If the album was a mixture of pop and classical, what one song would be chosen to tell the public what the album was about? 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 20, 2012, 12:46:25 AM
 yes i see the point re a single -- what type to choose ????????? but will decca have joe release a single so far  his more of an album  artist with decca.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jlovesjoe on January 20, 2012, 02:23:14 AM
Just listened to the Josh Groban trailer SandyRose posted. Seems to me that Josh Grobans main selling point is marketed as the power of his voice, and there is no denying he has a powerful voice. However, to me he lacks the subtlety of tone and phrasing which adds imeasurably to the power and beauty of Joe's voice. I would love to hear Joe use that tremendously poweful voice in his pop songs, would love him to sing with passion and drama on his album, the way he can and does when he sings live at his gigs, and what I think was what we missed on 'Wide Awake', the album. I think back to Keyfund and Joe singing Wide Awake that night. A real tremmor went through the audience when he threw that mikestand, that's what I mean by drama, it didn't feel contrived, it seemed heartfelt, and the audience LOVED it, and it seems to be a favourite of many of us on here. I know Joe is only 20, and maybe some think we should have a more lighthearted Joe, but once again, look at his x-factor performance of DLSGDOM... filled with passion and drama, and,suddenly everyone went 'WOW', the boy grew up before our eyes!. There has GOT to be a market in the pop world for someone who can move audiences like that! After all, look at Adele! So...what I am trying to say is that, although very many people love his PSTOS stuff..and I am certainly one of them, millions voted for him on x-factor and most of them never got to hear him sing Affirmation or Love Story and I wonder what those people would make of that!! I'm willing to bet they would have LOVED it!! Also, some of the most popular tracks on Classic, like the wonderful Solitaire, TWYA and DWMF would have fitted in fine on a pop album. So although I never want Joe to give up singing his beautiful classical arias, I can see no reason why he has to limit himself, even in the confines of the same album...Just remember Bents Park..a real mixed crowd..many many young people...and Nessun Dorma!!. Lastly, going back to Josh Groban, give Joe a BIG band/orchestra, a big sound.. My God, he's worth it!! :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 20, 2012, 03:35:04 AM
jlovesjoe ------ you are right  going back to nessan dorma at bents park -- it stole the show ---- i think great if album wass like bents park or tour --- a bit of everrything for everyone .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 20, 2012, 07:41:20 AM
jlovesjoe - that is exactly how I feel - about Josh Groban and particularly about Joe.

I really think Joe's very best genre is in ballads and pop/rock - and that there are millions of XF voters who didn't really get this. A little dabble in classical crossover every now and then to prove his versatility is all well and good but there are quite a lot of artists in the same field doing a good job even if I don't like their tone quality as much as Joe's. But there's no-one to match Joe in poip/rock.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 20, 2012, 07:45:59 AM
jlovesjoe...  :goodpost:
You said it the way I think. The reason why I would like a pop/rock album is because he can then fit big songs such as to where you are and solitaire in it. And let's not forget: Dance With My Father.
A classical album would mean that he would have the arias, and although I love him singing these, he really needs to train to sing more of them. There is a reason why classical singers train for so many years. Although Joe is talented, he was told: there is so much he could do with his voice if he was to train. IF is the key word.
The arrangements on Classic meant that those ballads had a classical twist, but they are big ballads that fit in a pop/rock album easily.
It all depends on the arrangement.
So I really stand by my choice and my wish would be for a pop/rock album next. with uptempo songs, and big lush ballads as he knows how to do.

not that I will give up on Joe if he doesn't do that, of course  :D

EDIT: telepathic powers, Jude. we type that at the same time...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on January 20, 2012, 07:51:20 AM
mihi --- what  ONE genre  do you want on album no4?????????


 i personally think joe has to do an album with pop/ ballads / classic /  something for everyone --- and  altho it may take more thinking about  how it will all mash up together -- joe has to please everyone right now -- he cant  just have  a pop album -- he cant afford to leave his classic fans.
You misread me, he cannot leave his classic fans behind, but I don't think classical music will fit in with uptempo pop. IF he decides to do a whole pop album I think he has to stay with one genre, he can do ballads,uptempo and midtempo within that genre. But I don't think the album will sound completed, when it is a mishmash of country/R&B/Pop/rock/hiphop and name all the other genres.
I personally don't mind what type of genre he would pick, as long as all the tracks on the album blend i together and sound as a whole. And of course the genre doesn't limit Joes voice.

On a separate thought, what he could do. I have seen some artists do it. They'd record 12 tracks for the main album and those tracks all fit together, make a complete album. And then they add 4-6 tracks that do not really fit with the overall genre of the album, mostly acoustics, live songs or duets. If Joe did something like that it might work well.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 20, 2012, 08:04:48 AM
Really good post jlovesjoe  :goodpost:

I agree about the power of Joe's voice and I love nothing more than hearing his voice soaring regardless of what he is actually singing.  I think that is one of the problems with some of the pop songs on WA - they don't do Joe's voice justice rather than anything being wrong with the song (even leaving aside the production)

I remember saying when Olly released Please Don't Let Me Go, that although it was catchy it would never have suited Joe, that his voice was too strong for it, and I think that of some of the songs on WA.

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 20, 2012, 08:12:57 AM
I'm enjoying the really interesting comments from everyone on this thread and agree with a lot that everyone has said.  :thumbsup:

I actually think that Joe should just be an album artist as Trudy said and leave the singles chart battles to the manoeverings and manipulations of others. It would never be a fair fight for Joe anyway.

Regarding the album being pop/rock, I loved Affirmation and I would be all for stuff like that being included on the album along with massive pop ballads with high drama.

The only thing I would say is that I went to quite a few concerts and I think it was the classical stuff that got the most standing ovations and the loudest cheers from the entire audience whatever age they were. Also at each venue I got talking to the people behind me before the show began, basically to apologise in advance for standing up through the dancy numbers. A lot of those people I talked to had found Joe through PSTOS and had booked to see him on the strength of the stuff he sang on that show. They loved the concert but I fear that if album number 4 doesn't continue to appeal to those people they may drift away so I think it has to include some classical given the Joe treatment as well as pop/rock.

Another thing that occurred to me is if the album is a mixture, it will widen the marketing and promotion opportunities for the kind of shows where Joe could be invited to perform.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 20, 2012, 08:22:15 AM
Yeah! Carisma, when I got Wide Awake, I made my flatmate listen to a few songs as she didn't have a TV and only heard Joe by his  name and on newspapers/gossip papers talking about xfactor at the time. But I remember telling her that the album wasn't reflecting his voice and that he was better than he sounded on the album, as they tappered with his voice when the way they didn't need to.


on the subject of the classical stuff leading to standing ovations: they always do whenever they are sung right. Because they are powerful pieces of music. The music and the long and high notes talk to some people. They are impressive to listen to and they bring up emotion. They amaze because of we know that it is difficult to sing them.
I don't think the people who liked those would totally drift away if Joe was to sing pop ballads. Solitaire, To Where You Are, She Was Beautiful: this type of ballads would still appeal to them.

when i say classical, I mean the arias. And I definitely think he can do well without them on the next album (or include 1 that he can twist A La McElderry, as a bonus track)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 20, 2012, 08:45:25 AM
 :goodpost: JlovesJoe. I agree, also agree with Sandyrose, I think Joe needs to fully reel his Pstos fans in before pretty much leaving the arias behind. I understand what you are saying Sandypandy but some of the people who bought Classic & went to the tour had not a pop album in years & only listen to classical, them fans could drift away & I don't think Joe can afford to loose them.

If think Joe needs to do 1 more mixed album of classical stuff, ballads & hopefully it bit of pop/rock to re-introduces that style before branching out again.

I don't think we are going to get a pure pop album anyways, just my opinion.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on January 20, 2012, 08:54:40 AM
Just listened to the Josh Groban trailer SandyRose posted. Seems to me that Josh Grobans main selling point is marketed as the power of his voice, and there is no denying he has a powerful voice. However, to me he lacks the subtlety of tone and phrasing which adds imeasurably to the power and beauty of Joe's voice. I would love to hear Joe use that tremendously poweful voice in his pop songs, would love him to sing with passion and drama on his album, the way he can and does when he sings live at his gigs, and what I think was what we missed on 'Wide Awake', the album. I think back to Keyfund and Joe singing Wide Awake that night. A real tremmor went through the audience when he threw that mikestand, that's what I mean by drama, it didn't feel contrived, it seemed heartfelt, and the audience LOVED it, and it seems to be a favourite of many of us on here. I know Joe is only 20, and maybe some think we should have a more lighthearted Joe, but once again, look at his x-factor performance of DLSGDOM... filled with passion and drama, and,suddenly everyone went 'WOW', the boy grew up before our eyes!. There has GOT to be a market in the pop world for someone who can move audiences like that! After all, look at Adele! So...what I am trying to say is that, although very many people love his PSTOS stuff..and I am certainly one of them, millions voted for him on x-factor and most of them never got to hear him sing Affirmation or Love Story and I wonder what those people would make of that!! I'm willing to bet they would have LOVED it!! Also, some of the most popular tracks on Classic, like the wonderful Solitaire, TWYA and DWMF would have fitted in fine on a pop album. So although I never want Joe to give up singing his beautiful classical arias, I can see no reason why he has to limit himself, even in the confines of the same album...Just remember Bents Park..a real mixed crowd..many many young people...and Nessun Dorma!!. Lastly, going back to Josh Groban, give Joe a BIG band/orchestra, a big sound.. My God, he's worth it!! :ilovejoe:

 :goodpost: I think Joe's only problem is his versatility (can't believe I'm suggesting that is a problem!!) - he can practically sing anything, and sing it extraordinary well  - so it will be tough to choose just one direction.  (I loved DHFC on the CC album - so big band works so well with his voice too)  I only worry that if he moves away from his classical style he will back amongst the 'pop chart' mayhem and won't be given a real chance.  Even with the most beautifully written and sung songs he will need serious airplay and exposure to succeed. (sorry to sound glum - hopefully Decca would have something up their sleeve to combat that??).

Here is an odd suggestion - which if done well could be amazing and I will try and find links.  Keane released a rock song called Bedshaped - I also have the italian version sung by Vittorio Grigolo called Cosi' - I love the lyrics and music and the italian, classical slant would be immense.  I personally love this idea as I adore Joe's version of MHWGO - he rolls his 'r's' beautifully and then bursts into English at the end in a crescendo - bliss!! :-)

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 20, 2012, 08:54:51 AM
He will lose some if he gives up on pop straight away as well. So they have to see where he wants to go and what he wants to sing. And where he will gain more fans. Still stand by pop.  :haha:
It will be so nice to read all this back when we have the album at last  ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on January 20, 2012, 09:02:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KRRcNqF85A


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trlI2H7858

Really not sure if these will work - I'm such a technophobe.  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 20, 2012, 09:08:32 AM
Can you try the second one again - the url doesn't seem right?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on January 20, 2012, 09:09:27 AM
Will do!! Here goes! :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on January 20, 2012, 09:15:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPN_1r5NQyE


I found a new link for the song - but have just seen a snippet of the video - not sure now - would scare lots of children!!! Still love it but not sure it would be right for Joe - far too depressing.

However, what I had really wanted to say was that a mix of Italian/English on a strong song with soaring vocals would be fab!! (not asking much of Joe really!!!! Bless him!!)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 20, 2012, 09:27:27 AM
If it were anyone else maybe it would be asking too much, but not for Joe  :ilovejoe:

(will have a look at the vids later - supposed to be getting on with housework  :dusting:  :glum: )
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 20, 2012, 09:31:02 AM
Can't watch the vids on my phone so will look at them later.

Just wanted to agree with SandyR tho - I think Joe should forget about the singles chart for the time being at least and concentrate on album only
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mr wombat on January 20, 2012, 10:19:57 AM
If he's prepared to be generous with the number of songs, say 14, then he can please everyone.  One group likes pop and easy listening (including ballads and jazz).  The other group likes classical and easy listening.  If the album starts with pop, goes through easy listening and ends up with classical, then the pop people would listen to songs 1 - 10 and the classical people would listen to songs 5 - 14.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on January 20, 2012, 10:39:58 AM
I think really it depends on what Decca want to do with Joe rather than what Joe really wants to do which I believe would be a soft rock album.  Joe is now though aware of his current audience so will go with Decca's suggestions which are likely to be imo classic/crossover, unless they hand Joe over fully to Universal and then there could be more choice.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 20, 2012, 11:08:03 AM
they don't need to hand him over to Universal as such. If you look at Decca, one of their website says: The home of diverse music. They have sections for all types of music:

http://www.decca.com/

Classical
Jazz
Pop & Rock
Americana
World & Folk
Nostalgia
Soundtrack
Royal Wedding (they even have this!!!  :D )

so it's a really good thing that Joe is with them. He can choose the direction of the next album with them.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on January 20, 2012, 11:15:03 AM
Good we can but wait and see :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 20, 2012, 11:16:37 AM
Good we can but wait and see :)

:sigh:
yep
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Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on January 20, 2012, 11:32:28 AM
I feel Joe should stick to pop ballards/classic songs.  These show off Joe's wonderful voice and I love how he performs them, so much emotion.  He needs original material perhaps Joe could write another 'Angels' who knows??

There are so many artist that sound the same, Joe is an original  :ten: and his music should reflect this.

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on January 20, 2012, 11:53:41 AM
Was having a trawl on YT last night and got all excited when I found a video with the title, Joe Mcelderry and Angels. How sad I was when it was Robbie singing and not Joe. I would just die with happiness if Joe did sing this.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jlovesjoe on January 20, 2012, 12:22:55 PM
Did a bit of you-tubing last night and listened to Josh Groban sing SOOML. Anyone who tries to tell me that Josh is far superior vocally to Joe (my sister my sister for instance) needs to listen to Joe on X- factor...before any vocal coaching on PSTOS had taken place. I say no more!. Also, see if you can find a song sung by Josh Groban called 'Broken Vows', (I wish I could upload it for you, but no know how to do!) Now, try and imagine Joe singing this....and weep!. I think the reason Joe reduces  us to tears on lots of the classical stuff is because of the high emotion and the soaring notes, but I really feel a song such as this would have the same effect on gazillions of people. You may say that Joe is a little young for the lyrics of this song, and perhaps he is, but I can't help feeling that Joe has the musical 'cojones' to pull it off. Either way, this is the 'sort' of ballad that I feel even people who fell for him on PSTOS would be just as happy with. Lets face it, any purist classical lovers are probably not Joe's audience anyway. I agree with SandyPandy, more classical training would be advisable were he to go down that route. Joe's voice IS so unique, maybe too much structure in his voice would take that uniqueness away somewhat. After all, Josh Groban is said to be classically trained, and in my humble opinion....it shows. I adore the way Joe's voice just naturally flows, it's so instinctive...so beatiful. I really do believe that Joe has the ability to win over his PSTOS audience, just give him the right songs, enough exposure and how could he fail!  Well, as darling Trudy always says, just my opinion! :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 20, 2012, 12:28:55 PM
broken vow - Josh Groban

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZaKZRWHfZU
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 20, 2012, 12:32:13 PM
see, that's what I mean.
People who discovered or rediscovered Joe on PSTOS would like him sing this style. And he doesn't need to put on his classical breathing/singing on this. He can use his pop voice and make it a huge pop ballad.
Not this particular song especially, but I hope you see what I mean.

I really like this. Josh's voice is a bit too deep for me. I wouldn't listen to a whole album in one go I think, but what a voice. Maybe we would compare Jai to him, more than Joe (in my opinion)

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 20, 2012, 12:51:24 PM
 good post sandyrose / hayley  :goodpost:--- as i said before joe will be a  album artist --- he wont be a singles artist -------- radio doesnt play joe so he cant be a singles artists-- as he needs airplay for that ---- also joe  doesnt have to  just have arias on album --- but he needs  at least a couple of classic crossover  on album to  keep his  fans  who kept him  popular  on  and after PSTOS ---- joe can have also pop/ soft rock/  ballads on his album too --- as we have said a bit of everything to suit ALL FANS taste ---- joe has to keep his fans who like  classic crossover/ ballads  too / he cannot just do  soft rock/ pop  album --- sndypandy ------- he will lose  fans  he gained from PSTOS -------- and well all be sad when  albumWITH ONLY POP/ ROCK  flops with no airplay ----- joe cannot abandon his classic fans ----- he doesnt need to abandon pop/ rock either --- he just has to  combine the musical genres  he has sung and recorded previously  on other albums. etc ------- and agree mihi  the suggestion of extra songs added would be fab too. but joe cannot just go make a pop/ rock album and abandon half his fans who like to hear joes voice on ballads/ classics ( not arias -- just some crossover)  joe cant afford to  do a pop/ rock album --- and i dont beleive thats what joe wants either --- joe knows  that his popular album in sales was CLASSIC -- and he will still keep those songs on album4 ---- and so will decca. i wasnt one who wanted PSTOS at first but  once  joe won and did well with classic --- i can see this is popular for joe and gained fans joe cant lose im afraid. i too love human / affirmation etc ----- and would love an album with those pop/ rock too --- but im scared  it will flop for joe  like WA did ------ and id prefer a more popular joe album  more like classic  with a bit of pop/ ballad added ------ and i beleive thats what decca and joe will do  on album4 -- with maybe a  joe co written song maybe as joe wants to write some originals. good luck to joe and decca they have a hard job  with album 4.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jlovesjoe on January 20, 2012, 01:17:07 PM
Great, Sandy..thats the one!!.(Note to self.. must learn to do these things!) Thank you for doing that. Just thinking about my previous post. When I said JG's classical training showed, I didn't mean in a good way. Something about the phrasing and where he 'puts the notes'(eh!!) seems contrived, whereas with Joe, he seems to speak directly to the emotion of the music. Wish I could put what I feel into better words that made more sense, but it is just such a 'gut' feeling. I find with Josh, it's all much too 'deliberate'. Not knocking Josh,by the way, I don't take away from his obvious talent, but..he just ain't Joe.!! :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 20, 2012, 01:24:01 PM
jlovesjoe: for videos, just select the web adress on the top of the screen, copy and then paste it on your post.
easy peasy. (do you know how to do copy & paste??)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 20, 2012, 02:36:21 PM
There's some instructions somewhere - probably down the bottom of the boards in the instructions section ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Pam on January 20, 2012, 03:13:53 PM
seem to remember I had a few lessons in that, gave you all a few grey hairs.  :blush1:  Sorry not been around much hope everyone ok. :wave:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 20, 2012, 04:06:02 PM
But you got there in the end - a star pupil  :ten:  :wave:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 20, 2012, 06:48:59 PM
I would love to hear Joe sing this song  (with that band and especially that drummer!!  if we couldn't have the tour band :)  )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vcqZwhqA4E



(Hi Pam!  :wave:  )
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on January 20, 2012, 06:54:53 PM
Are there any articles where he mentions song writing for the next album? I know it's mentioned in the tour program and he's mentioned it in a few interviews.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 20, 2012, 07:41:16 PM
He will lose some if he gives up on pop straight away as well. So they have to see where he wants to go and what he wants to sing. And where he will gain more fans. Still stand by pop.  :haha:
It will be so nice to read all this back when we have the album at last  ;)

Yep, but which album sold more and what went down better on tour?  Sorry but classical wins everytime at the moment, I think Joe would loose more fans by turning his back on classical than pop.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 20, 2012, 08:01:00 PM
There are many factors involved though.

We all know the reasons why Wide Awake didn't do as well as hoped. Fix those problems (airplay may still be an issue) and who's to say it wouldn't be as popular as Classic.

The tour was promoted in the quality press and many of the venues were traditional Classical venues. Plus the classic songs are big "wow" numbers. They're always going to get a bigger reaction than a pop song. From a personal point of view it's songs like Solitaire, Home and Love Story that get me emotional just as often, if not more than Time To Say Goodbye and To Where You Are.

However, I think it's highly unlikely he will revert to pop entirely, given the success of Classic.

What I do want for him though is respect. He is not going to get that in the classical world without more training - and there isn't any sign of that at the moment; on one interview he said he didn't have any coaching for Classic Christmas except for the Latin?  :shock1:

And he's not going to get respect in the pop world without original material including preferably, some of his own.

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: tinabee on January 20, 2012, 08:02:04 PM
Have to say iv'e listened to a few Josh Groban songs now and I don't know the technical terms but he sounds flat to me, the tone to his voice is one dimensional if you know what I mean. I honestly think Joe's voice is 100% better and Joe is 100% prettier to look at too.  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 20, 2012, 08:17:06 PM
Have to say iv'e listened to a few Josh Groban songs now and I don't know the technical terms but he sounds flat to me, the tone to his voice is one dimensional if you know what I mean. I honestly think Joe's voice is 100% better and Joe is 100% prettier to look at too.  :ilovejoe:

No one will surpass Joe for me  :ilovejoe:  :-)   but I'm interested in the type of songs that Josh Groban sings, how Joe would interpret them, whether they would suit his voice or not and whether that kind of song would fit with a pop/rock classical crossover album really under the heading of big ballads because Josh Groban is enormously successful with what he does.

I was having a look this evening on the Classical Crossover UK site and they have various youtube tasters. I was amazed at what they consider to be classical crossover. There were the usual ones I expected but they also included songs like Michael Jackson's 'Earth Song' and 'Annie's Song' was there as well. There was even a Queen song on one of them.   :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on January 20, 2012, 08:17:54 PM
I wonder if he's still thinking about going ahead with this collab with a rapper.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on January 20, 2012, 08:21:34 PM
In terms of pop on a classic album, something like this would be a good thing to include on the album. This is a Dutch pop/rock group doing a duet with a classically trained pianist. Crossover could work both ways, so classical songs more 'poppy' (for the lack of a better word) and pop/rock songs more classical...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABnenFaaj5w&ob=av2n
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 20, 2012, 08:28:47 PM
In terms of pop on a classic album, something like this would be a good thing to include on the album. This is a Dutch pop/rock group doing a duet with a classically trained pianist. Crossover could work both ways, so classical songs more 'poppy' (for the lack of a better word) and pop/rock songs more classical...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABnenFaaj5w&ob=av2n

Thanks for the link mihi  :thumbsup:  I actually love the concept of that. Not keen on the singer's voice but I can imagine that sounding stunning with Joe singing it.  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on January 20, 2012, 08:43:22 PM
In terms of pop on a classic album, something like this would be a good thing to include on the album. This is a Dutch pop/rock group doing a duet with a classically trained pianist. Crossover could work both ways, so classical songs more 'poppy' (for the lack of a better word) and pop/rock songs more classical...


Thanks for the link mihi  :thumbsup:  I actually love the concept of that. Not keen on the singer's voice but I can imagine that sounding stunning with Joe singing it.  :hurrah:
used to have such a crush on him when I was younger :lol: but I love the pianist, think he is one of the best classical composers from the Netherlands atm. But I really fell in love with this concept, rock and classical, think it would suit Joe and Joe fans ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 20, 2012, 08:45:32 PM
In terms of pop on a classic album, something like this would be a good thing to include on the album. This is a Dutch pop/rock group doing a duet with a classically trained pianist. Crossover could work both ways, so classical songs more 'poppy' (for the lack of a better word) and pop/rock songs more classical...


Thanks for the link mihi  :thumbsup:  I actually love the concept of that. Not keen on the singer's voice but I can imagine that sounding stunning with Joe singing it.  :hurrah:
used to have such a crush on him when I was younger :lol: but I love the pianist, think he is one of the best classical composers from the Netherlands atm. But I really fell in love with this concept, rock and classical, think it would suit Joe and Joe fans ;)

I'd be really interested to hear more examples of this concept if you can think of any mihi  :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on January 20, 2012, 08:47:40 PM
I am catching up at the moment, so I will post my thoughts about it later.

But for now I want this 4th album to be an album with half classical cross-over songs and half big epic ballads, with 2 bonus rock uptempo songs. :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on January 20, 2012, 08:49:24 PM
In terms of pop on a classic album, something like this would be a good thing to include on the album. This is a Dutch pop/rock group doing a duet with a classically trained pianist. Crossover could work both ways, so classical songs more 'poppy' (for the lack of a better word) and pop/rock songs more classical...


Thanks for the link mihi  :thumbsup:  I actually love the concept of that. Not keen on the singer's voice but I can imagine that sounding stunning with Joe singing it.  :hurrah:
used to have such a crush on him when I was younger :lol: but I love the pianist, think he is one of the best classical composers from the Netherlands atm. But I really fell in love with this concept, rock and classical, think it would suit Joe and Joe fans ;)

I'd be really interested to hear more examples of this concept if you can think of any mihi  :)
Will try to think of some more ;) I know there are more, but I cannot think of song titles :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: SpanishJoeFan on January 20, 2012, 08:52:24 PM
Mihi, thank you for the link, really interesting! I like it!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on January 20, 2012, 08:57:32 PM
I like this concept too Mihi.  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 20, 2012, 09:02:33 PM
There are many factors involved though.

We all know the reasons why Wide Awake didn't do as well as hoped. Fix those problems (airplay may still be an issue) and who's to say it wouldn't be as popular as Classic.

The tour was promoted in the quality press and many of the venues were traditional Classical venues. Plus the classic songs are big "wow" numbers. They're always going to get a bigger reaction than a pop song. From a personal point of view it's songs like Solitaire, Home and Love Story that get me emotional just as often, if not more than Time To Say Goodbye and To Where You Are.

However, I think it's highly unlikely he will revert to pop entirely, given the success of Classic.

What I do want for him though is respect. He is not going to get that in the classical world without more training - and there isn't any sign of that at the moment; on one interview he said he didn't have any coaching for Classic Christmas except for the Latin?  :shock1:

And he's not going to get respect in the pop world without original material including preferably, some of his own.

True, I do agree.  But trust me ALOT of people who went on the tour went because they wanted to him him sing the aria's.  I think he needs to reference it on at least one more album to keep them sweet and bring them along with him.  I just can't see him coming back with a big pop album album, not yet.

It is a hard call and I'm not saying this because "I" want Joe to classical music, it really is not my thing in general.  I am not thinking about what we as *dedicated* fans want from Joe on an album or what we like most.  This is about what the general public want and to me I see alot of fans who have discovered Joe through PSTOS and I fear Joe would loose alot of these fans if he didn't bother with classical songs anymore.  I would love Joe to do some pop songs and yes I think some of his PSTOS fans would love songs like Solitaire, TWYA etc but I don't think they all would.

Let's face it it's going to be tough for Joe to have respect or credibility in either genre of music.

I don't know what the future holds and I'm not sure whether Joe would want to, or will continue do classical music and no I do not think he will get training.  I just think he needs to establish himself and his fanbase a little more before branching out into a certain direction and hopefully dragging all those fans he has got with him.

I feel like I'm chasing my tail a bit now, sure you all know my opinion now.  Will try to shut up lol.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 20, 2012, 09:21:46 PM
tacom -- think your idea  of half classic/ half pop ballads / with a bit  of pop rock  too/ is  exactly what  i have been saying too -- we have to have  som ething for ALL FANS -- and  joe and decca have to make it work hopefully -- cos joe needs  to make all fans happy.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mr wombat on January 20, 2012, 09:37:23 PM
That's like a recital song - a singer with one dominant instrument, normally a piano.  "Va Pensiero" starts off as a recital song.  "She Was Beautiful" is another one but with a guitar.

When I first heard Joe sing, I thought his voice would sound good with a single instrument - a "duet" with one instrument, with perhaps a light dusting of other instruments in the background.   
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 20, 2012, 09:43:59 PM
Me too. He doesn't need the big over the top cliched accompaniment because he has the voice to do it all by himself.

 
Let's face it it's going to be tough for Joe to have respect or credibility in either genre of music.

But why?? That really upsets me that the most talented singer of his generation (in my opinion) can't have respect.

(Can't listen to the videos at the moment as hubby playing his games and needs the bandwidth but very interested and will be there soon ;) )

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 20, 2012, 10:29:14 PM
Me too. He doesn't need the big over the top cliched accompaniment because he has the voice to do it all by himself.

 
Let's face it it's going to be tough for Joe to have respect or credibility in either genre of music.

But why?? That really upsets me that the most talented singer of his generation (in my opinion) can't have respect.

(Can't listen to the videos at the moment as hubby playing his games and needs the bandwidth but very interested and will be there soon ;) )

Oh well you won't find me disagreeing on this one Jude, just sadly the way it is in the moment.  Hopefully one day that won't be the case.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on January 20, 2012, 11:32:17 PM
 :unsure:  I am so confused, I honestly don't know which way Joe should go with next album, I read one post and think I totally agree with it, then read another and think that persons got a point. I know what I like best, that is classic and from the sales that would indicate that is what other people have wanted, but then I'm thinking Joe is only 20 and don't want him to be turned into some 20 going on middle aged crooner. 

Have to say I have been quiet on here tonight thinking about this and have tied myself in a knot. I'm just unbelievably happy that there is going to be a fourth album.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 20, 2012, 11:53:18 PM
milliesmum  -- its got to be a bit of everything joe does  really -- his got  to keep fans happy.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on January 21, 2012, 12:14:45 AM
milliesmum  -- its got to be a bit of everything joe does  really -- his got  to keep fans happy.
Agree, got to do that and gain a whole load more by it being the correct mix of songs, good promotion and hopefully airplay. 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on January 21, 2012, 12:19:31 AM
Off to bed now, hope I can switch off and sleep, work tomorrow 7 till 12.  Night night.x
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: orchid on January 21, 2012, 12:27:48 AM
:unsure:  I am so confused, I honestly don't know which way Joe should go with next album, I read one post and think I totally agree with it, then read another and think that persons got a point. I know what I like best, that is classic and from the sales that would indicate that is what other people have wanted, but then I'm thinking Joe is only 20 and don't want him to be turned into some 20 going on middle aged crooner. 

Have to say I have been quiet on here tonight thinking about this and have tied myself in a knot. I'm just unbelievably happy that there is going to be a fourth album.

Neither do I,  so I hope Decca use all their vast experience and expertise and make sure this doesn't happen to Joe.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 21, 2012, 12:40:12 AM
whatever joes album -- im sure it will be great ---- see joe on tour he isnt a crooner -- he just sings a mix of both classic/ pop ballads/ pop rock / it something for everyone -- and thats what joe needs / i think joes an album artist tho-- not a pop singles typed pop singer tho  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 21, 2012, 10:18:03 AM
I'm thinking Joe is only 20 and don't want him to be turned into some 20 going on middle aged crooner. 

This hits the nail on the head for me. There is a big danger of this in my opinion. Joe's appearance on Songs of Praise for example will have cemented that kind of impression of him. He is capable of so much more than that.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 21, 2012, 10:36:36 AM
I'm thinking Joe is only 20 and don't want him to be turned into some 20 going on middle aged crooner. 

This hits the nail on the head for me. There is a big danger of this in my opinion. Joe's appearance on Songs of Praise for example will have cemented that kind of impression of him. He is capable of so much more than that.

DO you mean Joe's appearance on Songs of Praise in general Jude, or specifically Joe's performance/song choices on Songs of Praise?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 21, 2012, 10:42:00 AM
The latter - the production of it too.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 21, 2012, 10:49:53 AM
The latter - the production of it too.

Thanks Jude, I just wondered as Alexandra appeared on Songs of Praise the following week and there was almost universal praise for her.

Although CC gave Joe a great platform to appear in many of the places he did over Christmas I too worry that some of the carols especially, would leave that kind of impression.  I can't really say too much about the production though as it is not something I know a great deal about.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on January 21, 2012, 11:36:25 AM
When Joe won XF I was very excited to hear his first single/album. When I heard Ambitions I was very disapointed, I thought were is my Joe's wonderful voice, they have lost it. I did not buy Wide Awake because of this.  Then SWMU was released, this was a bit better, loved the video, Joe all wet. Since then I have down loaded some songs from it, love Wide Awake, this should have been the single, and Smile, Superman. I feel this album lost Joe a lot of this XF fans, this was not the type of music they were used to hearing him sing. Good on him for trying something different, but if I had to buy any of Joe's albums it would be classic.  It has pop ballards and classic songs wonderful.

It is very hard to please all the people all of the time. From watching video's of the tour, I felt there was a good balance of rock, pop ballads and classical songs. A mixed album I agree is the way to go.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jlovesjoe on January 21, 2012, 11:44:18 AM
See, I can see exactly where you'r both coming from Milliesmum and Jude. This is why I have such a strong desire for Joe to take on stronger and more 'dramatically' emotional ballads. Not all the time, obviously, there is always room for the clever,gentle way Joe has with a lyric,which wouldn't make him 'crooneresque'( I know, no such word!). But I think that Joe has a very sexy and mature side to him when singing anything that brings that out, like 'Sorry seems to be the hardest word' or 'Open Arms' or the fantastic 'Wide Awake'. This is what I'd like him to build on. We've all seen him in this mood, but I know thats not the perception the GP have about him. Maybe he lost this with his first album, the production, not the songs necessarily, as I think there were some terrific, strong songs on there,UTSRO anybody?. Is it too late for Joe to turn on the sex appeal which I have always thought he has by the barrel load?. I dont mean overtly sexy or raunchy, that's just not Joe, and I would hate it, but Joe has a very sensual side and can smoulder with the best of them. He would still be able to thrill us with his more classical songs, as I agree with Hayley that he needs to keep those people who fell for him on PSTOS on board, but we don't want to loose that side of Joe either. There is no reason that another pop album should in any way resemble 'Wide Awake', 'Pop' covers an enormous range. Between 'Wide Awake' and 'Classic' there is a huge middle ground. The way I see Joe musically is as a strong emotional singer who tugs at your heartstrings, but has the capacity to equally affect whole other parts of your 'anatomy'!!. Or am I being dillusional?. But that's how I feel....go figure.!!. Can I just say to Jude, that when I wanted a bigger sound for Joe, I was meaning on some of his pop. I thought the classical number JG sang on the previous video was not good with all that noise. For Joe, with anything like that, Joe , and instrument would be enough. Oh! it's a complicated minefield, and we don't even have to sort it out!!.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on January 21, 2012, 01:05:31 PM
 :goodpost: and yes thank goodness someone else is going to be making the decisions.......  :cool:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 21, 2012, 02:15:56 PM
personally i feel as long as joe makes a great album with something for everyone that the  tour gave us - the album should be fabulous --- i dont think decca would  have a album with bad production like WA anyway -- so im hoping joe and decca sort out songs to suit all his different fans .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on January 21, 2012, 02:39:07 PM
I think Joe realises what his fans want to hear from him and i'm sure album no4 will reflect this, something that will please everyone. :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 21, 2012, 02:47:02 PM
I think Joe realises what his fans want to hear from him and i'm sure album no4 will reflect this, something that will please everyone. :ilovejoe:

Well good luck with that Joe .... as most of the fans opinion is pretty divided with what we want to hear  :rofl2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 21, 2012, 02:53:25 PM
yes joe will need luck carisma --- the fans  have varied taste --- but the tour did give something for everyone --- that got it soooo right ------ now for the album to suit all fans taste .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: louisew on January 21, 2012, 04:53:51 PM
For me - pop/rock and some acoustics please. Loved the big band/jazzy sound of DHFC so some of that too please!!! (Joe has said this was his fav on CC so I am hopeful!!). Classic lovers will buy the album and once they have heard Joe's voice they will be so moved by it they will be converted (in my humble opinion of course!!). Pop lovers will love it anyway. Result - everyone will be very happy!! and Joe doesn't have to be a 20 year old middle aged crooner after all!!      :-)    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 21, 2012, 05:03:59 PM
think we joe fans who loved him from xf  would all love some accoustics and some soft rock pop too ---- not too sure about the classic fans ---- some of them who only came along from PSTOS were  waiting for the classiics  on tour -- and on tour joe delivered the classics aswell as the pop/ soft rock and ballads / i really hope he can satisfy all tastes in music as he did on tour --- thats my biggest wish --- that joe can  make all fans happy as his music is quite diverse.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 21, 2012, 06:46:06 PM
The marketing strategy is going to have to be taken into account as well. If Joe has pop songs on his album do we think he will be invited to perform any of them on something like T4 On The Beach (or whatever it's called  :-) ) or on any of the summer pop festivals alongside rappers and stuff?  If the marketing is going to have to be concentrated on TV appearances, what kind of songs will appeal to all demographics.

If the idea is to not only appeal to existing fans of Wide Awake and Classic but to also draw in new fans, what is most likely to do that? 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on January 21, 2012, 07:29:32 PM
When Joe won XF I was very excited to hear his first single/album. When I heard Ambitions I was very disapointed, I thought were is my Joe's wonderful voice, they have lost it. I did not buy Wide Awake because of this.  Then SWMU was released, this was a bit better, loved the video, Joe all wet. Since then I have down loaded some songs from it, love Wide Awake, this should have been the single, and Smile, Superman. I feel this album lost Joe a lot of this XF fans, this was not the type of music they were used to hearing him sing. Good on him for trying something different, but if I had to buy any of Joe's albums it would be classic.  It has pop ballards and classic songs wonderful.

It is very hard to please all the people all of the time. From watching video's of the tour, I felt there was a good balance of rock, pop ballads and classical songs. A mixed album I agree is the way to go.

Agree with the first part of your post, I thought exactly the same when I first listened to the album, although now it's really grown on me and I listen to it all the time. Would like soft rock/pop  and ballads.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 21, 2012, 07:48:11 PM
The marketing strategy is going to have to be taken into account as well. If Joe has pop songs on his album do we think he will be invited to perform any of them on something like T4 On The Beach (or whatever it's called  :-) ) or on any of the summer pop festivals alongside rappers and stuff?  If the marketing is going to have to be concentrated on TV appearances, what kind of songs will appeal to all demographics.

If the idea is to not only appeal to existing fans of Wide Awake and Classic but to also draw in new fans, what is most likely to do that?

i think pop is most likely to draw new fans. Not the classic stuff. But it will have to be a really good song that shows off his voice too. With pop, he is most likely to be played on the radio and appear on prime time tv, hence new fans and more buyers for his album.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 21, 2012, 08:15:12 PM
I think Joe realises what his fans want to hear from him and i'm sure album no4 will reflect this, something that will please everyone. :ilovejoe:

Well good luck with that Joe .... as most of the fans opinion is pretty divided with what we want to hear  :rofl2:

Last time I checked the voting for our favourite recorded Joe songs it was a fairly mixed bag with both Wide Awake and Classic songs, still really think he needs to do a mix for the moment, but agree it is very hard to please everyone and get that right mix.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 21, 2012, 08:17:22 PM
The marketing strategy is going to have to be taken into account as well. If Joe has pop songs on his album do we think he will be invited to perform any of them on something like T4 On The Beach (or whatever it's called  :-) ) or on any of the summer pop festivals alongside rappers and stuff?  If the marketing is going to have to be concentrated on TV appearances, what kind of songs will appeal to all demographics.

If the idea is to not only appeal to existing fans of Wide Awake and Classic but to also draw in new fans, what is most likely to do that?

i think pop is most likely to draw new fans. Not the classic stuff. But it will have to be a really good song that shows off his voice too. With pop, he is most likely to be played on the radio and appear on prime time tv, hence new fans and more buyers for his album.

But regardless of how good Joe's music is, will the radio stations not play it because it's Joe McElderry?  I'm not sure, but Joe has never had good airplay, Wide Awake or Classic.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 21, 2012, 08:23:52 PM
No, I don't think there is such a big conspiracy against Joe on radio.
If the song is good, and it is his voice on it, and they haven't changed it into a robot voice, then there is no reason why they wouldn't play it if the label does a good promo for it.
I may be proven wrong, but I think the radios will play him. It has to be some kind of acoustic version. Look at Adele! why was she on the radio every 5 seconds? Good voice, good lyrics and no gimmicks with the music. pure vocals & pure sound.
To me, her voice is quite whining. I think Joe's is much more interesting. He needs a song like Someone Like You. then they don't have a reason not to play him, and if they don't, then we would have the proof of the conspiracy against him. But I hold judgement on that until I'm proven wrong  :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 21, 2012, 08:31:17 PM
sandy pandy  if pop will sell more for joe tell me why  WA took a year to go gold and classic  took a few weeks ----- joe has proven with classic he can be popular in charts -- he hasnt proven that  with pop --- and how do yopu know  that he will gain more fans with pop-- he didnt with WA --- he had 6 million votesd to win x factor ---- then he could barely sell WA  by end of year ---- joe won PSTOS  by a landslide -- and CLASSIC sold well was top 10 for ages --- so what makes you say he would gain more fans with pop --- so far joe  made  more fans  with classic  album  than with WA ---- so i disagree joe would make more fans with pop --- so far not proven ---- and im not a classical fan --- i just want something for all fans -- and not  for joe to start  losing fans --- if joe went  all pop -------- he would deffo lose lots of classic /PSTOS fans ----- so for now  joe hs to keep the classic fans happy aswell as pop/ rock fans --- joe has to have a varied album -- some classic/ some pop etc -- he cant get  airplay at the moment --- his never on t4 on the beach ( not  even with pop album WA) at the moment -- i think  joe has to do a varied album  for classic/ pop fans -- he cannot  just go the pop route -- theres no proof he will gain fans sandypandy
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on January 21, 2012, 08:33:19 PM
Hayley I think you have Joe's situation sussed.  Although I would love Joe to do soft rock/pop I am afraid imo he is still not seen as cool....who will buy this album especially if he doesn't get some BIG tv coverage and he will need to do the festivals...would they invite him?   Classic type albums can be sold on QVC but this is not a good image.  Would the elderly audience who at some venues were a large portion (I'm old but not as elderly as some! :shock1:) buy tickets to his next tour as they did for the last, again without any BIG tv coverage.

Glad I'm not Joe having to decide.   Whatever he does he needs tv publicity.

I think Decca will get him to do more classic type stuff and he will maybe get on some of the summer classic type concerts at stately homes etc.  Most of the weeks on Newmarket race course had already beern filled and unfortunately although I have often lobbied them they have not got Joe on.  He may gvet invited once again to the more northern ones :roll3:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 21, 2012, 08:41:34 PM

wide awake was overproduced. the voice on the album is not Joe's. It's just a robot sounding like Joe.
With a different production, and Joe's voice left as it is, strong and clear, the album would have sold more.

Classic shows off Joe's voice. that's why it sold well.
show off his voice on a pop album and it will sell more.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on January 21, 2012, 09:05:58 PM
Ok, I don't think I'm the only one who thinks this, being a 51 year old mother of a 20 year old I do not find Joe sexy as in affecting parts of my anatomy, but I do love it when he does some sexy dance moves to uptempo songs. I hope young[er] people find him sexy, I certainly would if I were a lot younger. I love Joe's voice and his personality. I think some of the GP still have the perception of the little cute dimply boy who won XF, but now he is a very handsome man and I would love to see him do some smouldering sexy soft/rock pop and big ballads [ not covers] without the silly sound of WA, which I think did lose him fans from XF and I think credibility too as I don't feel he is seen as cool. Classic went a long way to putting the damage from that right, because it showed his real voice.  I agree there is a middle ground which would be great and could please most people. I also think a lot of the older people who went to the tour went off the back of PSTOS and may not be there for another tour. He needs something so fantastic that it pulls everyone in [ a la Enrique Hero ? ] and I hope and pray with all my heart that Decca help him achieve this, along with all the necessary publicity involved. Think I'm repeating myself and other people now so will shut up!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 21, 2012, 09:08:41 PM
maybe sandypandy--- maybe if WA  was  better produced  it may have sold --- who knows --- joe singing pop hasnt been proven -- so who knows  really --- i9 still think joe has to give all fans a varied album  and not a purely pop album -- joe cant afford to lose fans  at all --- i think decca and joe wont gamble  and do all pop  album -- they will choose a mixed  album of pop and classic --- a purely pop album  is very selfish actually as it would mean joe is only doing  albums for his pop fans and dont think  joe would do that -- why leave all his PSTOS fans behind  for pop album  which isnt proved willsell --- going backwards to syco days --- no --- joe has to  be  fair to all fans  and give them all something on album 4 --- im not even  a classical  music fan --- i just see that PSTOS / classic saved joes career this year --- why go back to pop for only half of the fans -- unfair -- joe has to keep  ALL FANS HAPPY --not just the pop fans
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on January 21, 2012, 09:23:09 PM
 
It is very difficult when you have such a varied fan base.
Could Joe have 2 albums coming out at the same time, one original pop/ballards, one perhaps classic covers?? This would defo please everyone. I am sure Decca and Joe have got plans already. But like everyone says he must try and keep all his fans happy, it's a hard one.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 21, 2012, 09:28:37 PM
I don't think it's about being selfish.

There are many ways of deciding what's going to be on an album.

In general the artists with greatest integrity/musicality etc. (not exactly the words I'm looking for but hopefully you will know what I mean), if left to their own devices, will choose what they want to put on the album and will not consider at all what they think the fans want.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 21, 2012, 09:30:09 PM
poppet 68 --- hayley has already suggested  a double album --- one side classic/ one side  pop/ ballads etc --- thats the type of thing me and hayley suggest
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on January 21, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
I don't think it's about being selfish.

There are many ways of deciding what's going to be on an album.

In general the artists with greatest integrity/musicality etc. (not exactly the words I'm looking for but hopefully you will know what I mean), if left to their own devices, will choose what they want to put on the album and will not consider at all what they think the fans want.
Are they more established than Joe so can afford to do this?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on January 21, 2012, 09:32:53 PM
poppet 68 --- hayley has already suggested  a double album --- one side classic/ one side  pop/ ballads etc --- thats the type of thing me and hayley suggest

Oh sorry to repeat you, but great minds think alike
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 21, 2012, 09:34:58 PM
Are they more established than Joe so can afford to do this?

I don't think so no. It's something they kind of do from the start.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 21, 2012, 09:51:16 PM
 as milliiesmum said about other artists being established ----- joe isnt established  really so think he needs to keep all fans happy --- or he may end up  not selling enough to suceed ----- juist hope joe makes an album  that we all love for  his sake  and for his career.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 21, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
poppet 68 --- yes great minds think alike  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 21, 2012, 09:59:24 PM
You don't need to be established though. Most artists don't start out by going - this is what I think people will want to hear. They start out with - this is what I want to sing (or play). You can call that selfish if you want to but I would call that displaying artistic integrity.

And I'm not saying that Joe would or should only do pop on his album. But if he did, I wouldn't be calling him selfish. I would be applauding him for doing what *he* wants to do - the best results almost always come from doing something you truly believe in.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 21, 2012, 10:00:43 PM
 :goodpost: Jude
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 21, 2012, 10:04:33 PM
I think Joe has said on more than one occasion he wants carry on doing pop but will reference the classics
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on January 21, 2012, 10:06:50 PM
You don't need to be established though. Most artists don't start out by going - this is what I think people will want to hear. They start out with - this is what I want to sing (or play). You can call that selfish if you want to but I would call that displaying artistic integrity.

And I'm not saying that Joe would or should only do pop on his album. But if he did, I wouldn't be calling him selfish. I would be applauding him for doing what *he* wants to do - the best results almost always come from doing something you truly believe in.

I think it probably should be a mixture. The label will want sales and to be able to continue with his artistic development he would have to achieve that. With each new successful album and the label's continued support he would be able to experiment more with his music each time and grow as an artist.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on January 21, 2012, 10:07:34 PM
You don't need to be established though. Most artists don't start out by going - this is what I think people will want to hear. They start out with - this is what I want to sing (or play). You can call that selfish if you want to but I would call that displaying artistic integrity.

And I'm not saying that Joe would or should only do pop on his album. But if he did, I wouldn't be calling him selfish. I would be applauding him for doing what *he* wants to do - the best results almost always come from doing something you truly believe in.
I think he will do what he wants to do and take everything into consideration and therefore it will be an album he truly believes in.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 21, 2012, 10:36:00 PM
You don't need to be established though. Most artists don't start out by going - this is what I think people will want to hear. They start out with - this is what I want to sing (or play). You can call that selfish if you want to but I would call that displaying artistic integrity.

And I'm not saying that Joe would or should only do pop on his album. But if he did, I wouldn't be calling him selfish. I would be applauding him for doing what *he* wants to do - the best results almost always come from doing something you truly believe in.

There are alot of artists out there that change direction all the time to suit whats in fashion or whatever and succeed in doing this, I think in general this is more established artists, but I certainly see what you mean Jude.  I do also thinkthere are artists who release the type of music they are told to release originally and then they change their style once they are out there and well known.

 :goodpost: Millesmum.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 21, 2012, 10:55:39 PM
 i dont think joe is selfish ( it wasnt joe  who i meant was selfish  actually it was the fans who only wanted pop who are being selfish---- they arnt thinking of the other classic fans  aswell as themselves)----- joe knows he has to make the fans happy to sell the albums ---- i more thought it was the pop fans  who was  selfish  in only wanting the pop  album -- and not a varied album -- yes we  want joe to do what HE  himself wants to do and applaud him  for doing what he wants to do -- yes well lets see what joe chooses to do  with album 4 --- and if its not pop  will you still applaude him then --- personally i just want joe to do a varied album that suits lots/ all fans  and not just a minority as the pop fans do.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 21, 2012, 10:59:11 PM
it has nothing to do with being selfish!
the point of the thread is to discuss what we would prefer for the next album.
some want classic, some want pop, some want both.
we are all entitled to our opinion and taste without being called selfish because we don't really feel that having both is the right thing to do.
at the end of the day, this is what we would prefer, not what Joe is going to do.
He and the label will decide. there is no need to keep arguing about the same point over and over.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 21, 2012, 11:00:59 PM
... and if it is pop will you applaud him Trudy?

This is a discussion on  a forum and will probably have very little influence on the outcome.  People are only giving their opinions  :)

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 21, 2012, 11:03:10 PM
i dont think joe is selfish ( it wasnt joe  who i meant was selfish  actually it was the fans who only wanted pop who are being selfish---- they arnt thinking of the other classic fans  aswell as themselves)----- joe knows he has to make the fans happy to sell the albums ---- i more thought it was the pop fans  who was  selfish  in only wanting the pop  album -- and not a varied album -- yes we  want joe to do what HE  himself wants to do and applaud him  for doing what he wants to do -- yes well lets see what joe chooses to do  with album 4 --- and if its not pop  will you still applaude him then --- personally i just want joe to do a varied album that suits lots/ all fans  and not just a minority as the pop fans do.

But an opinion is an opinion.  What someone wants Joe to release and someone's opinion of what he should release is just that, it doesn't matter in the long run.  Joe will do what Joe and Decca want him to do.

I originally wanted Joe to do a pop/rock album, bit of RNB would be perfect for me.  I was devestaved that he had record a bit of an 80's throw back album because it's not my thing, so call me selfish.  I hated the idea of PSTOS and Joe doing classical songs to begin with because I do not in general like that style of music, (although I was geninuely worried about how well Joe would be received on PSTOS).  To a certain extend we all want Joe to do a style that we like most or we think suits him and sometimes if you are going to continue to support someone you have to comprise a bit.

Joe since his first album has not done the type of music I *like* or listen to, or what I wanted to do.  But you know what, I just love the guys voice and can't help but follow and support him.  I have actually been on an educational course with music and have experienced so many different things.

I'm rambling now, someone stopped me.  :rofl3:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 21, 2012, 11:10:21 PM
I agree (again) Hayley. 

I have supported Joe since X Factor regardless of what he has released, even though I hated Ambitions (and don't get me started on the video  :roll3:), would not have chosen a Classic album and bought a Christmas album for the first time in my life.  I would love to be wholehearted behind his next release so would love it to be a genre I would otherwise choose to listen to and if that makes me selfish, so be it.

(This is not to say that I haven't absolutely loved some of the tracks on WA, Classic or CC).
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 21, 2012, 11:19:16 PM
I agree (again) Hayley. 

I have supported Joe since X Factor regardless of what he has released, even though I hated Ambitions (and don't get me started on the video  :roll3:), would not have chosen a Classic album and bought a Christmas album for the first time in my life.  I would love to be wholehearted behind his next release so would love it to be a genre I would otherwise choose to listen to and if that makes me selfish, so be it.

(This is not to say that I haven't absolutely loved some of the tracks on WA, Classic or CC).

Exactly what I meant Carisma.  I hated Ambitions with a capital H to begin with, I would not be seen dead buying a pure pop album or a classical album and I HATE Christmas songs, but here I am with all 3 albums purchased by the bucketload and I blooming love some of the songs on all 3 albums and I still love Joe.

I would also love to love Joe's next release without only loving it because it's Joe and Joe's voice.  I would like it to be something that I would have in my collection anyway because they are damn good songs sung fantastically by an incredible singer.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 21, 2012, 11:26:22 PM
  :goodpost: We are in a mutual appreciation society tonight, Hayley  :-)

But I also want to say that I think Joe himself deserves so much more than he has been given so far - by Syco certainly but even to an extent by Decca.

 He has an incredible voice, can interpret a song wonderfully and I don't believe for a minute that there is not a songwriter out there who wants Joe's voice to do justice to their songs (and I never have believed that).
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 21, 2012, 11:30:11 PM
Sir Tim Rice has made the first step ;)
they are probably queuing right now outside Decca's door, camping until Joe comes back from his holiday.  :haha:
(I hope!!!)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: kanga samps on January 21, 2012, 11:33:14 PM
Can I tag on to the mutual appreciation society ?

I think you are absolutely right - Joe does deserve so much more, and hopefully we will see more and more good stuff happening for Joe.

Much as I love all the albums so far, we haven't heard the best of Joe yet, and I look forward to the time when everyone hears what we hear. :excite:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on January 21, 2012, 11:34:31 PM
Well i agree with so many people i don't really know where to start!!! :blush: :D
& i very much agree with your last point there Carisma :)
I think in some ways Josh Groban is a good model for Joe..think it was Sandyrose that mentioned him
Though i don't really want Joe to do more training (and it doesn't really appear that he does either) but Josh does a bit of variety in his songs, like in the links posted! & i have seen him interviewed lotsa times and he really is a lovely fella & actually quite funny & he doesn't have that crooner image that i'd be worried bout too that Jude & i've forgotten who else mentioned :blush: sorry :sorry:
Thanks for the link Mihi, was interesting wasn't gone on the song but would like to hear some more when you find them :-)
Personally i would perfer pop/rock for Joe but as to whether that is the best option at the minute i don't know
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 21, 2012, 11:36:05 PM
  :goodpost: We are in a mutual appreciation society tonight, Hayley  :-)

But I also want to say that I think Joe himself deserves so much more than he has been given so far - by Syco certainly but even to an extent by Decca.

 He has an incredible voice, can interpret a song wonderfully and I don't believe for a minute that there is not a songwriter out there who wants Joe's voice to do justice to his songs (and I never have believed that).

Yeah and hopefully this next album will be full of fantastic songs written for Joe that he can do justice too.  Classic and CC were recorded at very quick speed.  If Joe does indeed take more time on this next album, original songs, possibly getting involved in some song writing.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 21, 2012, 11:40:16 PM
Can I tag on to the mutual appreciation society ?

I think you are absolutely right - Joe does deserve so much more, and hopefully we will see more and more good stuff happening for Joe.

Much as I love all the albums so far, we haven't heard the best of Joe yet, and I look forward to the time when everyone hears what we hear. :excite:

Sure tag along.

I agree, the best is yet to come.  Hopefully 2012 will be the year!

Joe has said several times he wants to strive for bigger and better with each and every album and everything he does in his career. 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 21, 2012, 11:42:17 PM
In terms of pop on a classic album, something like this would be a good thing to include on the album. This is a Dutch pop/rock group doing a duet with a classically trained pianist. Crossover could work both ways, so classical songs more 'poppy' (for the lack of a better word) and pop/rock songs more classical...

Watched the video of Di-rect at last
I like it!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 21, 2012, 11:58:50 PM
YES -- carisma--- if joe does a pop album that gets in the charts -- and gets to no2 ( like classic) or even no 1 --- ill applaude joe --- and throw a party --- i want joe to succeed --- and  sell records carisma ----- id love joe to have an album with songs like human/ affirmation etc --- and would love it to be a success --- but --- i9m not sure if joe can sell pop songs --- so far he has proven he sells classic songs and ballads more  than pop------- lets see what happens with album no 4 --- and if its full of pop and a success --- big applause for joe --- if it has pop and classics ------ big applause too ---- im not eve4n a classical music fan --- i just  saw how well it sold for joe --- i want joe to be a success not a flop like with WA --- and i was here when  everyone got upset last time joe had bad times with syco / WA and dont want it to happen again --- i just feel some of the pop fans have forgotten  the bad days of WA  --- and i want album no4 to be a big seller -- thats why i want a varied album with something for everyone --- so joe keeps his fans and doesnt lose them again like he did with WA.--- basically scared he will lose lots of fans if he just goes pop again --- altho personally feel decca and joe will keep all fans  happy.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 22, 2012, 12:04:29 AM
Trudy, I for one have not forgotten the bad/sad times of this time last year, but honestly I think that was more down to Syco, lack of promo and the production than the genre of the album :)

Let's look forward to what is coming next rather than keep looking back  :friends:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 22, 2012, 12:16:14 AM
But I also want to say that I think Joe himself deserves so much more than he has been given so far - by Syco certainly but even to an extent by Decca.

 :goodpost:  :goodpost:  :goodpost:

Joe was not a "flop" with Wide Awake. It got to no.3.

I would rather Joe produced a quality album that truly relects him as a musician, even it sells less than an album of crossover standards.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 22, 2012, 01:30:34 AM
you know jude--- i  really hope joe does make  that quality album -- one that he wants --  and one that gets airplay and promo-- and one that sells well ------- maybe a miracle might happen ---- joe is the best male singer in uk ---- but he cant get airplay --- wish he could and id be more confident  that joes pop will sell  --- i really do want a varied album but whatever hope joes album no4  sells well --- just been watching dvds of x factor ( hayley has therm on ) and it shows joe being told by judges  that he has the VOICE --- his the greatest --- well why did syco  let joe down  so badly ---- well never know ---  just hope  joe can sell album no 4 -- as well and as quick as he sold classic --- gold in a few weeks --- hope for that really.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on January 22, 2012, 10:01:14 AM
Just a thought! could you see Joe getting a cover album out quickly to keep the general public  happy and then concentrating on the album Joe wants to do later in the year?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 22, 2012, 10:08:57 AM
Just a thought! could you see Joe getting a cover album out quickly to keep the general public  happy and then concentrating on the album Joe wants to do later in the year?

The general public don't really care about Joe though so why should a quick cover album keep them happy - it would have the opposite effect and attract even more criticism.

If you meant the part of the general public that are fans of Joe then I don't see the need for that either - I think most of us would prefer one that took a bit longer (regardless of genre) :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on January 22, 2012, 12:03:55 PM
Just a thought! could you see Joe getting a cover album out quickly to keep the general public  happy and then concentrating on the album Joe wants to do later in the year?

The general public don't really care about Joe though so why should a quick cover album keep them happy - it would have the opposite effect and attract even more criticism.

If you meant the part of the general public that are fans of Joe then I don't see the need for that either - I think most of us would prefer one that took a bit longer (regardless of genre) :)

I am sorry I did not explain myself properly.  Of course real fans of Joe's will wait however long it takes for number 4 to be made.

After PSTOS Joe got Classic out there very quick, then CC. The result was great sales. Unfortunatley most people forget and move onto someone else if they are not in the limelight. You could say there are not true fans, which is true, but if they buy his albums then he must not be forgotten in there eyes.  I know quite a few people who voted for Joe on PSTOS who would have forgotton about him if he had not relised Classic.

I might not be making much sence sorry
True fans will never forget Joe I know but so many people are impulse buyers.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 22, 2012, 03:43:08 PM
 poppet  68-- what about the idea we said before me / hayley and yourself about the double album  with one cd classic/ 1 cd pop/rock/---- if your making two albums to suit all tastes -- this was a better idea.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: marylou on January 22, 2012, 04:49:17 PM
I still think there is a great market for bringing back more harmonious and melodic numbers to the music scene of today and I don't think there is a better artist out there than Joe to do it.
Decca, bearing in mind the kind of music they already produce, will have done all their homework and I think the decision as to what will be the theme of the next album has already been made.

Whatever form the next album takes I hope it continues to showcase Joe's unique talent and is strong and powerful enough to lay down another layer of the firm foundation of his career.
and most importantly...sells well!

It is of no consequence, in my personal opinion, which genre he chooses, be it mixed or one in particular, covers or originals, only that it achieves the above. :ilovejoe:


Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 22, 2012, 05:21:01 PM
thats what i want marylou -- whatever the genre of music it sells well -- thats what i wish for ---- i mainly wanted a varied album as there will be something for everyone --- just like the tour.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 22, 2012, 06:25:47 PM
Well there's a difference then. Because I don't really care about the sales as long as Joe retains the recording contract. I'm much more interested in the quality of the music. For me, he has done the one/two albums to appeal to the masses. Now's the time to start making more adventurous choices.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on January 22, 2012, 06:35:39 PM
I feel it is not what we want personally....but what will give Joe respect and longevity in the music industry.... :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 22, 2012, 07:02:18 PM
I feel it is not what we want personally....but what will give Joe respect and longevity in the music industry.... :ilovejoe:

Yeah and we all do want longevity for Joe.

Ah see Jude, I really don't think Joe is established enough to make "adventurous" choices right now, do you mean like experimenting with a totally new style?  I fear that would alienate more fans, obviously could be a big hit but would be a big risk.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on January 22, 2012, 07:25:08 PM
I feel it is not what we want personally....but what will give Joe respect and longevity in the music industry.... :ilovejoe:

Yeah and we all do want longevity for Joe.

Ah see Jude, I really don't think Joe is established enough to make "adventurous" choices right now, do you mean like experimenting with a totally new style?  I fear that would alienate more fans, obviously could be a big hit but would be a big risk.

Bit scary isn't it? Joe's a big risk taker on occasions..... he likes scary..... eeke
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 22, 2012, 07:29:04 PM
I feel it is not what we want personally....but what will give Joe respect and longevity in the music industry.... :ilovejoe:

This is exactly what I mean and what I want for him.

Ah see Jude, I really don't think Joe is established enough to make "adventurous" choices right now, do you mean like experimenting with a totally new style?  I fear that would alienate more fans, obviously could be a big hit but would be a big risk.

No - not a totally new style. What I mean is that with Classic and even more so with  Classic Christmas the tracks were very safe, very predictable. They were designed to sell records, not to impress the music literati. If Joe wants respect he needs to make an album that shows who he is, with some more "individual" choices. In my opinion Wide Awake did that more than the two Classics. If he continues in the same vein as the two Classics then he risks turning himself into a middle of the road crooner. He could be very successful doing that, but that's not really what I want for him as I don't believe that is who he wants to be.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 22, 2012, 07:31:11 PM
I agree and totally with you on that Jude  :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on January 22, 2012, 07:37:01 PM
No - not a totally new style. What I mean is that with Classic and even more so with  Classic Christmas the tracks were very safe, very predictable. They were designed to sell records, not to impress the music literati. If Joe wants respect he needs to make an album that shows who he is, with some more "individual" choices. In my opinion Wide Awake did that more than the two Classics. If he continues in the same vein as the two Classics then he risks turning himself into a middle of the road crooner. He could be very successful doing that, but that's not really what I want for him as I don't believe that is who he wants to be.

 :goodpost:

In addition I think Decca has a whole stable of great & respected artists who never make number 1 chart positions but make good music & have been around for many years. They make steady money for Decca & themselves - they grow their talent, fanbase, & repertoire out of the harsh light of the top of the charts.... maybe that's what Joe wants - he says its not about the money or the chart positions but about making good music that people enjoy.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 22, 2012, 07:46:23 PM
 :goodpost: Jude

Joe got a lot of respect in some areas for WA as it wasn't predictable and he took a risk (ok the risk didn't really pay off but there are many well documented reasons for that) whereas Classic wasn't really a risk.

Operating under Syco's ruthless be immediately successful or all promo budget is taken away strategy, which ultimately means they drop you , regardless of the encouragement to take the risk in the first place, can not be good for any artists development - and then even if you are successful, you are sidelined for years until people lose interest.

I really hope Decca were telling the truth in their statement when they signed Joe that they "nurture their artists" and then maybe Joe can take some risks without the threat of being dropped hanging over him.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on January 22, 2012, 07:54:17 PM
 :goodpost: Jude and carisma
Totally agree
& i really hope the nurturing thing is true too!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 22, 2012, 08:09:51 PM
I feel it is not what we want personally....but what will give Joe respect and longevity in the music industry.... :ilovejoe:

This is exactly what I mean and what I want for him.

Ah see Jude, I really don't think Joe is established enough to make "adventurous" choices right now, do you mean like experimenting with a totally new style?  I fear that would alienate more fans, obviously could be a big hit but would be a big risk.

No - not a totally new style. What I mean is that with Classic and even more so with  Classic Christmas the tracks were very safe, very predictable. They were designed to sell records, not to impress the music literati. If Joe wants respect he needs to make an album that shows who he is, with some more "individual" choices. In my opinion Wide Awake did that more than the two Classics. If he continues in the same vein as the two Classics then he risks turning himself into a middle of the road crooner. He could be very successful doing that, but that's not really what I want for him as I don't believe that is who he wants to be.

Ah get ya now, I do agree actually.  Good post also Carisma.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on January 22, 2012, 08:13:28 PM
I feel it is not what we want personally....but what will give Joe respect and longevity in the music industry.... :ilovejoe:

 :goodpost: Peggysue thats what we all want for Joe
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 22, 2012, 09:55:47 PM
agree peggysue --- i want what will give joe logevity  and respect -- more than what i want  at the moment  for myself. :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on January 22, 2012, 10:57:17 PM
I feel it is not what we want personally....but what will give Joe respect and longevity in the music industry.... :ilovejoe:

 :goodpost: Peggysue thats what we all want for Joe

 :goodpost: Exactley!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 22, 2012, 11:01:24 PM
quote from Classic Tour programme:

Q: have you had any thoughts about what you'd like to do for your next album?
A: I'd really like to spend some time and do some song-writing and do some more original songs, like on my first album. I just want to keep experiencing and learning about music - it's such an interesting thing -  and I just want to keep enjoying what I do as a job. Whenever I look back on my career, I always want to think I learnt so much. That's the way I want to remember it and so I'm trying to create that feeling. When it comes closer to the time of recording the next album, which will probably be next year, I'll think carefully about it

Q: Have you done much song-writing up to this point?
A: A tiny bit but I really want to spend some time doing it. I feel like these past two years have gone so quick that I want to just step out of the craziness for a minute and write a nice song. Maybe even write about what I've experienced.


I was just reading the programme tonight after all this time, and forgot about this bit  :) it's lovely!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on January 22, 2012, 11:11:43 PM
Thanks for that sandy, had forgotten all about it too, will have to pop it out sometime and have another read.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JazDarcy on January 22, 2012, 11:24:02 PM
My programme is stuck to my wall :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 22, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
 great  about the song  writing --- hope joe writes some songs --- better ones than whats on wide awake  i hope ---- it will have to be more popular than WA  hopefully .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: louisew on January 22, 2012, 11:30:27 PM
I agree with what Jude has said.

I think Joe's choice of Affirmation for the tour is significant. Joe included the songs from his 'journey' which we all wanted to hear (and the public's choice) - but why Affirmation? Did he want to see our reaction to it as this is the way he would like to go next? I really hope so!!!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 22, 2012, 11:41:27 PM
I think Joe chose Affirmations for the lyrics more than the genre - they represent him, his journey and his beliefs
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 23, 2012, 12:04:30 AM
yes its a good song --- hope he can write somthing like affirmations too -- good words carisma.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joefan43 on January 23, 2012, 12:10:56 AM
I'd like to see more original songs on album 4 either wrote by Joe or someone else with Joe co-writing
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mr wombat on January 23, 2012, 12:59:24 AM
Am I allowed to say I don't like Affirmations.  The lyrics might be good, but I don't normally listen to the lyrics, just the overall sound.  I find it extremely repetitive and un-melodic, and can't listen to it right through. 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 23, 2012, 01:08:51 AM
you can say what you like mr wombat ---- think alot of us like it tho sang by joe on tour.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on January 23, 2012, 08:42:14 AM
quote from Classic Tour programme:

Q: have you had any thoughts about what you'd like to do for your next album?
A: I'd really like to spend some time and do some song-writing and do some more original songs, like on my first album. I just want to keep experiencing and learning about music - it's such an interesting thing -  and I just want to keep enjoying what I do as a job. Whenever I look back on my career, I always want to think I learnt so much. That's the way I want to remember it and so I'm trying to create that feeling. When it comes closer to the time of recording the next album, which will probably be next year, I'll think carefully about it

Q: Have you done much song-writing up to this point?
A: A tiny bit but I really want to spend some time doing it. I feel like these past two years have gone so quick that I want to just step out of the craziness for a minute and write a nice song. Maybe even write about what I've experienced.


I was just reading the programme tonight after all this time, and forgot about this bit  :) it's lovely!
I'm always looking back to this part of the program, I think it was the first bit of info we got about album number 4.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 23, 2012, 12:01:22 PM
i hope joe writes some of his own songs --- it would be great to have some   originals from joe --- altho i still want to have a varied album ---- i think its fair if joe does a varioed album --- as he needs to keep his fans happy ----- joe is still here cos his fans supported him when syco dropped him ------ i feel joe still owes alot to the fans and still needs to keep them happy to sell his records ---- it will be nice to hear a song written by joe tho. im sure he will write a good song.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 23, 2012, 12:11:09 PM
Funny that sense of "owing his fans". I see it the other way around. I owe Joe sooooo sooooo much. Because he brings me so much pleasure. He doesn't owe me a thing.  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on January 23, 2012, 12:15:08 PM
Beat me to it Jude. Joe owes me nothing. He sang songs I loved listening to so I bought the album, end off. He didn't force me to buy it. Same goes for XF voting. Nobody made me vote for him, he sang, I loved it so I voted end of transaction to me.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on January 23, 2012, 12:19:21 PM
I agree Jude and Litcar its us who owe Joe, for all the pleasure he has brought us and will continue to bring us   :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on January 23, 2012, 12:24:50 PM
I don't feel that Joe owes me anything either. It was my choice to vote my choice to buy his music and equally it will be my choice to stop supporting him if I also feel that I could no longer do so. 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 23, 2012, 12:26:52 PM
Funny that sense of "owing his fans". I see it the other way around. I owe Joe sooooo sooooo much. Because he brings me so much pleasure. He doesn't owe me a thing.  :ilovejoe:

I don't agree.
I think we owe him a lot, but he owes us a lot too. It's an exchange.
He is grateful for the opportunity we gave him by voting him as the winner. Obviously it was down to him in the first place to go on the programme, but without our support, he would not be there.
And without him we wouldn't be here either.

I like to think that it is an exchange of good things: he provides with the entertainment and we support. it works both ways ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: queenie4joe on January 23, 2012, 12:27:03 PM
 :goodpost: Jude, and Litcar  - he doesn't owe me a thing either.  I just want him  to keep doing what he's doing and  S I N G and I'll repay him by buying it all!!!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on January 23, 2012, 12:31:37 PM
Funny that sense of "owing his fans". I see it the other way around. I owe Joe sooooo sooooo much. Because he brings me so much pleasure. He doesn't owe me a thing.  :ilovejoe:

I don't agree.
I think we owe him a lot, but he owes us a lot too. It's an exchange.
He is grateful for the opportunity we gave him by voting him as the winner. Obviously it was down to him in the first place to go on the programme, but without our support, he would not be there.
And without him we wouldn't be here either.

I like to think that it is an exchange of good things: he provides with the entertainment and we support. it works both ways ;)

Yes Sandy but you said it yourself 'he provides the entertainment and we provide the support. So why should he owe us something else for our support when he has already given us the entertainment?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 23, 2012, 12:32:58 PM
without our support he wouldn't be able to provide the entertainment.
 :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on January 23, 2012, 12:40:19 PM
without our support he wouldn't be able to provide the entertainment.
 :)

And without his entertainment we wouldn't be able to support. I look at it as a barter transaction. You have something I want so I give you something for it in exchange. Now I cannot expect you to owe me anything else just because what I gave you was good for you. If we do that we never stop. We voted for him because he gave us pleasure when listening to his voice not so we can own him forever more.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 23, 2012, 12:45:16 PM
I'm not saying he is owing anything else. Did I say that? I have to re-read my post...
that's not what i mean at all.
We owe him, he owes us. I don't mean we are going to owe something to each other for the rest of our lives.
and you said it yourself. it's an exchange. that's exactly what I said... I think...

let me re-read the post, i'm confused now.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 23, 2012, 12:46:25 PM
yes, I am confused.
I see it as we are saying the exact same thing...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on January 23, 2012, 12:54:12 PM
What I'm saying is that he doesn't owe us anything and I don't owe him anything either.
He gave me the music I bought the cd, that's the exchange.

Sorry if we are saying the same thing and I'm not getting it. If we are then all is good. :D
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 23, 2012, 01:02:55 PM
I didn't get that you were saying that you don't owe him anything either.
but in the end, we are saying the same thing: that it's an exchange rather than one owing everything to the other ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on January 23, 2012, 01:05:49 PM
I didn't get that you were saying that you don't owe him anything either.
but in the end, we are saying the same thing: that it's an exchange rather than one owing everything to the other ;)

 :lol: :lol: I'm glad that's sorted then.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on January 23, 2012, 01:12:09 PM
 :rofl2:  :rofl3:  :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 23, 2012, 01:18:34 PM
better not cross Litcar!!!!
just twist everything and make her believe you are saying the same thing, and it's all sorted...

 :sarky:



PS: I'm joking, we are saying the same thing
 :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on January 23, 2012, 01:30:57 PM
better not cross Litcar!!!!
just twist everything and make her believe you are saying the same thing, and it's all sorted...

 :sarky:



PS: I'm joking, we are saying the same thing
 :lol:  :lol:

 :rofl2: :rofl3: :rofl2: :rofl3:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 23, 2012, 01:37:02 PM
funny -- i agreed with sandy that time ( and me and sandy useually disagree) joe gives the enterrtainment and we support him ------ he owers us the songs  and we owe him the support ------ i just feel joe more than alot of other singers got a second chance  after being dropped  by syco --- and his  loyal fans gave him so much support  on PSTOS --- he won   and we and him self got the album / tours  we all wanted ---- its a mutual thing really --- he givess us entertainment -- and we the fans support joe --- its a mutual  appreciation  society then --- i dont think anyone owns joe  either -- he owns himself --- the fans dont own him   -- just thought he owed the fans something for everyone  on his album -- thats all -- up to joe and decca what he decides  to do with album 4 -- just hope its a popular choice.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on January 23, 2012, 06:57:59 PM
I never think in terms of 'Owes me'

The only thing that I think an artist owes his or her fans, is when they buy a ticket for a show, to give his or her best.

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on January 23, 2012, 08:36:11 PM
I never think in terms of 'Owes me'

The only thing that I think an artist owes his or her fans, is when they buy a ticket for a show, to give his or her best.

 :goodpost: Always the voice of reason  :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 23, 2012, 08:47:59 PM
reading the exchange of posts with Litcar, I think this is our best conversation so far...  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on January 23, 2012, 08:51:01 PM
reading the exchange of posts with Litcar, I think this is our best conversation so far...  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Saying the same thing and not knowing!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 23, 2012, 09:35:29 PM
haahaa ------- same convo was funny litcar
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on January 24, 2012, 09:20:21 PM
I've jut seen that Leona's next album is now due for release on November 26th so Joe could be the first Xfactor winner to have three top 3 albums  if Album no 4 charts well :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 24, 2012, 09:23:43 PM
November??????  :shock1:
gosh! why is it taking so long???
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 24, 2012, 09:31:19 PM
leonas album has been put back so many times november  god
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on January 24, 2012, 09:32:06 PM
Leona Lewis
Just wanted to update everyone on the album! I'm feeling so inspired right now and have decided to continue recording! I have a collection of songs that I'm so in love with and I no there's more to be born so it means the album will come early next year x
Like ·  · Share · 26 September at 18:42

This is what she said in September, I wouldn't call November 'early next year'!!!!! :shock1: :shock1:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on January 24, 2012, 09:33:08 PM
That's over a year delay isn't it? :shock1:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 24, 2012, 09:34:14 PM
yes, over a year.
but if she is inspired, then she might as well take her time and write and record something really good.
just makes me a bit worried that Joe is going to feel inspired too... which is good in a way, but... it's a long wait!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on January 24, 2012, 09:37:29 PM
Leona Lewis
Just wanted to update everyone on the album! I'm feeling so inspired right now and have decided to continue recording! I have a collection of songs that I'm so in love with and I no there's more to be born so it means the album will come early next year x
Like ·  · Share · 26 September at 18:42

This is what she said in September, I wouldn't call November 'early next year'!!!!! :shock1: :shock1:

Her fans will be distraught - its such a shame as they have been waiting such a long time.  I guess this will secure her a spot on XF UK & USA to promote it again though.  (Hope we don't have to wait that long for Joe - I know we have to be patient but its been a few years that her fans have been waiting)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on January 24, 2012, 09:40:29 PM
dont  think joe will keep us waiting that long -- joe wants to do another tour later this year -- so id say  album 4 will be done before leonas album 3.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on January 24, 2012, 09:41:05 PM
yes, over a year.
but if she is inspired, then she might as well take her time and write and record something really good.
just makes me a bit worried that Joe is going to feel inspired too... which is good in a way, but... it's a long wait!

Is it inspiration that's the hold up though? I don't know!!!! :twiddle:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on January 24, 2012, 09:44:43 PM
well, I suppose not. but she is successful so I don't understand what is stopping them. she gets airplay and all that. And she has SCowell behind her, so what else is slowing things down?
very strange.
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Post by: BlueAngel51 on January 24, 2012, 09:45:42 PM
yes, over a year.
but if she is inspired, then she might as well take her time and write and record something really good.
just makes me a bit worried that Joe is going to feel inspired too... which is good in a way, but... it's a long wait!

Is it inspiration that's the hold up though? I don't know!!!! :twiddle:


 
RyanJL Ryan Love   
So yea, Amazon are now listing Leona's #Glassheart for release
later in the year - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Glassheart-Leona-Lewis/dp/B005GRTNXC/ref=pd_sim_m_h__2?tag=5336653544-21  #refiningandperfecting
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Post by: Susie D on January 24, 2012, 09:46:17 PM
well, I suppose not. but she is successful so I don't understand what is stopping them. she gets airplay and all that. And she has SCowell behind her, so what else is slowing things down?
very strange.

Mmmm! Exactly? What else could be going on?
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Post by: roec on January 24, 2012, 10:19:05 PM
well, I suppose not. but she is successful so I don't understand what is stopping them. she gets airplay and all that. And she has SCowell behind her, so what else is slowing things down?
very strange.

Mmmm! Exactly? What else could be going on?
So was Shayne until they kept stopping him doing anything/releasing anything though :tap:
Not as successful as Leona alright but still very successful
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Post by: s on January 24, 2012, 10:22:30 PM
is it because she would steal the sales from One Direction??????  ;)

I'm so mean!!!!!  :sarky:
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Post by: Trudy on January 24, 2012, 11:00:41 PM
maybe they are trying to get better songs for leona --- or write better songs --- leonas last performance on x factor / royal variety --- wasnt really that great ---- when she sang hurt -- wasnt that good  really -- maybe they needs lots more inspiration.
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on January 24, 2012, 11:02:45 PM
i'm really excited to see what joe will have for us for album number 4!
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Post by: Trudy on January 24, 2012, 11:20:36 PM
i want a varied album --- but -- i am hoping for a  few joe originals  too -- love to see  and hear joe sing some original songs,
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Post by: Hayley on January 24, 2012, 11:43:37 PM
well, I suppose not. but she is successful so I don't understand what is stopping them. she gets airplay and all that. And she has SCowell behind her, so what else is slowing things down?
very strange.

Mmmm! Exactly? What else could be going on?
So was Shayne until they kept stopping him doing anything/releasing anything though :tap:
Not as successful as Leona alright but still very successful

Yeah If I was a diehard Leona fan I would be a bit worried about the constant pushing back of album 3.
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Post by: s on January 24, 2012, 11:45:07 PM
I suppose she is signed off for another album and can't get out of it...  :roll3:
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Post by: Trudy on January 25, 2012, 01:52:32 AM
really hope joe has some brilliant ideas for  the new album 4 -- cant beleive its album 4 -- this time last year joe had only 1 album and now  his gone in 1 year to get  2 more albums ==== 3 albums now === and no 4 on the way --- hoping joe does write some new songs too  :ilovejoe:


 regarding leona album 3  being held back until november --- i saw something say cowell / company --- arnt sure about leonas electro pop-- it also said  HURT -- which leona sang  on xf --- got in top 10  for 1 week and out top 100 next week --- sems cowell is a bit scared she will flop i think .( seems last single was not so successful) personally didnt think HURT was that good on xf by leona.--- will leona be next shayne .( always thought leona was cowells princess--- as cowell knew her from brits school before xf)
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Post by: Addicted2Joe on January 25, 2012, 10:26:13 AM
really hope joe has some brilliant ideas for  the new album 4 -- cant beleive its album 4 -- this time last year joe had only 1 album and now  his gone in 1 year to get  2 more albums ==== 3 albums now === and no 4 on the way --- hoping joe does write some new songs too  :ilovejoe:


 regarding leona album 3  being held back until november --- i saw something say cowell / company --- arnt sure about leonas electro pop-- it also said  HURT -- which leona sang  on xf --- got in top 10  for 1 week and out top 100 next week --- sems cowell is a bit scared she will flop i think .( seems last single was not so successful) personally didnt think HURT was that good on xf by leona.--- will leona be next shayne .( always thought leona was cowells princess--- as cowell knew her from brits school before xf)

Think you've hit the nail right on the head there Trudy.  Leona is Cowell's golden girl and her last couple of singles didn't do too well in the charts.  I'm not a die-hard Leona fan but I do have both her albums and was looking forward to hearing the next one (also actually preferred Echo to Spirit) so am a bit disappointed myself that it keeps getting put back.  Definitely reminiscent of the Shayne Ward situation.  It was believed he was kept hidden so as not to steal Leona's thunder after she won XF.  Someone here mentioned about 1D and that maybe Leona is now being shelved temporarily while 1D are given the limelight.  Risky game SCowell keeps playing and I hope like a house of cards it all comes tumbling down on him one day soon.  Soooo glad Joe is well out of it :phew: !!

Really hope there are some very good original tracks on Joe's next album and at least one written (or co-written) by him on there would be a huge bonus, if he finds he has a talent for songwriting  :)  It shouldn't be the Wide Awake situation (overproduction meaning that potentially decent songs were done an injustice) if the new album is given the 'Classic' treatment.  I'm hoping this is Joe's chance to wow the record buying public and earn more respect in the music industry.  Or should I say 'even more' respect, as I think he was gaining more of it (from the people that mattered anyway) through his positive attitude and turning things around so well last year.  This is quite a pivotal album (no pressure Joe/Decca  :-)) - very relieved it sounds like he's taking more time with it and there should be a lot of thought going into it. 
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Post by: Trudy on January 25, 2012, 10:42:55 AM
i agree with everything you said michelle brilliant post :goodpost:
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on January 25, 2012, 02:44:58 PM
completely agree michelle!
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Post by: Susie D on January 25, 2012, 04:12:28 PM
regarding leona album 3  being held back until november --- i saw something say cowell / company --- arnt sure about leonas electro pop-- it also said  HURT -- which leona sang  on xf --- got in top 10  for 1 week and out top 100 next week --- sems cowell is a bit scared she will flop i think .( seems last single was not so successful) personally didnt think HURT was that good on xf by leona.--- will leona be next shayne .( always thought leona was cowells princess--- as cowell knew her from brits school before xf)

I had also read somewhere that Clive Davis has taken over the production (I think it is called) of this album and that he wasn't totally taken by Leona's songwriting skills - there may be a conflict of interests going on.  I will try and find the link.

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Post by: Trudy on January 25, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
yes susied find the link --- clive davies liked joe alot on xf -- when joe sang where do broken hearts go ---- clive/ whitney were impressed with joe --- wish they could have taken joe to usa --- thats what joe needed someone who beleived in him --- someone with some clout in usa --- im sure theyd LOVE JOE IN USA --- AND BY THE WAY --- I LOVED JOE SINGING -- WHERE DO BROKEN HEARTS GO  BETTER THAN WHITNEY. :ilovejoe: :ten: IVE seen joe and leona LIVE -- and joe is the best  singer of the 2 --- cant understand why cowell doesnt see/ hear joes talent -- blind / deaf cowell --- age is catching up  with him i think -- also it could see maybe  cowell wants to shelve leona to boost 1D --- i saw a video of 1D on tour (  a twitter link )  and 1D were -- to put it mildly SH*T they couldnt sing for for toffee  as the old saying goes  and sooooo overated too -- too much hype  and xf propaganda as  said by brookstein ( who does sometimes talk sense ) 1D WHEN THE 1 d audience grow up --- stop screaming/ throwing knickers / tampons  and condoms ( yes they throw these )at these silly boys their career will be over --- their useless live ----- JOE  on the otherhand is THE BEST LIVE SINGER IVE SEEN EVER ( including the great freddie mercury / george micheal/ elton john --- ive seen them all )-- but -- non as note perfect as  our joey --- he really is that talented --- i have NEVER seen anyone sing better LIVE than on record ---  ONLY JOE.
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Post by: Susie D on January 25, 2012, 07:34:14 PM
Just logged back on Trudy so I will have a look for the link.  I often feel that Joe is  'in the right place, where he should rightfully be  with his talent, but just not at the right time', at the moment  I feel the right time will come, it may be this year, in five years who knows.  I do wish him every success with this album but know that as long as his talent can been seen and it is valued - regardless of record sales - he will be around for a long time.  We all know that he wants to be out there performing so as long as he can he will be happy. :-)
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Post by: kanga samps on January 25, 2012, 08:18:58 PM
SusieD - I agree with your post.
I had the day off today whilst my car was serviced and watched my Dvd of Joe's X factor journey and then the PSTOS one, all fabulous performances. With the right song at the right moment and the right exposure, I think it will all turn round for Joe sales wise and popularity - just a matter of timing for Joe. Strong foundations have now been laid and it looks like everyone knows this fourth album is really key.
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Post by: Hayley on January 25, 2012, 08:54:31 PM
Just logged back on Trudy so I will have a look for the link.  I often feel that Joe is  'in the right place, where he should rightfully be  with his talent, but just not at the right time', at the moment  I feel the right time will come, it may be this year, in five years who knows.  I do wish him every success with this album but know that as long as his talent can been seen and it is valued - regardless of record sales - he will be around for a long time.  We all know that he wants to be out there performing so as long as he can he will be happy. :-)

What a good post.  :goodpost:
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Post by: Poppet68 on January 25, 2012, 09:06:22 PM
 :goodpost: Joe might take a while to reach the top of the mountain but when he does he will be there for a very long while. Whatever he does he knows we will support him to the end of the earth. As long as Joe is happy and performing then so am I.
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Post by: joefan43 on January 25, 2012, 10:11:21 PM
I think their getting scared where Leona's album has been put back again Could it be coz Alex is releasing new material in March and she does do uptempos better than Leona

Back on topic I think Joe will go worldwide with his material this year and he blow everyone away with his wonderful voice
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Post by: marylou on January 25, 2012, 10:28:39 PM
I question as to saying that 'strong foundations have been laid', as I feel they are still in the process of being laid.   Time wise and actual tracks released Joe is still in his fledgling years, and he will be wise to take his time and not release anything that is too much of a gamble at this point.

All too often you can see the casualities in the industry of trying too hard to fly before you have established a sound base to launch from.

The more I think of it the more I feel that he would be better to bring out a lighter but still loaded on the ballard side album with just a couple at most, of experimental new tracks, to test the water.

Just my opinion.. but better to follow up on Classic with a dead cert than to take chances at this stage.

 :ilovejoe:

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Post by: s on January 25, 2012, 10:43:31 PM
they they will criticise him for not taking a risk, but going with what is safe.
no matter what, they will criticise. So he should go for what he likes the best. After all he will be the one performing those songs over and over again ;)
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Post by: Hayley on January 25, 2012, 10:55:20 PM
they they will criticise him for not taking a risk, but going with what is safe.
no matter what, they will criticise. So he should go for what he likes the best. After all he will be the one performing those songs over and over again ;)

But he does need to go with what will sell too, Joe can't afford to take a massive risk that doesn't pay off.

If Joe came back with an amazing album that blew everyone away no-one would care if a few idiots said it was "safe". 

And I don't want safe, I want out of this world incredible.  :pray: :hurrah:
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Post by: s on January 25, 2012, 11:05:11 PM
 :D
and he certainly can do "out of this world incredible"

After he tweeted "Silence is the loudest reply", I thought... he's working on songs right now. He's got his artist/philosopher head on... ;)
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Post by: marylou on January 25, 2012, 11:15:08 PM
I dont think the people who bought his Classic and his Christmas Classic album will criticise him for singing more well loved and beautifully sung songs as well as a few new ones. He has such a beautiful voice and they want to just hear him sing.
Bloomin ek! the lad could sing about anything and still sound good!

 I know the same appreciative audience and even more are out there waiting for a singer like Joe to once again provide them with music they can put on, listen to, be moved by and just enjoy.

The critics will eventually accept, and even with a little luck understand why Joe is so successful when he gets yet another gold disc!  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: mihi on January 26, 2012, 07:44:29 AM
He may even record the phonebook, in different styles, as long as he sings  :-)
but then again he would get criticized for not writing it himself :tease:
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Post by: joan46 on January 26, 2012, 10:06:27 AM
Nearly fell off my chair when I read that mihi   :D Your right about the did'nt write it bit   :D But boy could he sing it and make it sound great   :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Trudy on January 26, 2012, 02:08:40 PM
agree with marylou and hayley ---- joe cant afford to take risks really --- especially if they dont pay off --- joe still needs to  do songs that will sell too ------ and i also want  not safe-- but out of this world incredible --- which we also know joe can do --- we have heard him sing enough times to know how talented joe is -- and we trust the album will  be  out of this world. incredible  too .
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Post by: Susie D on January 26, 2012, 05:03:55 PM
I had the day off today whilst my car was serviced and watched my Dvd of Joe's X factor journey and then the PSTOS one, all fabulous performances. With the right song at the right moment and the right exposure, I think it will all turn round for Joe sales wise and popularity - just a matter of timing for Joe. Strong foundations have now been laid and it looks like everyone knows this fourth album is really key.

 :goodpost: My thoughts exactly - a couple of great lead tracks - with well supported radio play - would be all it takes.

I also believe that if he went abroad with the above he would do well too - as no one will have all the UK's pre- conceived ideas of an 'x factor' winner.  :) (You could argue that Joe has already had a couple of lucky breaks with X factor and PSTOS - but he really does deserve the opportunity of radio support with a great song). :pray:
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Post by: Susie D on January 26, 2012, 05:07:08 PM
agree with marylou and hayley ---- joe cant afford to take risks really --- especially if they dont pay off --- joe still needs to  do songs that will sell too ------ and i also want  not safe-- but out of this world incredible --- which we also know joe can do --- we have heard him sing enough times to know how talented joe is -- and we trust the album will  be  out of this world. incredible  too .

Also agree with you ladies too - unfortuantely Joe still can't afford to be too risky - perhaps thats why there was only one exclamation mark the other day from him - he is not allowed to be 'as wild and exciting ' as he would probably like to be!!!  (We know the type of music he likes to sing and listen too - and perhaps at 20 that is really what he would prefer to perform) :-)
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Post by: Trudy on January 26, 2012, 05:44:29 PM
susie d--- you hit the nail on the head --- joe is a 20 year old -- who probably wants to be wild / exciting etc --- maybe decca said joe can -- have some freedom  of music he likes but that  he also has to not be too risky  aswell --- cut a middle ground between the rock pop/ ballads / classics/ it would be good if joe had maybe less classic than on  classic/CC --- BUT  - still referenced them on album ---- some adele typed ballads and a bit of pop--- but its up to joe/ decca/ who no doubt have some great songs in mind --- and maybe a joe original--- and susied --- yes maybe only  one exclamation mark --- as joe cant be too risky right now. :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Liz on January 26, 2012, 05:46:37 PM
 :wave:  I agree that Joe can't afford to take risks with this album. This album isn't off the back of a TV show he's just won so he needs to build on the success started with Classic, and the people he gained as fans from PSTOS and Classic need to be kept there so I don't think this is the time to change things, perhaps just a nudge in the direction he wants to go in and some original material to gain more fans, more respect, a higher profile and bigger sales. I feel this album is so important and I feel the joy but I also feel the fear, not because I don't think Joe can do it but because it just has to be exactly right for this stage in his career, with the right single, promo and airplay he has to build and build on what he's started and lets face it he is only just starting on what we hope will be a wonderful lifelong career.
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Post by: Trudy on January 26, 2012, 06:15:06 PM
agree milliesmum :goodpost:
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Post by: Poppet68 on January 26, 2012, 09:29:37 PM
Agree this album has got to be right, it has to stand out above the rest, and be played on the radio. I agree with who ever said that Joe won't have a single number one, but I dream.  Please please please let this work for Joe
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on January 27, 2012, 12:28:05 AM
joe's tweet yesteray has made me feel so so excited for this album!!!
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Post by: Trudy on January 27, 2012, 01:28:25 AM
im also excited for album no4 :hurrah: :hurrah:
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Post by: Poppet68 on January 27, 2012, 11:02:15 AM
Me too  :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah:
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Post by: cassi on January 27, 2012, 11:07:09 AM
And me.  :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah:
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Post by: carm on January 27, 2012, 03:29:56 PM
So looking forward to it  :ilovejoe: :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Jaiden on January 27, 2012, 10:04:13 PM
I wonder which release date they are thinking about as its quite there already :) Maybe its gonna be like Wide Awake and a long process which I hope as it would mean theres gonna be a lot of thought and heart into it as it should...

I really hope he only does 2-3 covers if any. I want him to be known as an original artist not a cover singer. :) <3
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Post by: Sarah on January 27, 2012, 11:15:00 PM
I wonder which release date they are thinking about as its quite there already :) Maybe its gonna be like Wide Awake and a long process which I hope as it would mean theres gonna be a lot of thought and heart into it as it should...

I really hope he only does 2-3 covers if any. I want him to be known as an original artist not a cover singer. :) <3
Totally agree Jaiden.  :goodpost: I want new songs. And some ballads - Joe's a ballad king. Be good to have about 3 or 4 on his next album. I'm excited  :goofy:
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Post by: Jaiden on January 27, 2012, 11:21:15 PM
UYess! :D ANd I want a fierce ballad! you know what I mean? Like Rolling in the Deep? Or isnt that considered a ballad? Mmmm...
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Post by: Poppet68 on January 31, 2012, 06:58:55 PM
I would love original ballards, but would love Open Arms on the album, it is a lovely song
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Post by: Trudy on January 31, 2012, 07:06:26 PM
i too want some originals on album either written or co written by joe --- and expect this to be a great album 4.
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Post by: Sarah on January 31, 2012, 07:47:54 PM
I would love original ballards, but would love Open Arms on the album, it is a lovely song

One of my favourite songs that Joe sang....Makes me feel quite emotional though. Did anybody see the X Factor finalists from the 2008 series. The chap who's wife had died just after she had their daughter? He sang Open Arms as his saving song and I'll never forget it brought Louis to tears....He'd slated him throughout the show and i just remember thinking, "The first time you're in the bottom two, you'll be voted off by the judges". And then he sang that song and was kept in. It was amazing....and he dedicated it to his wife. When Joe sang it, it was just so emotional all over again. (Can't remember the chaps name sorry).
I'd love Joe to record it......Aswell as a power ballad like Rolling in The Deep Jaiden. Ha,ha xxxx
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Post by: mihi on January 31, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei4IqTvvVBU
or did you mean this one?? TWYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOWdH4MuOzg
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Post by: Jaiden on January 31, 2012, 07:52:09 PM
His audition made me cry :P...

btw everytime I see this thread i read I am number four.
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Post by: mihi on January 31, 2012, 07:53:11 PM
His audition made me cry :P...

btw everytime I see this thread i read I am number four.
too much movies for you young man  :tease:
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Post by: Sarah on January 31, 2012, 08:14:14 PM
Thank you sooooo much Mihi for those clips, which showed how confused i've been by the way, He,he. I knew Daniel had sang Open Arms and To Where You Are but got got them the wrong way round. But wasn't it brilliant to see the way Louis was turned by that last clip. Who could fail to be moved. The X Factor was so good back then and 2009......Then it all went downbank after that. I love looking back at these clips.....Brilliant. My other brilliant performance was Alexandra doing Listen. Now THAT'S a song Joe would excel at don't you think Jaiden  :-)
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Post by: Trudy on January 31, 2012, 08:28:49 PM
i prefer joes open arms/ to were you are -- to daniels ---- joe sings them beautifully --- dont think open arms on album 4 tho
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Post by: Jaiden on January 31, 2012, 08:34:02 PM
Listen for Joe? Ehm.. :p I dont know :P Maybe too much diva for him.. I have a think for coloured powerfull female voices... :P
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Post by: Trudy on January 31, 2012, 08:39:19 PM
you never know  wether joe could sing  LISTEN   really until we  would hear him sing it ---- joe can sing whitney  houston --- where do broken hearts go ( i loved that song by joe)--- and whitneys  a  diva too
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Post by: Hayley on February 01, 2012, 01:33:44 AM
I would love original ballards, but would love Open Arms on the album, it is a lovely song

One of my favourite songs that Joe sang....Makes me feel quite emotional though. Did anybody see the X Factor finalists from the 2008 series. The chap who's wife had died just after she had their daughter? He sang Open Arms as his saving song and I'll never forget it brought Louis to tears....He'd slated him throughout the show and i just remember thinking, "The first time you're in the bottom two, you'll be voted off by the judges". And then he sang that song and was kept in. It was amazing....and he dedicated it to his wife. When Joe sang it, it was just so emotional all over again. (Can't remember the chaps name sorry).
I'd love Joe to record it......Aswell as a power ballad like Rolling in The Deep Jaiden. Ha,ha xxxx

I never liked Daniel's version of Open Arms or any other song he sung on the show. 
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Post by: marylou on February 01, 2012, 01:15:10 PM
Agree Hayley.. a pleasant enough voice but when you hear Joe sing 'Open Arms' you realise theres 'singing' and then theres 'SINGING'....The incredible range and perfection of Joes voice  takes that song beyond ordinary and far exceeds even the original rendition... I had never heard a voice with such clarity and emotion before Joe came on the scene...and Ive heard a few!!!!! :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on February 01, 2012, 03:12:35 PM
Agree Hayley.. a pleasant enough voice but when you hear Joe sing 'Open Arms' you realise theres 'singing' and then theres 'SINGING'....The incredible range and perfection of Joes voice  takes that song beyond ordinary and far exceeds even the original rendition... I had never heard a voice with such clarity and emotion before Joe came on the scene...and Ive heard a few!!!!! :ilovejoe:

Me too  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: joan46 on February 01, 2012, 03:33:13 PM
Me three   :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Sug60 on February 01, 2012, 04:17:19 PM
Me four have to agree :ilovejoe: :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Trudy on February 01, 2012, 04:48:17 PM
me 5 too -- agree with hayley ------ neither of us bothered about daniels open arms --- but joe made it fantastic. :ilovejoe:
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Post by: cassi on February 01, 2012, 05:58:30 PM
I was never keen on Daniel either, Joe sing Open Arms so much better. :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Tacom on February 01, 2012, 06:00:25 PM
Well to be fair I understand why Sarah remembered that.
He did his best and put his emotions into that song.

But I have to agree, on terms of being a singer, he is quite poor.
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Post by: Trudy on February 01, 2012, 06:03:32 PM
agree tacom -- not only open arms but to were you are too  joe  sang both songs so much better than daniel.
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Post by: Tacom on February 01, 2012, 06:08:46 PM
What I was thinking that everyone was suprised by the fact that Joe sang 'Open Arms' as it was an "unknown" song.
I remember the discussion on other sites, and I blocked the fact that also Mariah Carey did that song, I only remembered the original version by Journey.
And know I see that in 2008 it was also sung by this Daniel  :tongue: Confused here.
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Post by: judetheobscure on February 01, 2012, 06:10:32 PM
To be fair to Daniel, it would be highly unlikely to find on here anyone who preferred his versions to Joe's  :haha:
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Post by: mihi on February 01, 2012, 06:12:02 PM
To be fair to Daniel, it would be highly unlikely to find on here anyone who preferred his versions to Joe's  :haha:
true, and I think it was the emotion of his version, not the quality of his singing ;)
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Post by: Trudy on February 01, 2012, 06:24:23 PM
it does seem funny tacom that on x factor they said ( simon aswell) to joe your mentor gave you an unknown song ---- and yet open arms was sang by daniel the year before joe with mariah  talking to daniel -- so the song was not unknown to xf then ------ anyway i just love joes voice singing it --- sorry was never keen on daniel --- even before i ever heard of joe  singing it.
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Post by: Tacom on February 01, 2012, 06:44:46 PM
True Trudy. I also loved Joe singing it, still do, it is one of the covers I really really like.

Showing what X-Factor is all about, they are lying through their teeth..everything is permitted to just make up stories. Cheryl got credit for finding that song...well she did not had to look very far did she... :rofl2:
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Post by: roec on February 01, 2012, 06:54:20 PM
I don't think Cheryl ever looked very far for her songs!!
The same songs appear on XF year after year......Purple Rain pretty much turns up every year!!
I couldn't stand Daniel Evans tbh :blush: Did feel sorry for him cause of his wife and stuff but really didn't like him :blush:
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Post by: Trudy on February 01, 2012, 07:02:35 PM
yes -- roec -- i never liked daniel at all --- felt sorry about wife ( altho thought daniel was on xf with that as a sob story to be honest) and when he was off xf --- it turned out he had two teenage kids-- around same age  as each other -- with 2 different mums ( got 2 women preggers at same time ) just not keen on the daniel.
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Post by: Poppet68 on February 01, 2012, 08:26:21 PM
Any song Joe sings, makes me feel like it is the first time anyone has ever sang it. Joe's performances are out of this world. At 20 years old I still can't beleive how wonderful he sings, he can only get better if that is possible. The future is bright the future if JOE  :ten:
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Post by: Trudy on February 01, 2012, 09:21:13 PM
yes and the future is joes album 4  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Sarah on February 01, 2012, 09:44:59 PM
To be fair to Daniel, it would be highly unlikely to find on here anyone who preferred his versions to Joe's  :haha:
true, and I think it was the emotion of his version, not the quality of his singing ;)

At last, you can see what I meant....I didn't say Daniel sang any of the songs better than Joe or anywhere near as good....But he dedicated them to his deceased wife...Thats the point I was making. The emotion and sentiment was very moving. 
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Post by: Tacom on February 01, 2012, 09:47:11 PM
and that is why you remembered it Sarah, I perfectly understand that. :)
Music is all about emotions.
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Post by: Sarah on February 01, 2012, 09:57:45 PM
and that is why you remembered it Sarah, I perfectly understand that. :)
Music is all about emotions.

Thanks Tacom. Think I'll go back to just reading posts rather than writing them....
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Post by: litcar on February 01, 2012, 10:00:26 PM
and that is why you remembered it Sarah, I perfectly understand that. :)
Music is all about emotions.

Thanks Tacom. Think I'll go back to just reading posts rather than writing them....

Why???? You said nothing wrong!!!
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Post by: Hayley on February 01, 2012, 10:01:47 PM
and that is why you remembered it Sarah, I perfectly understand that. :)
Music is all about emotions.

Thanks Tacom. Think I'll go back to just reading posts rather than writing them....

Oh no don't say that Sarah.  For me I don't personally like Daniel and to be honest I never felt moved by his performances, his voice or anything else.

But it's your opinion, you are perfectly entitled to have your say and it doesn't matter if people disagree, have your say.
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Post by: joefan43 on February 01, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
I was always a huge fan of Journey's version of OA and Joe is the only person that has done it justice in fact I love Joe's version more now TWYA I only like Joe's version of this even though you could see the emotion in Daniel's voice on this
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Post by: Trudy on February 01, 2012, 10:57:47 PM
sarah --- carry on writing  your opinions --- everyone has opinions --- alot of mine no one agrees with but i would  always give my opinion --- sorry dont like daniel ----- even if joe didnt sing open arms so great --- i wouldnt have liked daniels --- sorry sarah -- but carry on with your opinion/ posts / you deserve your say too.
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 01, 2012, 11:50:23 PM
i've never heard the orriginal of OA. chessie met daniel last year at a concert in spain. she said he was a really nice guy and he slipped her an album under the radar. :) gonna look up journey's version of OA. so excited for joe's next album though!!!
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Post by: Tacom on February 02, 2012, 06:07:10 PM
and that is why you remembered it Sarah, I perfectly understand that. :)
Music is all about emotions.

Thanks Tacom. Think I'll go back to just reading posts rather than writing them....

No  :-)  you are definately keep those posts coming!
I think everyone understood what you meant, but not all of us like Daniel's voice.

@ Jade  Here is the original: Journey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5pUOVC50Y8&ob=av2n
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Post by: Trudy on February 02, 2012, 06:17:12 PM
tacom -- i dont know much about journey -- but -- i have seen 2 different singers singing DSB ----- this one and an asian guy singer too ---- do you know anything about journeys 2 singers -- or why theres 2 singers at all?????? i just saw them on music channels ???? dont know journeys history tho -- so thats why i asked tacom.
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Post by: Tacom on February 02, 2012, 06:24:32 PM
Steve Perry is the original singer...the one singing Open Arms in the above clip.

In 1998 Steve Perry left and Journey got a new singer: Steve Augeri, who was dropped in 2005

Arnel Pineda is the current singer. Journey started looking for a new singer and Arnel had a youtube clip of him singing in his countrey, the Philippines.
They contacted him and he was hired.
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Post by: Tacom on February 02, 2012, 06:31:14 PM
Arnel's voice sounds remarkably like Steve Perry's voice, so that was a good choice.

Unfortunately Journey got a lot of slack and racist comments after hiring Arnel a Philippino.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUkksIV8dC8
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Post by: Trudy on February 02, 2012, 06:38:14 PM
yes thanks tacom :thankyou:  arnel pineda -- was the asian guy --- phillipines guy i saw too --- thanks for that tacom :thankyou: thought you would know .
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 02, 2012, 07:45:02 PM
thanks for posting tacom! i do like the orriginal, but prefer joe's version!
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Post by: Poppet68 on February 02, 2012, 09:40:02 PM
I have not heard another verison of a song that is better than Joe's
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Post by: Trudy on February 02, 2012, 09:41:22 PM
joes DSB is my fave too  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 03, 2012, 01:19:05 AM
agree with you poppet!
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Post by: Tacom on February 03, 2012, 06:07:45 PM
I have not heard another verison of a song that is better than Joe's

Of course I have that as well.

But... in the terms of songwriting, Journey has written quite some great songs, we as Joe fans would have to admit that :-)
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Post by: joefan43 on February 03, 2012, 11:12:39 PM
I'd love to hear Joe do a version of Who's Crying Now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDODb8rt9CQ

I noticed how similar Arnel was to Steve Perry vocally
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 04, 2012, 12:33:44 AM
i've not heard that song before, joefan43. :)
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Post by: s on February 04, 2012, 02:10:51 AM
I may get shot for this, but I'll risk it. I really don't want any version of any song from Joe for the time being. Just give us new material for gods sake!!
All those silly people have new songs and Joe is way better than them. He deserves new material, something that will be his and not his version of it!
please!!!!!  :pray:
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Post by: Trudy on February 04, 2012, 02:21:33 AM
no you wont get shot -- we want some joe originals too / and i hope joe writes his own song too -- if olly can write a song im sure joe can as his more creative than olly -- and more into music too -- joe originals are much needed
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Post by: Tacom on February 04, 2012, 07:58:06 AM
I am not one that shoots people that easily Sandy :-)

I agree...BUT I think Joe needs GREAT songs and unfortunately there are just not too many great songwriters.
Those silly people with new songs, I dont know who they are, but are those new songs also GREAT songs?

I will be a minority here, but I actually would not mind that he would record one or two GREAT covers.
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Post by: mihi on February 04, 2012, 08:13:26 AM
I am not one that shoots people that easily Sandy :-)

I agree...BUT I think Joe needs GREAT songs and unfortunately there are just not too many great songwriters.
Those silly people with new songs, I dont know who they are, but are those new songs also GREAT songs?

I will be a minority here, but I actually would not mind that he would record one or two GREAT covers.
1 or 2 is okay. But not an entire album and not as a first single please :pray:
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Post by: Tacom on February 04, 2012, 08:20:39 AM
 :wave: K.  :hurrah:

Well that first single has to be a knock out, so if a cover on his 4th album is that knock out song... I would not mind.
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Post by: mihi on February 04, 2012, 09:16:36 AM
:wave: K.  :hurrah:

Well that first single has to be a knock out, so if a cover on his 4th album is that knock out song... I would not mind.
Hi taco, hope you are well?
I agree, but I still would prefer an original knockout, seeing I want it to be a knockout album ;)
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Post by: Tacom on February 04, 2012, 09:36:34 AM
I am quite well, but cold the last days, I want spring to come!

Yes, knock out songs we want, of course we want the best for him.
But to be honest, personally for me, I am happy with any fourthcoming album, with or without covers.
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Post by: marylou on February 04, 2012, 09:47:01 AM
May I ask why he has to have a 'single'??...It would seem to me the mind set is you 'Have to have a'single' to be seen to be sucessful... well that may be true in the pop world but its not true in the wider music world.
For me its like the biblical saying of 'throwing pearls before swine' in subjecting Joe to the vaguries of the pop industry yet again.
I see no need for a single, unless he is hell bent on trying for that elusive hit number again.

I get the feeling that its believed that Joe will do it this time round.. if...and my god its a monumental big if.. he is given a well written, state of the art number that will firmly place him on the must play lists of the radio stations.

I dont think Im a defeatest on this issue more of a realist....

 I honestly think that Joe is better placed to carry on in his current path which we know is tried and tested than take chances that could so easily backfire.

Sadly, as its been shown earlier in Joes career.. having a good voice and a winning personality counts for little in that narrow and shallow world of  modern pop music!   

I also cannot understand as to why its felt, although it would be okay, he needs to have new material either. what is the reasoning behind it?? just his creditability?Is that all? as there are millions of  songs which are beautiful already out there and so deserve to be given the Joe touch.

I personally think I'm happy..and will buy... anything Joe records because he has such a beautiful voice,and I dont think Im alone in thinking this...he doesn't have to prove anything in my books, he is the ultimate, incredible singer and the rest will follow... :ilovejoe:
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Post by: queenie4joe on February 04, 2012, 10:12:41 AM
 :goodpost: marylou  wholeheartedly agree!!
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Post by: mihi on February 04, 2012, 10:18:42 AM
May I ask why he has to have a 'single'??...It would seem to me the mind set is you 'Have to have a'single' to be seen to be sucessful... well that may be true in the pop world but its not true in the wider music world.
For me its like the biblical saying of 'throwing pearls before swine' in subjecting Joe to the vaguries of the pop industry yet again.
I see no need for a single, unless he is hell bent on trying for that elusive hit number again.

I get the feeling that its believed that Joe will do it this time round.. if...and my god its a monumental big if.. he is given a well written, state of the art number that will firmly place him on the must play lists of the radio stations.

I dont think Im a defeatest on this issue more of a realist....

 I honestly think that Joe is better placed to carry on in his current path which we know is tried and tested than take chances that could so easily backfire.

Sadly, as its been shown earlier in Joes career.. having a good voice and a winning personality counts for little in that narrow and shallow world of  modern pop music!   

I also cannot understand as to why its felt, although it would be okay, he needs to have new material either. what is the reasoning behind it?? just his creditability?Is that all? as there are millions of  songs which are beautiful already out there and so deserve to be given the Joe touch.

I personally think I'm happy..and will buy... anything Joe records because he has such a beautiful voice,and I dont think Im alone in thinking this...he doesn't have to prove anything in my books, he is the ultimate, incredible singer and the rest will follow... :ilovejoe:
I am not saying he needs to have a single. I would be perfectly content with just the album. However 'they' have released a single (or video) from each album. So it lays in the line of expectation that they would this time ;)
I feel like I would buy his album anyway. But personally I would like to hear original songs. Though I agree there are a lot of beautiful songs out there. They have been sung, and though every song Joe does will sound better than the original(nearly every song), I would like him to bring something new. I like hearing new songs, because it is a new discovery, it is something you can listen to without expectations With a cover it always comes with expectations, it is a 'will he do it the way I want him to do it' experience to me. When the song is new, you can discover whether you like it, without expectations, and be prepared to be blown away. I can't really put it to words, but to me, selfish as it may be, it is the main reason I want new songs.
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Post by: Poppet68 on February 04, 2012, 10:57:13 AM
I think a number 1 album is worth so much more than a number one single. An album with original songs with a few wow covers would be great. If a single come out of it then it is a bonus but not the end of the world. I agree a video to promote the album would be good.

I pray that number 4 will be number ONE  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Tacom on February 04, 2012, 11:15:16 AM
I agree Marylou. :goodpost:

I love music, and I think I am generally orientated to music of all sorts.

On WA there were covers, none of them I heard before (and that includes the Climb..never heard that one before XF final)
I loved Joe doing Affirmation, although I know Savage Garden, I had not heard that song before.

I like Coldplay, I love the song CLocks. XFactor finalist Rochelle did her version...and I loved it, She totally made it HER song, and for me that counts. It was a knock out song in my opinion, being a cover in all.

We all want the best for Joe.
We all want him to get the recognition he so much deserves
We all have high expectations of this new album, but I dont want us to be disappointed when there are some covers on it. I am pretty sure there will be.
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Post by: s on February 04, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
:wave: K.  :hurrah:

Well that first single has to be a knock out, so if a cover on his 4th album is that knock out song... I would not mind.

like Ellie Goulding with Your Song? Of course many people didn't like her version, or maybe it's her voice that irritates them, but it was on the radio every 2 other tracks. Although we know that being on the radio doesn't mean much nowadays...

Doesn't Elton John write anymore? He could do a good job for Joe.
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Post by: Tacom on February 04, 2012, 11:31:12 AM
:wave: K.  :hurrah:

Well that first single has to be a knock out, so if a cover on his 4th album is that knock out song... I would not mind.

like Ellie Goulding with Your Song? Of course many people didn't like her version, or maybe it's her voice that irritates them, but it was on the radio every 2 other tracks. Although we know that being on the radio doesn't mean much nowadays...

Doesn't Elton John write anymore? He could do a good job for Joe.

Well she had a major succes with it, no matter what you think of her version of the song.

I would not mind Sir Elton to write for Joe... but the problem is he will keep his best songs for himself.
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Post by: s on February 04, 2012, 11:35:36 AM
 :D Tacom! Do you think he will keep the best songs for himself? Does he still sing? Haven't heard him in ages.
I think he would keep the songs that mean something to him, strongly, to himself. But if he knows he is writing for someone else, I'm sure he would put his heart into it too.

Regarding buying whatever Joe brings out there... well, I would probably buy a copy, but I don't think I will listen to it, if he starts doing hiphop and R&B and rap... all that in one album, and I would only buy it so it's one more sale...  :lol:
I guess it's pretty safe to say that he will not go in that direction.  :sarky:
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Post by: Tacom on February 04, 2012, 11:38:36 AM
Yes Sir Elton is still about, not as productive as years ago maybe but he is still at it.

He does write a lot of musical theatre you realise that? :-)
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Post by: judetheobscure on February 04, 2012, 11:41:38 AM
I want Joe to sing pop music (ballads, soft rock, r'n'b type) because I think he's better at it than he is at classical (pure classical that is, not crossover). I'm not that fond of "crossover" - I find it too ott and cliched. I'll buy anything Joe does (that goes without saying) but I would prefer him to do pop, release a hit single, get airplay like he deserves and have a long career like Elton John, George Michael etc. Shouldn't be too much to ask with talent like his.
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Post by: Tacom on February 04, 2012, 11:47:50 AM
I agree Jude.

SHould not be too much to ask, and should not be too difficult.
I am actually not that worried about any album he is making. Cross over or Pop.
I have only one demand. I want to hear that voice in every aspect. Highs and Lows, soft and Strong notes. If I get that I am satisfied. :-)
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Post by: s on February 04, 2012, 12:00:52 PM
Yes Sir Elton is still about, not as productive as years ago maybe but he is still at it.

He does write a lot of musical theatre you realise that? :-)

yeah!  :-)
so he is bound to bump into that little guy and write something suitable for him...  ;)
Musical Theatre. That will be nice  :thumbsup:
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Post by: s on February 04, 2012, 12:04:11 PM
I want Joe to sing pop music (ballads, soft rock, r'n'b type) because I think he's better at it than he is at classical (pure classical that is, not crossover). I'm not that fond of "crossover" - I find it too ott and cliched. I'll buy anything Joe does (that goes without saying) but I would prefer him to do pop, release a hit single, get airplay like he deserves and have a long career like Elton John, George Michael etc. Shouldn't be too much to ask with talent like his.

as we say in France, it should be done "fingers in the nose" (easily done).
But that's until you have the radio moguls around.
 
Has anyone had a number 1 album that was not played on the radio? I wonder.
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Post by: Trudy on February 04, 2012, 12:27:51 PM
i agree with tacom and  jude - :goodpost:- joe sings pop/ softrock/ ballads best / and i hope his album 4 gets to no 1 too ---  but i dont think he will have a single out --- joe didnt have a single outr last time with classic( he had videos as mihi said but not singles) i dont know what sort of album joes album 4 will be --- a killer album we all hope--- also  i so hope joe gets  some originals and  also maybe a couple of songs  written / co written by joe too --- i think joe deserves some original songs to be written for him --- people write for olly / matt/ rebecca/ etc why cant someone write for joe too -- after all joes voice is better than  all the rest especially LIVE  so i would love some originals written for joe maybe  as sandy said by  elton john --- i think elton could write for joes voice ( when was the last elton song i  remember he wrote for  billy eliot musical) anyway looking  forward to joes great album 4 . :ilovejoe:
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Post by: MEW on February 04, 2012, 01:33:40 PM
I may get shot for this, but I'll risk it. I really don't want any version of any song from Joe for the time being. Just give us new material for gods sake!!
All those silly people have new songs and Joe is way better than them. He deserves new material, something that will be his and not his version of it!
please!!!!!  :pray:
:goodpost:
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Post by: Jaiden on February 04, 2012, 01:35:19 PM
I may get shot for this, but I'll risk it. I really don't want any version of any song from Joe for the time being. Just give us new material for gods sake!!
All those silly people have new songs and Joe is way better than them. He deserves new material, something that will be his and not his version of it!
please!!!!!  :pray:
:goodpost:

 :goodpost: :thankyou: :yourock: :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Tacom on February 04, 2012, 02:32:13 PM
But what if Joe recorded a song like this? I have said it before because this song is really special to me, but its a perfect song for Joe I think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-8ez6dGao8&ob=av2n
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Post by: s on February 04, 2012, 02:37:05 PM
I would love him to sing a song like this one: sad but beautiful!!!
That's what we mean by big lush ballads, isn't it? That's why I would much prefer the album to be a pop album: so we can get some beautiful material like this one!!!!  :goofy:  :hurrah:
And I don't really like Michael Buble's version. It's too short. I like Joe because he has those long notes and the words just flow together to tell the story, while here, for me, Michael is just singing sentences one after the other, but because of the break between them, I don't follow the story.  :snigger:
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Post by: carisma on February 04, 2012, 03:00:34 PM
I'd like the writing team that did Wide Awake (the song) to do more stuff for Joe.  I think I am right in saying they have both been involved in writing for Kelly Clarkson and Daughtry ( I think one of them did the Daughtry  song that Westlife covered - What About Now) either together or solely (and if it is the same David Hodges he was also nominated for a Golden Globe with TAPFU). 

(but even if it is not the same guys I'd still like them to write for Joe  :rofl3:)
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Post by: Trudy on February 04, 2012, 06:13:20 PM
yes maybe somone like  david hodges maybe  could write  a great song for joe --- wide awake is a great song -- and kelly clarkson  has some good songs/  so someone like david hodges  would probably write a good song for joe ..
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Post by: Poppet68 on February 04, 2012, 07:53:23 PM
I need a fix of new material soon I really miss Joe not being on tour/tv.

I keep watching the classic tour over and over again. Please Decca find a great song writter and get our Joe in the recording stuido SOON  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Trudy on February 05, 2012, 12:48:15 AM
joe is meant to be in studio this month --- febuary.
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Post by: Poppet68 on February 05, 2012, 04:18:00 PM
Oh Trudy that's good news  :-)
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Post by: pumpkin queen on February 05, 2012, 06:32:33 PM
I may get shot for this, but I'll risk it. I really don't want any version of any song from Joe for the time being. Just give us new material for gods sake!!
All those silly people have new songs and Joe is way better than them. He deserves new material, something that will be his and not his version of it!
please!!!!!  :pray:
:goodpost:
Totally agree :thumbsup:
 :goodpost: :thankyou: :yourock: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on February 06, 2012, 02:41:59 PM
lisa_in_music Lisa
@joemcelderry91 You are going to strip back the 4th album and do it pretty much acoustically right? Great, I'll buy the whole lot :)
7 minutes ago
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Post by: Trudy on February 06, 2012, 02:47:02 PM
wonder if lisa knows this album 4 will be acoustic ????? if so thats what fans really wanted --- great --- if its like FIX  YOU  -- doubly great  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on February 06, 2012, 04:02:50 PM
Any album Joe does will be fantastic but an acoustic one will be out of this world OMG I do hope he does this  :hot:  :goofy:

Just imagine sitting at home alone with Joe's voice ringing around the room oh heaven. Just Joe nothing else needed
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 06, 2012, 04:14:45 PM
a stripped back album will be heaven!!!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joefan43 on February 06, 2012, 04:20:13 PM
An acoustic album from Joe will be just amazing I loved all his previous acoustic songs  :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 06, 2012, 04:26:28 PM
yes sarah -- i was wondering wether lisa had an idea joe would do  an accoustic styled album --- joes really good at his accoustics  -- think its what we expected from album 1 -- as joe had done several accoustics with russ then --- telephone / love the way you lie  etc --- fabulous -- and joes voice .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on February 06, 2012, 05:23:15 PM
Ooohh Acoustic, I am all for it... more of Joe...More Voice!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 06, 2012, 05:33:54 PM
tacom hayley would love joe to do accoustic album ----- dont know if he will but we hope so. --- hayley will LOVE FIX YOU  when she hears JOE singing it when home from work.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Anetto on February 06, 2012, 06:39:00 PM
Acoustic album? Just perfect. Just Joe. Just the voice!!! :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on February 06, 2012, 07:04:30 PM
lisa_in_music Lisa
@joemcelderry91 You are going to strip back the 4th album and do it pretty much acoustically right? Great, I'll buy the whole lot :)
7 minutes ago

I'm not sure if an acoustic or stripped album is the plan, I know Lisa would kill for that to happen.

But omfg, even a couple acoustic songs would be pure bliss.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on February 06, 2012, 09:08:48 PM
I think that could easily happen. Not necessarily with just one instrument accompanying but acoustic as in no electronics and stripped back.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on February 06, 2012, 09:23:07 PM
I think that could easily happen. Not necessarily with just one instrument accompanying but acoustic as in no electronics and stripped back.

Jude, I've seen the phrase 'stripped back' used over the years by different artists but sometimes they seem to be using it to mean different things. What's the correct musical description of 'stripped back'? I'd really be interested for your viewpoint.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on February 06, 2012, 09:44:02 PM
Hmmm - well my meaning is not having too many layers of sound. Just because you've got a few different instruments doesn't mean you have to use them all at once for example. You should be able to hear every individual strand of music. No big walls of sound. Whether that's "correct" or not I wouldn't know - it wasn't in any of the musical dictionaries I read as a student :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on February 06, 2012, 09:50:33 PM
Hmmm - well my meaning is not having too many layers of sound. Just because you've got a few different instruments doesn't mean you have to use them all at once for example. You should be able to hear every individual strand of music. No big walls of sound. Whether that's "correct" or not I wouldn't know - it wasn't in any of the musical dictionaries I read as a student :-)

Sounds good to me! Thanks!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on February 06, 2012, 11:25:01 PM
This whole idea is like water in a desert!  Wonderful!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 07, 2012, 01:13:40 AM
 yes if album 4 has more of joes voice like fix you  and some originals it will be great . :ilovejoe: wonderful.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 07, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
wonder if joe's got any more meetings coming up!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on February 07, 2012, 06:53:47 PM
I hope he starts recording soon, we need something to cheer us up with all this snow everywhere  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 07, 2012, 07:41:14 PM
well  joe said  recording in febuary --- maybe end of.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Caring mum on February 07, 2012, 09:58:10 PM
I voted for Joe in Xfactor, but simply adore him doing the classical stuff, thats when i became a real fan. I think he should listen to Rolando, he is young enough to learn more. He certainly works hard. Wish they had released dance with my father as a single. It is the very best rendition of that song ever. I am happy to buy a 2 cd recording. At least he's with a good record company. We should all sponsor Classic for a classical Brit award .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on February 07, 2012, 10:03:08 PM
 :welcome3: to the forum Caring mum.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on February 07, 2012, 10:05:15 PM
Hiya caring mum  :welcome2: to the Joe-Nuts  :welcome:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on February 07, 2012, 10:50:17 PM
Hi and  :welcome3: Caring mum,glad you have joined us. :wave:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 07, 2012, 11:28:41 PM
hi welcome :welcome2: caring mum
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 08, 2012, 10:36:42 AM
ooo, so excited by joe's tweets today!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 08, 2012, 12:37:24 PM
yes exciting -- hope joe has some really  great songs for album4
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: tinabee on February 08, 2012, 06:05:57 PM
 :welcome: Caring mum  :giverose:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on February 08, 2012, 06:26:19 PM
OK have looked for somewhere to post this - can a mod move it to the right place please

Its a dvd of Bent's Park selling on ebay? Do you know anything about it? and am I still on catch-up?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Joe-McElderry-Bents-Park-DVD-/140694290607?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_DVDs_DVDs_GL&hash=item20c20880af#ht_718wt_1270
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on February 08, 2012, 06:29:01 PM
OK have looked for somewhere to post this - can a mod move it to the right place please

Its a dvd of Bent's Park selling on ebay? Do you know anything about it? and am I still on catch-up?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Joe-McElderry-Bents-Park-DVD-/140694290607?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_DVDs_DVDs_GL&hash=item20c20880af#ht_718wt_1270
I've heard of it, it's just basically what the title and description says, it's by the same guy who did the X Factor and PSTOS DVDs. I think the videos are JoeMusicPromo's?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: excitedbyjoe on February 08, 2012, 06:40:47 PM
OK have looked for somewhere to post this - can a mod move it to the right place please

Its a dvd of Bent's Park selling on ebay? Do you know anything about it? and am I still on catch-up?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Joe-McElderry-Bents-Park-DVD-/140694290607?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_DVDs_DVDs_GL&hash=item20c20880af#ht_718wt_1270

I've bought it- it arrived in a few days and its very good.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 08, 2012, 07:04:36 PM
we had michelles dvds -- when we sponcered her -- and they were JMPs.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on February 08, 2012, 07:09:27 PM
 :welcome2:Caring Mum x

Trudy you do know there are 29 days in Feb I can't wait till the end of the month for Joe to start recording
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 08, 2012, 07:19:06 PM
yes 29 days--- we are on day 8 -- so we have  21 more days for feb to end --- so joe must be  recording ib the next 21 days poppet ---- patience is a virtue haahaa :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on February 08, 2012, 07:24:16 PM
The Bents Park video on ebay - amstereofan was given permission by JMP to use their videos.

For Classic Tour Addicted2Joe from JMP did the 2-set DVD in return for sponsorship for her TCT London Marathon run.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on February 08, 2012, 08:17:38 PM
Thanks everyone... :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: pumpkin queen on February 08, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
 Welcome Caring Mum :welcome2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 08, 2012, 09:17:39 PM
i've got a copy of the bents park dvd, it's great!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 08, 2012, 10:45:41 PM
after todays excited joe cant wait for album 4  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on February 11, 2012, 09:39:53 PM
Lets hope we get some more news next week regarding album 4
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on February 17, 2012, 02:05:18 PM
Mark Boardman @markmeets  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Singer @JoeMcElderry91 is getting ready to record his fourth studio album saying "It will surprise everyone"
Retweeted by pam evans

Not sure where he gets his info from though ;)
maybe an interview following somewhere.
We'll have to watch out.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on February 17, 2012, 02:09:44 PM
That's what he said about his first one too :D
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on February 17, 2012, 02:12:56 PM
well, it did!!!  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 17, 2012, 02:14:55 PM
i hope album 4 is a better suprise than album 1  WA -------- I HOPE THEY KEEP JOES VOICE ON THIS ALBUM --- IM SURE DECCA WILL MAKE ALBUM 4 FOR JOE  A GREAT SUPRISE.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on February 17, 2012, 02:32:51 PM
Mark Boardman @markmeets  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Singer @JoeMcElderry91 is getting ready to record his fourth studio album saying "It will surprise everyone"
Retweeted by pam evans

Not sure where he gets his info from though ;)
maybe an interview following somewhere.
We'll have to watch out.
We pretty much knew this anyway.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 17, 2012, 03:01:39 PM
thanks for posting! :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on February 17, 2012, 03:45:28 PM
Think the quote is probably from what we have already read, not pop not opera etc.

What Mark has missed our is that Joe said it will be a good surprise.  :D
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on February 17, 2012, 04:04:40 PM
MrCelebUK™ @MrCelebUK  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
X Factor winner and Singer @JoeMcElderry91 is getting ready to record his fourth studio album saying "It will surprise everyone

Has Joe been doing interviews or do these people just copy eachother?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on February 17, 2012, 04:07:38 PM
There seems to be so many of these online reporters these days it seems one grts an interview then all the others copy it just changing a word or so. They just scan the internet for stories much the same way as we do.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on February 17, 2012, 04:11:42 PM
There seems to be so many of these online reporters these days it seems one grts an interview then all the others copy it just changing a word or so. They just scan the internet for stories much the same way as we do.

The only difference is we don't get paid for it!!!!  :snigger: :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 17, 2012, 04:19:48 PM
yes and some of our reports are better than theres --- and noone gets paid
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on February 17, 2012, 05:08:29 PM
I'm dying to know what type of album Joe is doing now. Just can't wait for it whatever it is. Come on Joe, hurry up and record it. :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on February 17, 2012, 05:19:04 PM
Agree, can't wait  :hurrah: but I want it to be right, so if Joe takes a bit of time then thats ok. I will just have to wait
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 17, 2012, 05:35:49 PM
joes said his taking his time  with album 4. so its better to take time and make a good/ great/ brilliant/ killer album.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on February 17, 2012, 05:49:25 PM
Adam Lambert is delaying the release of his new album:

Adam Lambert @adamlambert  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Yes, the album release date has been pushed back. Working on some new songs, making the album even better! Thank you all for understanding.


it seems to be a trend lately... I hope Joe will be able to release his very soooooon ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on February 17, 2012, 05:51:45 PM
Adam Lambert is delaying the release of his new album:

Adam Lambert @adamlambert  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Yes, the album release date has been pushed back. Working on some new songs, making the album even better! Thank you all for understanding.


it seems to be a trend lately... I hope Joe will be able to release his very soooooon ;)

Sorry Sandy I must be out of touch who is he????
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on February 17, 2012, 06:00:17 PM
don't worry, I've only known of his existence for a couple of months only. He was in a serie of American Idol and is apparently quite popular ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on February 17, 2012, 06:24:22 PM
Tulisa's also delayed her solo album for the second time.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on February 17, 2012, 06:27:38 PM
well, I'm happy we don't have an exact date for Joe, not even a month, for the release of the album, because we might have to wait longer than we hoped if he follows the trend... :nervous:
Seems that he wants this album to be perfect, just like every other artist I suppose ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on February 17, 2012, 06:44:21 PM
We can wait for perfect  :-) just not too loooooooong  :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on February 17, 2012, 06:59:10 PM
I seem to be alone in this view but don't want a new album from Joe 'very soon' at all. We've had not one but TWO albums in quick succession in just 6 months. If album no 4 is out before summer I think I'm going to be  extremely disappointed  :(

I want this album to be his first 'grand opus' as it were - let it take as long as it takes is my motto!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on February 17, 2012, 07:02:31 PM
why? if they have been working on songs since January, or maybe before, i don't see why it would not be out in June for example. 6 months is a long time.
i don't think the longer you take for an album, the better it is.
If it's ready, get it out.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JazDarcy on February 17, 2012, 07:06:31 PM
I seem to be alone in this view but don't want a new album from Joe 'very soon' at all. We've had not one but TWO albums in quick succession in just 6 months. If album no 4 is out before summer I think I'm going to be  extremely disappointed  :(

I want this album to be his first 'grand opus' as it were - let it take as long as it takes is my motto!

I think we're looking at summer for this album too. Completely worth the wait and its a good time for charts as album sales tend to be a bit lower in general (compared to winter anyways). They might have been working on songs since january but they might continue to do so for a while to make sure they get everything right. It can take one day to write a brilliant song or it can take weeks.

 They could take their time recording this time, a month or maybe two in the studio, recording different songs and making sure its all perfect. Then post production shouldn't take long because they don't need to alter Joe's voice, just mix the tracks. Then a month or so's good promo, that would take us well into summer.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on February 17, 2012, 07:09:48 PM
Tulisa's also delayed her solo album for the second time.
when is it out now? thought the original release date was summer time?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on February 17, 2012, 07:24:03 PM
You're not alone at all Blue Angel :)
I'm completely with you there, i want Joe & the label to take their time with this, find some great songs & not rush the the recording!
& i'm sure it will be worth the wait! :cool:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on February 17, 2012, 07:30:32 PM
Mark Boardman @markmeets  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Singer @JoeMcElderry91 is getting ready to record his fourth studio album saying "It will surprise everyone"Retweeted by pam evans

Not sure where he gets his info from though ;)
maybe an interview following somewhere.
We'll have to watch out.

Perhaps a collaboration or two?!!!!!!!!!!

I agree that it will take time to record this album and get the marketing strategy right.  (We have been spoilt with the last two. :wink:)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 17, 2012, 07:50:46 PM
i just know that whenever it's released, the album will be fab!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on February 17, 2012, 07:51:11 PM
I'm with BlueAngel and others. It doesn't take too much time to put together an album of covers/standards/popular numbers. It takes longer to do something more original. Writing good songs and finding good songs can take many months, as other artists are proving.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on February 17, 2012, 07:51:35 PM
Tulisa's also delayed her solo album for the second time.
when is it out now? thought the original release date was summer time?
The original release was March, they pushed it back to may and now it's December 31.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 17, 2012, 07:54:54 PM
good if joe album 4 is out  in summer --- but i want  it to be a great brilliant album so joe can take  his time to make it  perfect
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on February 17, 2012, 07:56:39 PM
Yes perfection is worth waiting for
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on February 17, 2012, 07:57:52 PM
You're not alone at all Blue Angel :)
I'm completely with you there, i want Joe & the label to take their time with this, find some great songs & not rush the the recording!
& i'm sure it will be worth the wait! :cool:

So do I. Not referring to the time of recording or working on songs necessarily, but yes I do want album 4 to be perfect regardless of the time it takes, I want Joe and the label to take their time on it and come back with the best album they can.  I don't want it rushed and I don't want it soon.  Joe's sooooooon is fine by me.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on February 17, 2012, 07:59:35 PM
I'm hoping for summer too, not to rushed, not too delayed, and right in the middle of when I have no college and no work to worry about. :cool2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on February 17, 2012, 08:01:15 PM
then he can get a number one as there are not many releases in the summer.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 17, 2012, 08:07:14 PM
i am with blue angel tho - in the fact that i want  the album so perfect it  doesnt matter how long it takes --- joe needs perfect. so hope they take time to make it perfect
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 17, 2012, 08:13:04 PM
a summer release would be great! No college, no work, no stress!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on February 17, 2012, 08:16:02 PM
Tulisa's also delayed her solo album for the second time.
when is it out now? thought the original release date was summer time?
The original release was March, they pushed it back to may and now it's December 31.
Makes sense, gives her probably a XF spot to promote..
Hoping for a single sooner though
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on February 17, 2012, 08:52:36 PM
Well Joe's sooooooon is fine by me as well .I am sure Joe and the label won't release until they have it spot on.As you say perfection is worth waiting for and we are used to waiting are'nt we  :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on February 17, 2012, 09:15:18 PM
Anytime will do me so long as they give a release date and stick to it! All these delays for other artists look distinctly dodgy to their fans  & give other artists' fans bones to chew on.

So one date for release and Go Joe!  only when its good & ready.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: queenie4joe on February 17, 2012, 11:09:59 PM
I'm happy to wait for as long as it takes!
 As far as any of us know, Joe  and the record label may have been looking for suitable material for this Album since the very beginning? and  Classic and CC were just ' fill-ins' to keep Joe in the public eye until the release of No. 4!!   :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on February 17, 2012, 11:24:55 PM
I will be happy however long it takes because I want it to be perfect, and it being Joe it will be, don't think he'll settle for anything less. :) :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 18, 2012, 01:34:12 AM
definatly  gotta be perfect for joe --- and take as long as he likes as long as  its one date and no delays --- and well all be fine -- cant wait for album no 4. :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on February 18, 2012, 03:20:46 AM
I'm happy to wait for as long as it takes!
 As far as any of us know, Joe  and the record label may have been looking for suitable material for this Album since the very beginning? and  Classic and CC were just ' fill-ins' to keep Joe in the public eye until the release of No. 4!!   :)

Possibly Queenie.  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: kanga samps on February 18, 2012, 07:56:36 AM
I'm happy to wait for as long as it takes!
 As far as any of us know, Joe  and the record label may have been looking for suitable material for this Album since the very beginning? and  Classic and CC were just ' fill-ins' to keep Joe in the public eye until the release of No. 4!!   :)

Possibly Queenie.  :hurrah:

Yes - I think this is the 'one' in album terms and like most of you, I'm happy to wait for this, as long as it takes.

I've also thought that Joe has probably been putting his own thoughts on paper,  i.e starting to write songs since his first album. There was a post from someone supposedly 'in on the music business' on digital spy JMSAT before Wide Awake, saying that Joe was writing and his attempts were good. I have no idea if that person knew anymore than the rest of us, but feel sure that if Joe wanted to try songwriting he would have begun in earnest then and is now confident enough of his own abilities ( and Ash's ) to acknowledge it.

He is 'Mr perfectionist' after all. LOL  ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 18, 2012, 08:19:46 AM
that's interesting, thanks for the info kanga. :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on February 18, 2012, 08:44:52 AM
I do agree with you about Joe should take his take to get the album right, however I hope its not so long that he is forgotten about, like whats happened to other artists.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on February 18, 2012, 08:50:09 AM
I do agree with you about Joe should take his take to get the album right, however I hope its not so long that he is forgotten about, like whats happened to other artists.

Yes I don't us to have to wait years, but I think that is very unlikely as Joe has said about possibly touring at the end of the year.

Alot of the GP have kinda forgotten about Joe anyways to be fair. If he came back with a killer album people may have to take notice.
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Post by: KR51 on February 18, 2012, 09:00:05 AM
I do agree with you about Joe should take his take to get the album right, however I hope its not so long that he is forgotten about, like whats happened to other artists.

Yes I don't us to have to wait years, but I think that is very unlikely as Joe has said about possibly touring at the end of the year.

Alot of the GP have kinda forgotten about Joe anyways to be fair. If he came back with a killer album people may have to take notice.

Love this bit in bold Hayley  :rofl3: :rofl3:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Anetto on February 18, 2012, 09:53:42 AM
I think Joe will probably release album No 4 sometime in the Summer. He will have been working on its content for some time and although he says he wrote 2 songs with Ash he other day, he has probably written many more that we don't know about. It doesn't really matter how long it takes we all know it will be fab but on the other hand we don't want to wait for what seems forever like with WA. 
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Post by: Poppet68 on February 18, 2012, 11:02:44 AM
As long as he keeps us posted then thats fine its the not knowing that drives me mad  :bash:
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Post by: Anetto on February 18, 2012, 11:34:16 AM
Agree Poppet, he seems to have been fairly quiet recently. Maybe he feels it is better to be secretive than to give out too many clues but we are so impatient for news!!
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Post by: marylou on February 18, 2012, 03:07:38 PM
Its certainly good news to see he is ready to start recording  album 4.. God knows I desperately want to play something new ..as much as I love everything hes done to date.

Its the worst kind of waiting for me as we have not the slightest idea as to what will be on it..Hes says we are to be surprised..
Am I the only one who is filled with trepidation at the thought of album 4 being a surprise??
 
Its almost painful, this waiting.. and as he has dipped his toes in so many different genres over the last couple of years I just have no idea as to what is coming!!

Bearing in mind his first album was one hell of a surprise and his 2nd one was off the back of his PSTOS success and his Christmas one addressed the Festive season..what is this 4th one to be..?

And how do you continue to appeal across generations , which he has managed to do up to this point, if you introduce a radical new Album?? Is he going to take a chance or go along the same path??

Regardless of it coming out next month or in six months time the quality of the content this time has to be as others say 'Spot On.'

But I still worry..my feelings of being a mother hen coming to the fore repeatedly.. There is so much hanging on this Album and I want it to be outstanding in everyway.

I know Decca will work with Joe to produce a great piece of work...  but I'm still apprehensive!!   :nervous:                                                                               :ilovejoe:                 





Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on February 18, 2012, 03:35:34 PM
I agree to a certain extent because although I know Joe is a hard headed lad for his age, he can also enjoy taking chances, challenges..... doing something new and different appeals to that side of him - and of course we know its balanced with his recordings/performances to date.

Anyone 'hearing' him anew will maybe judge only this album - or perhaps the old saying 'you're only as good as your last album' might be thrown around.

I have faith in the lad........ & Decca....... to produce a record we will  love - added to the body of work already under his belt.

We need a killer album for the general public and critics.  I think its perfectly possible & highly likely, but I still have a nervous tummy  :-)

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Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 18, 2012, 03:50:31 PM
I agree with your post ping!
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Post by: judetheobscure on February 18, 2012, 03:56:01 PM
And how do you continue to appeal across generations , which he has managed to do up to this point, if you introduce a radical new Album?? Is he going to take a chance or go along the same path??

This is an interesting observation. I would suggest, that other than his loyal fans, his last two albums did not have cross-generational appeal. There were and are certainly many former fans who didn't like the move to crossover and classical and are asking him to move back to pop so they can reconnect again. But of course if he does that he may alienate the fans he picked up from PtoO.

We know from some press article that someone ferreted out quite a while back, that some record labels see crossover as a big up-and-coming market, with potential to reach out to younger fans through it. So I wonder if album no.4 will be predominantly pop - to bring the younger ones back in - but with a smattering of crossover and/or classical -to keep the older fans on board - and maybe some attempt to blur the boundaries a bit.
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Post by: cassi on February 18, 2012, 04:05:58 PM
Didn't Joe say in an article a couple of weeks ago that the album would be a surprise but a nice surprise, and' just Joe 'was how he put it. So I am expecting some thing along the lines of  SOTR, TWYR, Home, Affermation with a spattering of upbeat songs. I might be totally on the wrong track. :D :D
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on February 18, 2012, 04:21:34 PM
So generally speaking we haven't got a clue.......  :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on February 18, 2012, 04:33:59 PM
And how do you continue to appeal across generations , which he has managed to do up to this point, if you introduce a radical new Album?? Is he going to take a chance or go along the same path??

This is an interesting observation. I would suggest, that other than his loyal fans, his last two albums did not have cross-generational appeal. There were and are certainly many former fans who didn't like the move to crossover and classical and are asking him to move back to pop so they can reconnect again. But of course if he does that he may alienate the fans he picked up from PtoO.

We know from some press article that someone ferreted out quite a while back, that some record labels see crossover as a big up-and-coming market, with potential to reach out to younger fans through it. So I wonder if album no.4 will be predominantly pop - to bring the younger ones back in - but with a smattering of crossover and/or classical -to keep the older fans on board - and maybe some attempt to blur the boundaries a bit.

I like that very much!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on February 18, 2012, 05:13:39 PM
Good post Jude, Annie & Marylou.

You could have a point Jude, Joe has said the next album won't be classical, whether that means it will be a mix between the two who knows. I am worried about Joe alienating his Pstos fans. I'm nervous about the sound & songs of this album.

We are all hoping it will be a killer album & that in itself is alot of pressure & a high standard to live up too.

We don't know for sure "Just Joe" actually means, he has already dipped his toes in so many pools & he lives such varied styles of music. Who knows, fingers crossed it's a good one.  :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sug60 on February 18, 2012, 06:50:13 PM
It doesn't matter how long it takes for me Decca and Joe will get this album perfect and we all know what a perfectionist our Joe is. This is going to be a special album but to be honest i do not know what type of songs will be on it i do hope there will be something on it that Joe has helped write but he won't let us down and will know just what he wants on this album. So even if release date is the summer it would be a good time to bring this album out but we will be waiting with so much excitement for release date lets hope Joe won't say sooooon as that could be anytime. :ilovejoe: :decca:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on February 18, 2012, 09:43:54 PM
Joe has mentioned hopefully a tour later in the year, later than August prob now he's doing New brighton gig so poss sept/oct and that'll be to promote new album so maybe that'll be out July/Aug???????? Or maybe before Olympics if we are lucky, but I can wait longer till Aug/sept for a stonker of an album.  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 19, 2012, 12:14:06 AM
i have afeeling  that the tour maybe  around sept/ oct/ nov really  as the  album will be out probably august maybe --- we want it perfect so no rush  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joefan43 on February 19, 2012, 12:33:50 AM
There have some interesting points made about this album It would be great if it was released in time for the Olympics and Joe is asked to perform at either the opening or closing ceremonies
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 19, 2012, 01:00:40 AM
really not sure joe will sing at olympics .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Anetto on February 19, 2012, 09:43:01 AM
It doesn't matter how long we have to wait for this album. Joe and Decca need to get it spot on and we know Joe is a perfectionist so it is going to be absolutely fantastic.  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 19, 2012, 12:21:49 PM
yes i so want album no 4 to be perfect --- doesnt matter how long it takes
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on February 19, 2012, 02:43:16 PM
Good post Jude, Annie & Marylou.

You could have a point Jude, Joe has said the next album won't be classical, whether that means it will be a mix between the two who knows. I am worried about Joe alienating his Pstos fans. I'm nervous about the sound & songs of this album.

We are all hoping it will be a killer album & that in itself is alot of pressure & a high standard to live up too.

We don't know for sure "Just Joe" actually means, he has already dipped his toes in so many pools & he lives such varied styles of music. Who knows, fingers crossed it's a good one.  :goofy:

I know how you are feeling Hayley.  I'm sure everything will be just fantastic but I understand how so many of us are having our concerns. (All I know is whatever happens Joe will be working in this industry for a long, long time somewhere out there doing the very thing he enjoys the most - performing. ;))
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 19, 2012, 03:05:17 PM
 susied --- sure joes album 4 will be great --- whatever style joe chooses --- im sure --- it will be different to WA / classic in a good way.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 19, 2012, 11:31:55 PM
I reckon album 4 will be a nice mixture between the 2. :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on February 20, 2012, 02:53:39 PM
Album out in September acording to Tweets yeah  :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 20, 2012, 02:56:58 PM
yes album out around sept ---------- EXCITED  :excite: :excite: :excite: :excite: :excite: :excite:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 20, 2012, 02:58:13 PM
:) this is great!!!!!
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Post by: Susie D on February 20, 2012, 03:00:09 PM
Great news - now all we have to do is be patient!!! (I guess its only six months between now and a single release? - so not long really :-))
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Post by: orchid on February 20, 2012, 03:22:53 PM
I am so pleased to hear the albums going to be out about September before all the X Factor rush and not before the Olympics.   I agree with you all  that it's an ideal time.
It shows  everyone that Joe's going to take his time and produce a well thought out album with the possibility of some of his own songs on it. :)

Can't Wait. :) :party:
 

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Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 20, 2012, 03:23:18 PM
joe's tweets have made me feel so so so happy! :) :) i'm sitting here with a huge smile on my face! :)
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Post by: joan46 on February 20, 2012, 03:27:50 PM
He knows how to make us all happy I am grinning from ear to ear here . Hey that rhymed  :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on February 20, 2012, 04:58:41 PM
Yes this will be worth waiting for  :-)  :-)  :-) I am not smiling really.


I BET  JOE IS ALL  :dance2:  :excite:  :dance2: :party:  :excite:  :dance2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on February 20, 2012, 05:13:20 PM
Such a long time to wait  :( .... but of course that means a lot of thought is going into this album  :yes: :yes:

Let's just hope there are some gigs to keep us going please Joe  :pray:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on February 20, 2012, 05:20:19 PM
Great that we've heard some more news about the album, just abit sorry he'll not be gigging much this summer.   :cry:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 20, 2012, 05:34:20 PM
kr51--- joe said he will fit some gigs in too --- but he does need time for this killer album  i guess
:hurrah: :goofy: :ten: :excite:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on February 20, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
Agree, but I am sure there will be a few, Joe loves performing and I am sure if he can, he will
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on February 20, 2012, 05:52:15 PM
Great that we've heard some more news about the album, just abit sorry he'll not be gigging much this summer.   :cry:

That was my thought too Karen - not that I'd probably get to see him anyway, but Joe loves performing.  Oh well, maybe a cheaper year for some  :rofl2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 20, 2012, 06:00:50 PM
joe loved performing  we all know he does but this album is important so joe maybe has to fit gigs around it this time -- im sure joe will gig aswell maybe just not as much tho --- yes carisma --- a cheaper year for some--- but this album will be worth it im sure  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Anetto on February 20, 2012, 06:20:04 PM
This album is very important for Joe and he wants to get it spot on (which we know he will). Pity he won't be doing as many gigs as he loves performing but maybe there will be another tour at the end of the year. :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sug60 on February 20, 2012, 06:59:53 PM
Joe is putting so much into this album he really wants it to be a killer and that is what we will get.As long as we see him now and then on tv appearances and hopefully more gigs we will all be happy and then of course tour No. 2 later in the year that would be wonderful. I wonder what this album will be called!  :ilovejoe: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 21, 2012, 12:09:02 AM
hmmm, i wonder what the album will be called? :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 21, 2012, 12:34:28 AM
JUST JOE   SIMPLY JOE          JOE
:choir3: :balloons:
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Post by: Poppet68 on February 21, 2012, 09:52:50 AM


Good one  :balloons:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 21, 2012, 04:00:32 PM
joe will probably have a great name --- something more inventive than -- just joe / simply joe/ joe /
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on February 21, 2012, 04:03:57 PM
Introducing...
                    Joe McElderry
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Post by: MEW on February 21, 2012, 05:01:24 PM
Self titled. :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 21, 2012, 05:40:54 PM
id really like joe to have a great catchy name --- nothing like just joe -- i only said that as  joe said album would be just joe --- hope joe picks a great name. :choir3:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on February 21, 2012, 09:31:52 PM
 :) Sincerely Joe.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 22, 2012, 01:42:24 AM
maybe quite inventive with nothing about joe
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on February 22, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
He could go for 'Album Four'!  :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Anetto on February 22, 2012, 01:16:53 PM
He may choose a title relating to one of the tracks on it.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: liz7574 on February 22, 2012, 01:38:39 PM
I think Joe has a good relationship with Decca and between them will come up with
a great album. Personally I would like a varirty of old and new,pop and classical
but they know best and I trust this partnership. I don't mind the wait as this shows how seriously they are trying to get it just right.

Album No 4 straight to No 1
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on February 22, 2012, 01:38:50 PM
He could go for 'Album Four'!  :lol:
Or like
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2imb03q.jpg)
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on February 22, 2012, 01:43:37 PM
Oh I like that one - and no-one would have to use a crowbar to get his phone of his hand for the photoshoot!!!! :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on February 22, 2012, 05:11:16 PM
He could go for 'Album Four'!  :lol:


4.................seems to work for Adele :D
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on February 22, 2012, 05:12:17 PM
He could go for 'Album Four'!  :lol:


4.................seems to work for Adele :D
and Beyonce. ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 22, 2012, 05:22:12 PM
maybe 4 --- could be aname --- but im thinking maybe a song name  :balloons:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on February 22, 2012, 05:24:08 PM
or going with the sleep theme we had wide awake, RLST etc. nessun dorma
The Dream
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Post by: Trudy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:10 PM
thats good name mihi --- the dream --- cos its joes dream :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 22, 2012, 05:27:09 PM
the dream, i like it!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on February 22, 2012, 07:53:10 PM
4 would emphasise to people that he's already on album 4  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on February 22, 2012, 07:58:07 PM
4 would emphasise to people that he's already on album 4  :-)
but that would be so Beyonce :tease:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on February 22, 2012, 08:06:47 PM
True

 just to say:
This is the true Joe!
and yes it's true, this is my 4th album and I wrote songs on it too
and yes it's true, I'm a credible artist and it is also true that I am here to stay

 :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on February 22, 2012, 08:07:33 PM
True

 just to say:
This is the true Joe!
and yes it's true, this is my 4th album and I wrote songs on it too
and yes it's true, I'm a credible artist and it is also true that I am here to stay

 :haha:
and let me guess, with a cover of true?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on February 22, 2012, 08:09:32 PM
huh huh huh huh hu hu

 :choir3:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on February 22, 2012, 08:50:05 PM
He likes Italian - numero quattro?

But I like True as well - he hits true notes too......

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on February 22, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
4 would emphasise to people that he's already on album 4  :-)
but that would be so Beyonce :tease:
Maybe wait for album number 5 so he can call that 5. :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 22, 2012, 09:33:12 PM
after joe's tweet earlier, i'm dying to hear what he's wrote!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 22, 2012, 11:36:20 PM
TRUE -- IS A GREAT NAME TOO SANDY  :wavehat: :balloons:


also cant wait to see if we hear joes own songs  :wavehat: :balloons:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: tinabee on February 23, 2012, 12:06:09 AM
What about   "IV"  roman numerals for 4.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on February 23, 2012, 12:29:56 AM
IV -  is that one finger + 2 fingers tinabee?  :shock1: :blush: :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 23, 2012, 01:12:06 AM
that was sooo  funny ping  :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 23, 2012, 07:51:33 AM
something tells me joe's gonna write some good songs today!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 23, 2012, 12:44:42 PM
well at least it looks like joe will have quite alot of songs to  choose from :choir3:
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Post by: KR51 on February 23, 2012, 01:00:41 PM
Who will have the ultimate say which songs go on the album.  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 23, 2012, 01:07:01 PM
decca most likley  kr51 --- but --- i would say joe  will have a say in it too like what songs  are put forward for album maybe --- a joint effort hopefully --- thats why it will take longer  i would think also depends how many joes self penned songs get on album .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: tinabee on February 23, 2012, 01:56:47 PM
IV -  is that one finger + 2 fingers tinabee?  :shock1: :blush: :lol:
Yes, it can also be a message to simon cowell 'cos that's what he'll be getting from us when this album is a huge success worldwide. :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 23, 2012, 02:05:10 PM
yes --- maybe call album VICTORY----- AND GIVE A WINSTON CHURCHILL 2 FINGER VICTORY SALUTE TO COWELL -- tinabee  :wavehat: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 23, 2012, 03:41:34 PM
joe's weets are making me more and more excited for the album!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on February 23, 2012, 05:10:26 PM
wooopy --- exciting  :choir3: :ten: :balloons:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 26, 2012, 04:45:22 PM
HOPE JOE HAS FUN DOING MORE STUFF FOR THE ALBUM TODAY!!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on February 26, 2012, 04:47:53 PM
^^ Think you've got your caps lock stuck Jade  :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: dorinaRO on February 26, 2012, 05:01:01 PM
I wonder who is he working with that could not schedule in a week day. or am I looking into this to much?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on February 26, 2012, 05:08:56 PM
oops, think it's fixed now. :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on February 26, 2012, 05:23:43 PM
Couple of  thoughts on album #4 following the interview (which I think has now been removed).  Joe said there was going to be no opera on it, but he said at the start of ND last night that it was the last opera song (aria  ;)) that he was going to sing (last night).  I assume from that that there will be album no 4 will not have any classic stuff on it.

I also wonder if the Just Joe reference which he has mentioned a few times means it will be more an acoustic album than anything else

Just a few thoughts ....
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on February 26, 2012, 05:49:45 PM
Judging by last night's performance, as I said on the sage thread, it is clear that joe is not going towards classical. He is so confident when doing the pop stuff! I was hoping before that he would go back to pop and I am happy that although he has not confirmed pop he said there would be no opera.
I think acoustic is very possible but not a full album. Definitely some big lush love ballads in there. He totally is living the words of those songs!
CANNOT WAIT!!!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on February 26, 2012, 06:01:21 PM
Couple of  thoughts on album #4 following the interview (which I think has now been removed).  Joe said there was going to be no opera on it, but he said at the start of ND last night that it was the last opera song (aria  ;)) that he was going to sing (last night).  I assume from that that there will be album no 4 will not have any classic stuff on it.

I also wander if the Just Joe reference which he has mentioned a few times means it will be more an acoustic album than anything else

Just a few thoughts ....

Yep, I agree.  I wondered whether the "Just Joe" reference has a hidden meaning or clue, or maybe thats going to be the album title.  Not that I am keen on that being the title lol.
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Post by: s on February 26, 2012, 06:06:28 PM
 :snigger: wouldn't like that as a title either. I hear this as if it would say that it's just Joe as it's nothing special, it's just Joe. And it hopefully will be something special, so the title wouldn't fit ;)
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Post by: mihi on February 26, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
:snigger: wouldn't like that as a title either. I hear this as if it would say that it's just Joe as it's nothing special, it's just Joe. And it hopefully will be something special, so the title wouldn't fit ;)
but just joe is special :P
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Post by: Tacom on February 26, 2012, 06:24:50 PM
I agree too... but... having heard that stunning voice again on CDT and ND again like yesterday, I have to say that Album No4 also has to have BIG ballads if it is to be a pop or acoustic album.
EVERYONE is WOW-ed by his voice when he belts out those gorgeous strong notes, we definately need them!
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Post by: louisew on February 26, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
Joe is giving us a drip drip of info for album 4 isn't he. Bet he is bursting to tell all!! I'm pleased to hear that there isn't going to be any opera - so am VERY excited now  :hurrah:   :goofy:  pop/acoustic for me please!!!!   :) :)
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Post by: Trudy on February 27, 2012, 01:40:27 AM
maybe he means just joe --- as mainly just joes VOICE -- with no big orchestras etc ------ a bit like adele style songs are mainly her VOICE this well be mainly JOES VOICE maybe stripped back as they say --- if its like juke box joe his voice was WOW  last night at sage.-- yes big ballads -- if its good for adele its good for joe -- as i think adele has a beautiful voice but joes is more beautiful by far. :wavehat: :balloons: :ilovejoe:
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Post by: johntyjack on March 02, 2012, 10:53:04 AM
Cant imagine what Joe will do next......his albums have been so diverse.....I just hope it will be more about his voice than the backing....as far as I'm concerned "Wide Awake" was a huge diservice to his voice  (Tho I play it, to get my fix).  I have all three albums but play the dvd's of X Factor and  Pop to op most because we see the glorious lad in motion.  Last week in Gateshead was a revelation in terms of his development since I saw him four months earlier in Nottingham.  He's got to be the next superstar.  Mad About The Boy.
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Post by: Trudy on March 02, 2012, 12:57:17 PM
agree jonty jack --- we are all mad about the boy --- thats why  we are the joenuts
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Post by: s on March 02, 2012, 01:08:43 PM
what is best?
being the next superstar and fall from the sky like a broken rocket, or taking it slowly and making music you love and reaching your goal of success with experience?

I don't agree that Joe must be the next superstar. I also thought that way, because he deserves to be up there with the big names. But I now think that if this album is not the killer album we want it to be, then it won't be a big deal. I think it should give him more coverage, he will be talked about more hopefully and in a positive way because he will have written songs for it. It will be original material and he will be taken seriously.
If it takes another 8 years for him to get that killer album, so be it.

Look at Ed Sheeran. He hasn't started yesterday, has he? His first EP was out in 2005 apparently. Slowly he got up and did as many gigs as possible, sharing his love of music and singing for who wanted to listen.
Joe has a different career as he started in the public eye. But it doesn't mean that he has to be a huge success tomorrow. He is here to stay and he's only 20.
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Post by: Trudy on March 02, 2012, 01:28:08 PM
agree sandy i want joe to  take it slow and make it in this business  and be a sucess with experiance ---- joe has  grown  so much in the years  we have loved joe --- he was only 18 years old when hayley liked him and first saw him his 21 yeras old this year and his getting better and better every time we all see him ---- i want joe to have longevity --- i dont want  him  to just be a superstar  that crashes after a few years ----- i want joe to get better and better -- which he has proved he can do many times --- i think joes voice is better than adeles and feel he could  work his way up to be as popular as her one daY -- HOPEFULLY
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Post by: carisma on March 02, 2012, 02:11:49 PM
Good post Sandy and I mostly agree but would also like us to get to a stage where we are not reluctant to post videos on a public site
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 02, 2012, 02:21:18 PM
^^  :goodpost:
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Post by: s on March 02, 2012, 02:23:05 PM
Good post Sandy and I mostly agree but would also like us to get to a stage where we are not reluctant to post videos on a public site

we'll surely get there ;)
I'm using my facebook friends sub conscience for now, posting about Joe. They don't have to watch the videos, but at least they know they exist  :sarky:
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Post by: s on March 03, 2012, 12:17:31 AM
sounds like it's going well...
Cass Lowe ‏ @CassLowe  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
I've written 8 songs in 5 days.

this is the guy who tweeted this morning that he was going to be in the studio early today with Joe. so if those 8 songs are for the album, it's good
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Post by: Trudy on March 03, 2012, 01:19:00 AM
and we have joes songs too ---  album 4 soooo exciting  :choir3:
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Post by: s on March 03, 2012, 01:06:36 PM
Belle Humble ‏ @BelleHumble  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Was supposed to go to Brixton Academy last night for UKF party but fell asleep at 9pm Thats what happens when you write 6 songs in 4 days!

they all had a busy week ;)
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Post by: Hayley on March 03, 2012, 03:27:39 PM
Good post Sandy, hope so.  :ten:
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Post by: Trudy on March 03, 2012, 04:44:32 PM
hope they all had a great time songwriting too :balloons:
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Post by: carisma on March 03, 2012, 11:12:40 PM
HELEN BOULDING ‏ @HELENBOULDING 
great songs @joemcelderry91 , I'm listening back to the 3 we wrote and they sound amazing! well done : )


https://twitter.com/#!/HELENBOULDING
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Post by: roec on March 03, 2012, 11:16:05 PM
Ooooo cool thanks carisma :cool2:
Must have wrote alot of songs :)
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Post by: Liz on March 03, 2012, 11:18:45 PM
is he writing the whole album.......just Joe songs [with help]
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Post by: s on March 03, 2012, 11:20:30 PM
 :yahoo:  :dance2:  :party:  :cheers:  :firework:  :autumn:  :confetti:  :goodluck:  :champagne2:  :teadunk:  :wavehat:  :goofy:  :hurrah:  :ilovejoe:

PS: still no restrictions on the number of smiley per post  :snigger:
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Post by: sandyrose102 on March 03, 2012, 11:27:10 PM
HELEN BOULDING ‏ @HELENBOULDING 
great songs @joemcelderry91 , I'm listening back to the 3 we wrote and they sound amazing! well done : )


https://twitter.com/#!/HELENBOULDING

Think this is an example of her work. I like this.  :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u_5uUj7p_I&feature=player_embedded
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Post by: s on March 03, 2012, 11:30:26 PM
from wikipedia:
Helen Boulding
Born   1 December 1978 (age 33)
Origin   Sheffield, England
Genres   Pop, Rock
Instruments   vocals, piano
Labels   Maid in Sheffield
Website   HelenBoulding.com

She co-wrote the 911 song "The Day We Find Love" which was UK top 5 hit in 1997.
In the past Helen has written with some of the biggest names in music. Simon Tong (The Good, the Bad and the Queen, The Verve) has written recently with Helen and some of these songs appear as bonus tracks on the forthcoming singles. She has also written with Squeeze's Chris Difford and managed to persuade Pink Floyd's Rick Wright out of retirement to write some songs with her.[1] She has also collaborated with the renowned songwriter, Billy Steinberg (Eternal Flame, True Colors, Like a Virgin). She also co-wrote Maybe That's What It Takes, the debut single of Alex Parks, a top five hit in the UK in 2003.
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Post by: Hayley on March 03, 2012, 11:36:58 PM
HELEN BOULDING ‏ @HELENBOULDING 
great songs @joemcelderry91 , I'm listening back to the 3 we wrote and they sound amazing! well done : )


https://twitter.com/#!/HELENBOULDING

I love reading tweets like this.
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Post by: roec on March 03, 2012, 11:40:04 PM
Thanks for the link Sandyrose, tis a nice song :)
Me too Hayley and there has been some really postive ones of late :-) Tis brill!! :bravo:
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Post by: s on March 03, 2012, 11:40:29 PM
I was just thinking today: he has worked with more than Belle Humble during the week, i wish others would tweet about his songs as well and say it's good. wish granted ;)
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Post by: s on March 03, 2012, 11:41:08 PM
I like this too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDr14-Ud6rw&feature=related
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on March 03, 2012, 11:43:34 PM
More info - and I love that song above - have downloaded it for my mp3 player......

http://www.musicsalesfilmtv.co.uk/Composers/ComposerDetailsView.aspx?composerId=31&PlaylistId=
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 03, 2012, 11:44:38 PM
I've been compiling a list of the people who've tweeted that they've been working with him (or he them):

Ash Lowes @ashlowes
Jamie Squire @jsquiremusic
Bella Humble @BellaHumble
Cass Lowe @CassLowe
Helen Boulding @HelenBoulding

Also on the songwriters camp:
@ludivicoeinaudi
Gavin Clark
Ed Cosens of Reverend & the Makers @Reverend_Makers

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Post by: Liz on March 03, 2012, 11:55:38 PM
Liking Helen Boulding  :-)
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Post by: s on March 03, 2012, 11:59:25 PM
I've been compiling a list of the people who've tweeted that they've been working with him (or he them):

Jamie Squire @jsquiremusic
Bella Humble @BellaHumble
Cass Lowe @CassLowe
Helen Boulding @HelenBoulding

Also on the songwriters camp:
@ludivicoeinaudi
Gavin Clark
Ed Cosens of Reverend & the Makers @Reverend_Makers

thanks for that. I feel the need of keeping tracks of what is going on with this album for some reason. I have a word document with the names and their tweets, so we know how many songs they have written and when we have the album in our hands at last, we'll see if how many of their songs made it to the album ;)
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Post by: MEW on March 04, 2012, 12:03:58 AM
There's the one he did with Ash if that counts. ;)
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Post by: johntyjack on March 04, 2012, 12:57:24 AM
 I dont get what this big deal is about Joe writing his own songs....Many great singers cant write...they just sing.  I'm happy to hear joe sing and I dont much care who writes the song....By the way I wasnt suggesting he should be superstar overnight.   I feel his talent is so versatile, and there is a real need for a big personality, someone with charm and likeability, all this Joe has.  When you see him on stage he has a big presence, he certainly  "Owns" the stage and knows how to use it...all this acheived  in a very short time in "The Business". Hopefully his fan base will grow, especially if he can get more tv exposure
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Post by: Trudy on March 04, 2012, 02:14:45 AM
joe and ash did more than one song mew -- on the train they did 2 or more didnt they ????

 glad joe has been writing theses songs with so many others .--- great work  :balloons:
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Post by: s on March 04, 2012, 09:52:12 AM
oh, yes, I will add 2 songs with Ash, you never know, her name might be mentioned.  :thumbsup:

The big deal about Joe writing his own songs is that nowadays the media and some artists kind of say that if you are not able to write your own songs, then you are not a full artist. It doesn't mean that you have to write the whole album by yourself, but it does make sense that if you are fully into music and lyrics while you perform, you should be able to come up with your own original tune once in a while.
It's just like any other job JohntyJack. Your boss asks you to be able to do more than just one thing, even if you are extremely good at what you do.
In the past it didn't seem to be important. Nowadays it is. And maybe singers in the past were not given the opportunity to be creative and were told to stick to what they were paid for: singing; and let the others do their job.
In this time, you have to be a multitasking artist and flexible.

I would think that all singers are creative. They use their voice to create new sounds. They use new words to create emotion in the audience. The way writers, painters, sculptors etc get their feelings out and create a piece . They might come up with a masterpiece one day. They might not. What is important is that they used their thoughts to create something. That's what art is about: creation.
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 04, 2012, 10:13:41 AM
There does, in popular music at least, seem to be a big shift away from performance and towards creation. I don't think in the dance and theatre worlds (the two other big areas where the two overlap), nor in the classical music world, seem to be this backlash against performers.

For example, no-one expects actors to write their own plays or film scripts. Nor would classical musicians or classical dancers be expected to compose symphonies or choreograph ballets. I'm not sure where contemporary dancers fit in this comparison.

And the quality of performers in pop music has taken a nose dive in my opinion.
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Post by: dorinaRO on March 04, 2012, 10:19:29 AM
I've been compiling a list of the people who've tweeted that they've been working with him (or he them):

Jamie Squire @jsquiremusic
Bella Humble @BellaHumble
Cass Lowe @CassLowe
Helen Boulding @HelenBoulding

Also on the songwriters camp:
@ludivicoeinaudi
Gavin Clark
Ed Cosens of Reverend & the Makers @Reverend_Makers

just searched her on twitter and saw this:

Belle Humble Belle Humble ‏ @BelleHumble
Just wrote a track with the amazing @ludivicoeinaudi pianist and composer featuring on Astronaut by @proffesorgreen boooo yaaaaa.

 now i'm on youtube listening to the song and yes, the piano bit sounds good  :snigger: sorry , not a big proffesor green fan here
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Post by: mihi on March 04, 2012, 10:25:37 AM
I think it has to do with modern media, it is for sure a shift.
There used to be bands who would sell 40 million records in a short bit of time,records were quite expensive if you look at it in terms of actual income. So people had to be very picky as to which album they chose to buy. Which means the single has to be very very awesome for people even to consider buying an album. The quality and the amount of sales caused a group/singer to become a hype. Which skyrockets the sales even more.
Now, even if you discount the illegal downloading music is cheaper to buy which means people will buy an album for different reasons. If the single is remotely good, or if there is a hype. Seeing that the hype can't be created anymore trough sheer single sales. (Adele doesn't count) You have to find other means to create a hype. You look at the artist as a product, how would you sell a product, sum up all it's advantages, show it in the media, and fingers crossed. That is kinda of what happens, if an artist can 'write' it is an extra advantage to sum up. Media, make sure that your artist gets everywhere, try to stand out etc.
Back then making an album meant instant feedback, if people didn't like it your sales went down=no hype is no more sales. But now with an 'artificial' hype the sales will stay up. The problem is when you think the artist has steady sales/ a stable fanbase, you will take a bit of the advertising away, to turn in more profit, but when the artist really isn't that good, they drop down
I think that is one of the main reasons why the quality goes down, because the natural control i.e. amount of sold albums equals quality is gone.
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Post by: s on March 04, 2012, 10:36:38 AM
There does, in popular music at least, seem to be a big shift away from performance and towards creation. I don't think in the dance and theatre worlds (the two other big areas where the two overlap), nor in the classical music world, seem to be this backlash against performers.

For example, no-one expects actors to write their own plays or film scripts. Nor would classical musicians or classical dancers be expected to compose symphonies or choreograph ballets. I'm not sure where contemporary dancers fit in this comparison.

And the quality of performers in pop music has taken a nose dive in my opinion.

not as far as that, but they tend to move towards production. And even if they don't, they create the character by putting their stamp on it. the character exists in the script but the actor creates the actual person.
Classical music and dance... hmmmm. I didn't think about that. I don't think you can change a note in a classical composition. You are an interpretor. Now dance, I have no idea either. Can you change a choreography in ballet? a swan in swan lake has to do what a swan is supposed to do.
but these artist interpret these classical pieces and they do much more than that. they are dancers and musicians. They don't stick to just performing.
look at Sylvie Guillhem and the Ballet Boyz. She is huge in the ballet world. They were kind of reject. Those guys came up with a fantastic new style of dance using the ballet technique.
So I suppose in some disciplines, sometimes, you have to stick to interpreting, but you are free to create on other sides.

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Post by: judetheobscure on March 04, 2012, 10:40:50 AM
not as far as that, but they tend to move towards production. And even if they don't, they create the character by putting their stamp on it. the character exists in the script but the actor creates the actual person

A small number move into production.

They create the character in just the same way as the singer creates the song. The song is nothing without the performer.

but these artist interpret these classical pieces and they do much more than that. they are dancers and musicians. They don't stick to just performing.
So I suppose in some disciplines, sometimes, you have to stick to interpreting, but you are free to create on other sides.

But why should this approach not hold for pop music?

I think it has to do with modern media, it is for sure a shift.

I agree - the media and the record companies - who are interested in money, not music.
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Post by: s on March 04, 2012, 10:42:17 AM
Belle Humble ‏ @BelleHumble  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
I just wanted to thank @MusicSalesUK for an AMAZING last few days of songwriting camp....thank you for your wonderful hospitality!!! xoxoox

Music Sales UK:
@MusicSalesUK
Leading UK music publisher with rights to tracks such as The Tide is High & representing leading composers such as Michael Nyman & Ludovico Einaudi
http://www.musicsalesfilmtv.co.uk/home.aspx
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Post by: s on March 04, 2012, 10:45:14 AM
Cass Lowe ‏ @CassLowe Close
My office this afternoon, writing a song in the sun with [dimples] Ludivico Einaudi and Louise Hull. Feeling pretty happy! pic.twitter.com/b1faLRxE
Retweeted by MusicSales Film&TV

(https://p.twimg.com/AmxQqjtCIAAFYMw.jpg)

nice office!!!!!

Scanner ‏ @robinrimbaud  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
What a poptastic day. Songwriting adventures with Gavin Clark, Helen Boulding, @BelleHumble and Ed of @Reverend_Makers. More tomorrow :-)
Retweeted by MusicSales Film&TV

MusicSales Film&TV ‏ @MusicSalesUK  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Writing week Day 4: What a week it's been. New music coming from @LudovicoEinaud @BelleHumble @CassLowe @LouiseNThePins @forgetcape & more

and they retweeted this from Joe:
Joe McElderry ‏ @joemcelderry91  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Early meeting this morning then back to write some songs!! Been amazing at this songwriting camp!! Learnt soo much!! :)
Retweeted by MusicSales Film&TV
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 04, 2012, 10:46:23 AM
That's interesting (the Belle Humble tweet). Music Sales is a music publisher - sells sheet music - at least it was in my day :-)
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Post by: s on March 04, 2012, 10:47:17 AM
That's interesting (the Belle Humble tweet). Music Sales is a music publisher - sells sheet music - at least it was in my day :-)

I've just added their details: twitter account and website to my post ;)
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Post by: s on March 04, 2012, 10:48:29 AM
 :thumbsup:

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WhereverYou Are sold 556,000 copies in the last week, more than the rest of the top 12 combined, the Official Charts Company said.

Little Mix, at number two, sold 117,000 records across the week.

The100-strong choir was put together by Gareth Malone for the BBC Two series The Choir, which culminated in a performance at the Royal Albert Hall. The song was written for the wives by one of Music Sales latest signings Paul Mealor & was based upon the letters written between partners whilst one is away on military service.

On the 200th year of Novello, weask you to join us in toasting to a wonderful achievement for a brilliant cause. "
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Post by: s on March 04, 2012, 10:52:56 AM
Ludovico Einaudi
The ambient and contemplative music Einaudi writes today is a fusion of eclectic styles: minimalist avant-garde combined with the influence of pop music.
(http://www.musicsalesfilmtv.co.uk/images/composers/ludovicoeinaudi1L.jpg)

Gavin Clark
Haunting songs and uplifting classics, song-writing for the 21st century; Gavin Clark is a solo artist and voice of UNKLE, Sunhouse and Clayhill.
(http://www.musicsalesfilmtv.co.uk/images/composers/gavinclark4L.jpg)
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 04, 2012, 10:56:18 AM
She's on a roll - researcher par extraordinaire ;)
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Post by: s on March 04, 2012, 11:02:20 AM
She's on a roll - researcher par extraordinaire ;)

 :blush:
I find this fascinating.
My ex boyfriend used to sing to me: "but you don't care for music, do you?" . Just this sentence of Hallelujahby Jeff Buckley . Because I told him that I don't really care where it comes from, I just know if I like it or not.
 :bash: stubborn me!
I guess I have to thank Joe for the turn of things ;) and this forum too  :-)
He actually told me on facebook this week: what is wrong with you nowadays? I can't use that lyric to describe you anymore!  :goofy: result!  :snigger:
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Post by: dorinaRO on March 04, 2012, 11:09:42 AM
thanks for all the info

close your eyes and try to imagine how Joe's voice would sound with something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTkzyyv0DuA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTkzyyv0DuA)

i'm really excited now but quite nervous too
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Post by: s on March 04, 2012, 11:14:37 AM
piano is the most beautiful instrument in the universe.
I know Jude won't agree ;) French horns all the way.  :snigger:
it takes me to places that don't exist...  :sigh:
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 04, 2012, 11:20:35 AM
A piano can't take a single note and rise and fall on it - technical limitation - French horns are superior  :haha:  :haha:   :whistle:
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Post by: mihi on March 04, 2012, 11:22:27 AM
A piano can't take a single note and rise and fall on it - technical limitation - French horns are superior  :haha:  :haha:   :whistle:
but sometimes less is more :-)
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Post by: s on March 04, 2012, 11:23:08 AM
 :roll2: talk to the hand!!!!!  :snigger:
thanks Mihi.  :lol:
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 04, 2012, 11:26:55 AM
Play a single note on a piano and see what a thrill it gives you  :lol:
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Post by: mihi on March 04, 2012, 11:38:00 AM
Play a single note on a piano and see what a thrill it gives you  :lol:
but we are not talking single notes here, we are talking compositions, did beethoven/mozart play french horns :tease:
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 04, 2012, 11:41:30 AM
They certainly wrote for them. Mozart wrote four very fine and highly regarded horn concertos.

Having said that, I do see them more as a group instrument - they add almost every "shiver down your spine" moment in film music, for example. However, this is all off-topic - who set me off????  :scream:
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Post by: litcar on March 04, 2012, 11:43:04 AM
They certainly wrote for them. Mozart wrote four very fine and highly regarded horn concertos.

Having said that, I do see them more as a group instrument - they add almost every "shiver down your spine" moment in film music, for example. However, this is all off-topic - who set me off????  :scream:

I was just about to say Jude 'What has this got to do with the thread title?' :lol: :lol:
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 04, 2012, 11:43:59 AM
Please Miss, they should know better than to diss French horns  :cry:
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Post by: litcar on March 04, 2012, 11:46:31 AM
Please Miss, they should know better than to diss French horns  :cry:

Now, now children, every instrument has its place and contributes in making beautiful music.
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Post by: jlovesjoe on March 04, 2012, 12:04:25 PM
Love the sounds of that Ludovicio peice. Think these haunting type of melodies would be what I would love to hear from Joe. I would also like to think there may be a place on the album for the some of the very beautiful guitar playing of Stelios, the guy from Joe's tour and the man who accompanied Joe on his accoustic of 'We Found Love' at The Sage concert. When the guitar is played like that, I think as an accompaniment for a haunting song it takes some beating. Sorry to keep banging on about that particular rendition by Joe and Stelios (Sage thread), but it reduced me to tears ....yet again.... as I thought it was out of this world beautiful. The guitar can be too strident at times, but in the hands of a master...glorious. Several times Joe has covered a song which I have been hearing and paying scant attention to when sung in the original form, to discover when hearing it sung by Joe, that it is a melody of great beauty,totally unexpected. What does it say about the world of music today if that kind of immense talent is no longer enough.!!
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Post by: s on March 04, 2012, 12:40:34 PM
They certainly wrote for them. Mozart wrote four very fine and highly regarded horn concertos.

Having said that, I do see them more as a group instrument - they add almost every "shiver down your spine" moment in film music, for example. However, this is all off-topic - who set me off????  :scream:

 :moi:

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Post by: judetheobscure on March 04, 2012, 01:10:13 PM
Love the sounds of that Ludovicio peice. Think these haunting type of melodies would be what I would love to hear from Joe. I would also like to think there may be a place on the album for the some of the very beautiful guitar playing of Stelios, the guy from Joe's tour and the man who accompanied Joe on his accoustic of 'We Found Love' at The Sage concert. When the guitar is played like that, I think as an accompaniment for a haunting song it takes some beating. Sorry to keep banging on about that particular rendition by Joe and Stelios (Sage thread), but it reduced me to tears ....yet again.... as I thought it was out of this world beautiful. The guitar can be too strident at times, but in the hands of a master...glorious. Several times Joe has covered a song which I have been hearing and paying scant attention to when sung in the original form, to discover when hearing it sung by Joe, that it is a melody of great beauty,totally unexpected. What does it say about the world of music today if that kind of immense talent is no longer enough.!!

I thought the same about the Home/Over The Rainbow arrangement on tour. Haven't had a chance to listen to the songwriters from camp - clearly a very diverse range of both style and experience - but will do so tonight.
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Post by: Hayley on March 04, 2012, 01:31:39 PM
thanks for all the info

close your eyes and try to imagine how Joe's voice would sound with something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTkzyyv0DuA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTkzyyv0DuA)

i'm really excited now but quite nervous too

I love this piece of music.  I love haunting music in songs, gives me goosebumpbs.
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Post by: TEDBEAR25 on March 04, 2012, 03:51:25 PM
piano is the most beautiful instrument in the universe.
I know Jude won't agree ;) French horns all the way.  :snigger:
it takes me to places that don't exist...  :sigh:

I used to love my Rolf Harris stylophone, I used to make beautiful music on that  :yes:
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Post by: joan46 on March 04, 2012, 03:58:28 PM
I had one of those as well Tedbear25 only the music I made could not be called beautiful  :D  :D  :D
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Post by: Siam4joe on March 05, 2012, 01:15:14 PM
 :thankyou: so much doriaRO.  Always love instrumental music, and this is absolutely beautiful  :ten:.
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 05, 2012, 01:36:15 PM
Very beautiful and also very easy to write.
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Post by: Trudy on March 05, 2012, 02:32:04 PM
wonder if joe is still writing  songs or has he finished  :balloons:
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Post by: s on March 05, 2012, 04:52:23 PM
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Just in the studio listening to the tracks from songwriters. @joemcelderry91 you nearly made me cry! What a voice, what beautiful lyrics.

 :goofy:  :hurrah:
I'm so happy I saw this tweet coming!!!
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Post by: Trudy on March 05, 2012, 04:58:03 PM
that tweet has made me so happpy ----- always knew joe could be male adele ------- only joe is better than adele .--- knew hed make them cry --- bet its a beautifule song too ---- happy for joe  :ten: :ilovejoe:
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Post by: litcar on March 05, 2012, 04:59:10 PM
Saw that tweet and I got goosebumps!!!!!! :hurrah: :goofy:
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Post by: JazDarcy on March 05, 2012, 04:59:56 PM
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Just in the studio listening to the tracks from songwriters. @joemcelderry91 you nearly made me cry! What a voice, what beautiful lyrics.

 :goofy:  :hurrah:
I'm so happy I saw this tweet coming!!!

 :ilovejoe:
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Post by: s on March 05, 2012, 05:00:55 PM
I'm almost crying and I haven't even heard a note!!!  :lol:  :tissue:
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Post by: litcar on March 05, 2012, 05:02:11 PM
I'm almost crying and I haven't even heard a note!!!  :lol:  :tissue:

Me too!!!! :cry: :cry:
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Post by: Trudy on March 05, 2012, 05:03:05 PM
me 3  :tissue: :tissue:--- wait til hayley hears
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Post by: s on March 05, 2012, 05:04:43 PM
I'm going to need a day off when this album comes out... AGAIN!!!!!!
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 05, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Pass the  :tissue: That tweet has made the tears well up  :blush1:
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Post by: KR51 on March 05, 2012, 05:14:26 PM
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Just in the studio listening to the tracks from songwriters. @joemcelderry91 you nearly made me cry! What a voice, what beautiful lyrics.

 :goofy:  :hurrah:
I'm so happy I saw this tweet coming!!!

I'm so happy and could'nt be more proud of Joe.  :choir3: :ilovejoe:
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Post by: carisma on March 05, 2012, 05:19:16 PM
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Just in the studio listening to the tracks from songwriters. @joemcelderry91 you nearly made me cry! What a voice, what beautiful lyrics.

 :goofy:  :hurrah:
I'm so happy I saw this tweet coming!!!

Thanks for posting Sandy - How can something make you so happy yet make you want to cry at the same time  :cry:  :-)  :spasm:
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Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on March 05, 2012, 05:20:20 PM
omg I can feel the excitment and emotion in the pit of my stomach from that tweet. :cry:
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Post by: dorinaRO on March 05, 2012, 05:20:50 PM
 :hurrah:  :hurrah:
love this one too

Helen Boulding:
   @CassLowe hey you! I have had 2 days off, naughty me. Absolutely lovin' the song we wrote with joe! Can't stop singing it : )

 :-)
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Post by: KR51 on March 05, 2012, 05:25:59 PM
OMG all these exciting tweets, how on earth are we going to cope with the wait till we get our hands on his album. I'm getting so excited about it. :goofy: :goofy: :goofy:  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on March 05, 2012, 05:32:35 PM
HE CAN DO IT!!!  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: kanga samps on March 05, 2012, 05:41:59 PM
 :balloons: :wavehat: :joke:

Well that's cheered me up and made me so teary too!!!
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Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on March 05, 2012, 05:45:35 PM
What is it about Joe that makes everyone cry?  :tissue: I've never shed so many tears as I have in the past 2 years.... :tissue:
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Post by: Trudy on March 05, 2012, 05:47:12 PM
i have been soooooo EXCITED for JOE --- i was tweeting back spread the JOE LOVE  :ilovejoe: :choir3:
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Post by: Tacom on March 05, 2012, 05:50:13 PM
What is it about Joe that makes everyone cry?  :tissue: I've never shed so many tears as I have in the past 2 years.... :tissue:

Exactly.. I am almost thinking maybe it was better if I never saw that XF audition.
It cost me loads of tissue boxes  :-)
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Post by: bumblebee on March 05, 2012, 05:51:19 PM
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Just in the studio listening to the tracks from songwriters. @joemcelderry91 you nearly made me cry! What a voice, what beautiful lyrics.

 :goofy:  :hurrah:
I'm so happy I saw this tweet coming!!!

I'm just loving this. Hope they use it, I can't wait. :tissue:
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Post by: bumblebee on March 05, 2012, 05:53:55 PM
What is it about Joe that makes everyone cry?  :tissue: I've never shed so many tears as I have in the past 2 years.... :tissue:

 This time there happy tears, a year ago, they were sad tears. My god what a roller coaster we go on. :bravo:
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Post by: s on March 05, 2012, 05:54:49 PM
:hurrah:  :hurrah:
love this one too

Helen Boulding:
   @CassLowe hey you! I have had 2 days off, naughty me. Absolutely lovin' the song we wrote with joe! Can't stop singing it : )

 :-)

which is shortly followed by:

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@CassLowe @michael__price oh yes pls, it'd be amazing with some of michael's strings!


now all I need is sharpen that patience I have been trying to get for a while...  :jump:  :bash:
I WANT TO KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: s on March 05, 2012, 05:57:09 PM
Is this the beginning of the promo?
this is how you start a hype right? Just that with Joe, it is true and he really makes people cry when he sings :)
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 05, 2012, 06:05:32 PM
What is it about Joe that makes everyone cry?  :tissue: I've never shed so many tears as I have in the past 2 years.... :tissue:

Exactly.. I am almost thinking maybe it was better if I never saw that XF audition.
It cost me loads of tissue boxes  :-)

 :rofl3:  :rofl2: me too  :rofl2:  :rofl3:
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 05, 2012, 06:08:32 PM
And there's this one too:

Cass Lowe ‏ @CassLowe Close
@michael__price @HELENBOULDING ;) actually come to think of it, if all goes to plan we might need your stringy help, down the line!


Could be to do with Joe, could be not ----
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Post by: s on March 05, 2012, 06:12:22 PM
And there's this one too:

Cass Lowe ‏ @CassLowe Close
@michael__price @HELENBOULDING ;) actually come to think of it, if all goes to plan we might need your stringy help, down the line!


Could be to do with Joe, could be not ----


please let it all go to plan!!!!!!! :pray:
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Post by: Trudy on March 05, 2012, 06:12:45 PM
tacom -- still glad we saw that xf audition tho arnt we ???????  JOE is gonna be big news one day and tacom  we can say we were there when it all started  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Tacom on March 05, 2012, 06:15:40 PM
tacom -- still glad we saw that xf audition tho arnt we ???????  JOE is gonna be big news one day and tacom  we can say we were there when it all started  :ilovejoe:

I know Trudy. For me Joe is already BIG, no matter if other artists sell more records then our Joe, I know he has the talent...
but it would have saved loads of tears and nerves  :-)
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Post by: sandyrose102 on March 05, 2012, 06:26:14 PM
tacom -- still glad we saw that xf audition tho arnt we ???????  JOE is gonna be big news one day and tacom  we can say we were there when it all started  :ilovejoe:

I know Trudy. For me Joe is already BIG, no matter if other artists sell more records then our Joe, I know he has the talent...
but it would have saved loads of tears and nerves  :-)

I know what you mean Tacom. Pass the box of tissues love.  :tissue:   :D

It's just wonderful, after the day from hell at work, to walk in and read all these wonderful tweets about Joe.  :goofy:   :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Anetto on March 05, 2012, 06:28:39 PM
These tweets are setting everyone off reaching for the tissues and we haven't heard a single note yet. Joe has the talent to outshine everyone and when the world recognises this we can all say, yes we know, were there at the very beginning. 

I have never felt so tearful over anyone else but Joe's beautiful voice makes me shed bucket loads!! What will we be like when we get our hands on this album!! :ilovejoe:
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Post by: BlueAngel51 on March 05, 2012, 06:33:36 PM
Saw that tweet and I got goosebumps!!!!!! :hurrah: :goofy:

 :wavehat:  :wavehat: :wavehat:

Not been online much today but what a lovely surprise  :-)
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Post by: Tessa on March 05, 2012, 06:34:15 PM
These tweets are setting everyone off reaching for the tissues and we haven't heard a single note yet. Joe has the talent to outshine everyone and when the world recognises this we can all say, yes we know, were there at the very beginning. 

I have never felt so tearful over anyone else but Joe's beautiful voice makes me shed bucket loads!! What will we be like when we get our hands on this album!! :ilovejoe:

at least we get to all cry together  :tissue: :cry: :friends: :comfort:
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Post by: Tacom on March 05, 2012, 06:46:34 PM
tacom -- still glad we saw that xf audition tho arnt we ???????  JOE is gonna be big news one day and tacom  we can say we were there when it all started  :ilovejoe:

I know Trudy. For me Joe is already BIG, no matter if other artists sell more records then our Joe, I know he has the talent...
but it would have saved loads of tears and nerves  :-)

I know what you mean Tacom. Pass the box of tissues love.  :tissue:   :D

It's just wonderful, after the day from hell at work, to walk in and read all these wonderful tweets about Joe.  :goofy:   :ilovejoe:

I can't sorry SandyRose... I run out of them!  :sarky:
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Post by: tinabee on March 05, 2012, 06:52:47 PM
It's not just tissues that i've had to buy loads of since following Joe. Have needed quite a few boxes of hair dye too, from going grey from worrying.  :snigger:
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Post by: Tacom on March 05, 2012, 06:57:10 PM
 :rofl2:  Cant comment on that Tina  :lol:
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Post by: Baishel on March 05, 2012, 06:59:51 PM
It's not just tissues that i've had to buy loads of since following Joe. Have needed quite a few boxes of hair dye too, from going grey from worrying.  :snigger:

Me too!  :lol:
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Post by: roec on March 05, 2012, 07:08:23 PM
Loving all the tweets!! :)
I'm getting waaaayyy too excited for this!!! :spasm:
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Post by: Trudy on March 05, 2012, 07:08:58 PM
well my hairs white tina --- but i know hayley said she has some grey hair from worry about joey --- be lovley just to sit back and listen to album4 and joes voice ( and not worry)
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Post by: mihi on March 05, 2012, 08:52:15 PM
maybes we can declare our expensea :tease:
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Post by: s on March 05, 2012, 09:02:44 PM
maybes we can declare our expensea :tease:

you think the government would pay them back? after all we are in good health and always happy thanks to Joe!!! they should pay us back!
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Post by: Jenny Evans on March 05, 2012, 09:04:31 PM
Sometimes we dont always agree with each other on here but there is one thing we all agree on and its this wonderful young man has had a profound affect on all of us.  We all have the same deep feelings, sometimes we cant understand why Joe stirs up all these emotions in us, especially those of us who are old enough to be his grandmother. I never imagined that I would ever feel what  I do about a young man I dont really know.  I am not afraid to admit that he has certainly changed my life (my family think I am definitely ready for the funny farm). Its seems that nearly 10 months for No.4 to be released is an eternity but with the positive tweets from people working with Joe last week of course its well worth waiting for. Thank you all so much for always supporting Joe and for supporting all of us.  Onwards and upwards. Jenny
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Post by: mihi on March 05, 2012, 09:06:32 PM
maybes we can declare our expensea :tease:

you think the government would pay them back? after all we are in good health and always happy thanks to Joe!!! they should pay us back!
insurance should cover it :D
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Post by: Hayley on March 05, 2012, 09:44:04 PM
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Just in the studio listening to the tracks from songwriters. @joemcelderry91 you nearly made me cry! What a voice, what beautiful lyrics.

 :goofy:  :hurrah:
I'm so happy I saw this tweet coming!!!

Thanks for posting Sandy - How can something make you so happy yet make you want to cry at the same time  :cry:  :-)  :spasm:

Crazy isn't it, we smile like a cheshire cat and cry with pride at the same time.  Felt so emotional reading that tweet.
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Post by: s on March 05, 2012, 09:45:25 PM
I was at work with watery eyes. Lucky there's nobody in front of me and I didn't have to deal with anyone straight after that. They would have been worried and thought something terrible had happened
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Post by: tinabee on March 05, 2012, 09:48:26 PM
Sometimes we dont always agree with each other on here but there is one thing we all agree on and its this wonderful young man has had a profound affect on all of us.  We all have the same deep feelings, sometimes we cant understand why Joe stirs up all these emotions in us, especially those of us who are old enough to be his grandmother. I never imagined that I would ever feel what  I do about a young man I dont really know.  I am not afraid to admit that he has certainly changed my life (my family think I am definitely ready for the funny farm). Its seems that nearly 10 months for No.4 to be released is an eternity but with the positive tweets from people working with Joe last week of course its well worth waiting for. Thank you all so much for always supporting Joe and for supporting all of us.  Onwards and upwards. Jenny
Awww, lovely post Jenny, Joe is certainly a very special young man.
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Post by: Tessa on March 05, 2012, 10:17:09 PM
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Just in the studio listening to the tracks from songwriters. @joemcelderry91 you nearly made me cry! What a voice, what beautiful lyrics.

 :goofy:  :hurrah:
I'm so happy I saw this tweet coming!!!

Thanks for posting Sandy - How can something make you so happy yet make you want to cry at the same time  :cry:  :-)  :spasm:

Crazy isn't it, we smile like a cheshire cat and cry with pride at the same time.  Felt so emotional reading that tweet.

I think if we do the joe poll sometime for 2012 that would defintely have to be among the "favourite tweets about Joe" section
 also lovely post Jenny!!
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Post by: Liz on March 05, 2012, 10:21:05 PM
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Just in the studio listening to the tracks from songwriters. @joemcelderry91 you nearly made me cry! What a voice, what beautiful lyrics.

 :goofy:  :hurrah:
I'm so happy I saw this tweet coming!!!
Feeling very proud and happy and weepy and proud [again] and excited, we'll all be emotional wrecks together!
 :hurrah:  :cry:  :hurrah:  :cry:  :hurrah:  :cry:  :hurrah:  :cry:  :hurrah:  :cry:  :hurrah:  :hurrah:  :hurrah:
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Post by: Trudy on March 05, 2012, 10:23:55 PM
yes tessa one of many favourite tweets  for 2012

 also lovley post jenny  :goodpost:
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Post by: Susie D on March 05, 2012, 10:45:07 PM
Sometimes we dont always agree with each other on here but there is one thing we all agree on and its this wonderful young man has had a profound affect on all of us.  We all have the same deep feelings, sometimes we cant understand why Joe stirs up all these emotions in us, especially those of us who are old enough to be his grandmother. I never imagined that I would ever feel what  I do about a young man I dont really know.  I am not afraid to admit that he has certainly changed my life (my family think I am definitely ready for the funny farm). Its seems that nearly 10 months for No.4 to be released is an eternity but with the positive tweets from people working with Joe last week of course its well worth waiting for. Thank you all so much for always supporting Joe and for supporting all of us.  Onwards and upwards. Jenny

Aahh. Lovely post Jenny. :-)
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on March 05, 2012, 11:56:16 PM
Its so exciting to see people in the industry supporting Joe & recognising his talent :)  :goofy:

He must be feeling so pleased with the last 9 months.....  :)
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Post by: Liz on March 06, 2012, 12:09:17 AM
Its so exciting to see people in the industry supporting Joe & recognising his talent :)  :goofy:

He must be feeling so pleased with the last 9 months.....  :)
This makes me sooo happy.   :hurrah:
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Post by: Trudy on March 06, 2012, 12:25:08 AM
sooo happy about tweets  today wonder how joe feels  :balloons:
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Post by: joan46 on March 06, 2012, 09:54:29 AM
Joe must feel on top of the world ,look at us lot we are over the moon with pride . This album is going to be amazing I just know it .Bring on September   :hurrah:  :hurrah:  :hurrah:
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Post by: s on March 06, 2012, 10:18:42 AM
http://www.musicsalesfilmtv.co.uk/ar/10-09-02/A_R.aspx

"Songs from the Music Sales catalogues have been covered by some of the greatest recording artists ever, from Frank Sinatra to Beyoncé, from Led Zeppelin to the Rolling Stones, and continue to feature on best-selling records like Susan Boyle’s debut album. In addition, a new generation of song writers are creating both modern classics and cutting edge hits. Take a look at our Composers & Songwriters to find full details of our brilliant and eclectic roster."

he's getting closer every day  :snigger:
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 06, 2012, 10:33:06 AM
It's interesting how Music Sales have diversified. Back when I were young ;) it was just publishing - it's mainstay was producing sheet music for the latest albums and compilations of pop music. Now it's moved ahead of the game.
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Post by: s on March 06, 2012, 10:43:10 AM
They even provide music for adverts. Did you see their advertising page?
They have done music for many brands: Coca Cola, Emporio Armani, Knorr, Cow & Gate ...  :haha:
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Post by: Anetto on March 06, 2012, 10:58:13 AM
No wonder Joe is happy. Things are getting better and better by the day. Roll on September, this album is going to be MEGA!!! :hurrah:
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Post by: Trudy on March 06, 2012, 11:40:03 AM
joes album 4 should be  brilliant  especially that  the songs joe wrote  are meant to have beautiful  lyrics  :balloons:    :choir3:
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Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on March 06, 2012, 01:17:04 PM
How does it all work?  Music Sales presumably provided the song writing workshop. Did Joe have to pay as a rookie and would there have been other unexperienced writers there or did Joe get exclusivity to go and work with the song writers or do they all use the opportunity to get together to get ideas and bounce off of each other.  Does Music Sales have the right to the songs written?

All so interesting...
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Post by: s on March 06, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
so many questions  :D  :haha: but I have no idea, and no answer to enlighten you.

I don't even know what Joe means by getting the label to listen to his new songs.
I suppose they have recorded something already, something basic
Then they need to work on the music
then they need to record the proper tracks and choose the ones that will feature on the album.

how long does all this take?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on March 06, 2012, 01:44:32 PM
I don't know how it works but it looks like some of those on the camp are already part of the Music Sales stable:

http://www.musicsalesfilmtv.co.uk/Composers.aspx

If they like what Joe did, that's got to be good :-)

Is the following a similar set-up (note two bogey-names in the list of attendees  :haha: ):

http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=1041082

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Post by: Trudy on March 06, 2012, 02:15:47 PM
yes  its good if they like joes songs .--- joe will play the recording to label thursday --- hope they like them too  :balloons:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 06, 2012, 02:37:09 PM
I don't know how it works but it looks like some of those on the camp are already part of the Music Sales stable:

http://www.musicsalesfilmtv.co.uk/Composers.aspx

If they like what Joe did, that's got to be good :-)

Is the following a similar set-up (note two bogey-names in the list of attendees  :haha: ):

http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=1041082

so interesting...
what are the bogey names?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on March 06, 2012, 02:45:43 PM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/07/05/137530847/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-hit-song

interesting
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 06, 2012, 03:49:47 PM
 is the bogey names pinch???? tobey?????
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 06, 2012, 04:07:49 PM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/07/05/137530847/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-hit-song

interesting

 :shock1:
don't know where you found this, but it says it all...
thank you very much
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on March 06, 2012, 04:08:42 PM
Uh uh - you have short memories .....
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Post by: s on March 06, 2012, 04:09:59 PM
Uh uh - you have short memories .....

me?
no, I was just never interested in who worked on wide awake (because i suppose that's what you are referring to)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on March 06, 2012, 04:12:53 PM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/07/05/137530847/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-hit-song

interesting

Yes, very interesting. Is that the kind of camp Joe was on? A camp for his album? Or am I in cloud cuckoo land there. Maybe a camp for several projects or just in general. Would love it to be just for his album ....... then we'd know Decca are really committed to him.  :ilovejoe:  :inlove:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 06, 2012, 04:20:20 PM
I didn't think it was for anything else than the album...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on March 06, 2012, 04:23:14 PM
I thought it was more about him learning the craft, along with others similar. If the focus was his album then (putting my neutral hat on) I would expect the tweets to be positive. So there's swings and roundabouts in terms of perceptions.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 06, 2012, 04:25:01 PM
that's why I said earlier on the thread that the promo started ;)
create the excitement in advance!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 06, 2012, 04:34:38 PM
agree sandy ---- those tweets yesterday --- were really exciting about joes songs --- maybe early promo for them -- getting people excited about joes songs before the album  :balloons: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on March 06, 2012, 04:45:57 PM
possibly to put it out there that Joe can do more than 'just' covers.  Takes a bit of power away from his critics.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on March 06, 2012, 07:08:27 PM
Uh uh - you have short memories .....
I know who you are talking about Jude :boast:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 06, 2012, 07:12:23 PM
Uh uh - you have short memories .....
I know who you are talkign about Jude :boast:

 :jump: who is it??????
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on March 06, 2012, 07:15:43 PM
Uh uh - you have short memories .....
I know who you are talkign about Jude :boast:

 :jump: who is it??????
Ray Hedges & Nigel Butler
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on March 06, 2012, 07:39:32 PM
anyone think it may be a positive choice for Joe to work with women?  Juliette Pochin, and now 2 songwriters? or is it a coincidence?
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Post by: roec on March 06, 2012, 07:43:09 PM
Cass Lowe is a fella though Ping :) & he was working with Joe at the workshop too
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 06, 2012, 07:46:14 PM
anyone think it may be a positive choice for Joe to work with women?  Juliette Pochin, and now 2 songwriters? or is it a coincidence?

I think your obsession is giving you hallucination: you see things where there is nothing to be seen  ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on March 06, 2012, 07:51:52 PM
 so that's a 'no' then Sandy.....   :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on March 06, 2012, 07:52:49 PM
Cass Lowe is a fella though Ping :) & he was working with Joe at the workshop too


 :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: just testing........ :whistle:

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 06, 2012, 07:55:14 PM
so that's a 'no' then Sandy.....   :-)

yep!!!  :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 06, 2012, 08:48:48 PM
joe worked with  jamie squires too
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 08, 2012, 08:26:17 AM
 :goodluck: Joe and the label!!!!!
:fingerscrossed:

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on March 08, 2012, 08:35:46 AM
I wonder if he will give us a little hint later  :nudgewink:
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Post by: blackenroses on March 08, 2012, 08:41:36 AM
Good luck Joe. OMG I'm excited!  :hurrah: :goofy: :excite:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on March 08, 2012, 09:38:08 AM
I wonder if he will give us a little hint later  :nudgewink:

Was just thinking that because even if they like the songs there's not necessarily going to be a decision today or that they'll be on album 4.  :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on March 08, 2012, 09:45:08 AM
 :goodpost: All part of the learning process but  :fingerscrossed: nonetheless  :spasm:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on March 08, 2012, 11:31:18 AM
What exciting reading this all is. What exciting news to come from holiday too. After looking at some of the videos from The Sage, I agree that Joe's next album will be big pop ballards showing off his wonderful voice. The icing on the cake would be for a song that he wrote to be on there,

 :choir3:   :balloons:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on March 08, 2012, 11:32:56 AM
Maybe just maybe we might get a teeny teeny hint as to how the songs went down with the label  :wink:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 08, 2012, 01:37:05 PM
it looks like joe wont be in london until about 3-4pm tho so the meeting must be a late afternoon meeting ---- hope we hear about songs soon ----- cant wait to find out what decca think

 GOOD LUCK WITH SONGS / DECCA  JOE :goodluck: :goodluck:
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Post by: cassi on March 08, 2012, 02:01:50 PM
Really hope Joe gives us a hint to how it went, so excited for him. :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on March 08, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
Really really looking forward to this album :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Craftie16 on March 08, 2012, 07:52:13 PM
Really really looking forward to this album :)

Me too -  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on March 08, 2012, 08:09:18 PM
It is going to be a good one, can't wait  :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sug60 on March 08, 2012, 08:35:36 PM
This album is going to be great and cannot wait the excitement is too much but will all be worth it :hurrah: :hurrah: :choir3: :choir3: :hurrah: :hurrah:
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Post by: marylou on March 08, 2012, 11:23:18 PM
Me too! and my grandchildren...They keep moaning Im playing the same ones.. over and over in the car! :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 09, 2012, 01:22:10 AM
really happy today  about the sound of joes meeting -- and happy joe tweeted hayley all about it  :hurrah: :hurrah: :wavehat: :balloons:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on March 09, 2012, 10:54:53 AM
really happy today  about the sound of joes meeting -- and happy joe tweeted hayley all about it  :hurrah: :hurrah: :wavehat: :balloons:

Me too Trudy x
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 12, 2012, 10:29:31 AM
just thought i'd bring this across. so we're looking for an october release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j86rr4vLFlU
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on March 12, 2012, 12:37:43 PM
Thanks Jade!  It would be better timing for a slot on strictly  :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Craftie16 on March 12, 2012, 12:47:52 PM
Thank you Jade - hopefully touring at end of year  :hurrah:  I am so going to that  :fingerscrossed: 
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Post by: Trudy on March 12, 2012, 02:24:34 PM
think album is maybe late sept so now saying october just in case  it takes longer and tour i would say december ??????
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Post by: mihi on March 12, 2012, 02:26:34 PM
Hope the tour will be at the right moment, would love to go and meet up with everyone again :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 12, 2012, 03:23:32 PM
if the albums released at the end of october, wonder if he'll be in competition with little mix? would love the tour to be in december, it'd be great to go for my birthday!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on March 12, 2012, 08:52:56 PM
Sounds good a tour at the end of the year, can't wait  :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on March 12, 2012, 08:59:47 PM
Hope the tour will be at the right moment, would love to go and meet up with everyone again :wavehat:

Prepare to be my caregiver then Mihi!  :-)
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 12, 2012, 09:46:54 PM
^^ That has got me even more excited  :hurrah:  :goofy:  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on March 12, 2012, 09:51:13 PM
I think Joe/Decca know that we buy his albums as Christmas Presents - October is perfect for multiple purchases  :rofl2: :rofl2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on March 12, 2012, 10:04:50 PM
Hope the tour will be at the right moment, would love to go and meet up with everyone again :wavehat:

Prepare to be my caregiver then Mihi!  :-)
it would be an honor, Taco
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mr wombat on March 13, 2012, 08:36:12 AM
I hope Decca puts out a single long before the album is finished.  He needs an excuse to have a few TV appearances well before September/October.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 13, 2012, 04:51:40 PM
really hope you can make the tour taco!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: kanga samps on March 13, 2012, 05:44:35 PM
I agree Jade. Really hope that Tacom is able to get to a tour date and I really hope Carisma can get to one too. There are probably one or two others on here who haven't managed to see Joe live yet.

If all is in planning now and announced early we should have enough time to organise ourselves and make this an even bigger success than the first tour.

So excited about this album  :excite:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 13, 2012, 06:24:30 PM
also hope tacom and carisma can make a live joe gig this time  :balloons:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 14, 2012, 10:38:08 AM
really hope you can make a live gig too carisma!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on March 14, 2012, 08:07:16 PM
also hope tacom and carisma can make a live joe gig this time  :balloons:

I hope tacom and carisma can see Joe as well  :goofy:

I also hope I can as well  :balloons:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 14, 2012, 11:18:59 PM
yes you gotta see joey poppet ---- cant you make new brighton ----- i have a room for 2  at travelodge ??????
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 15, 2012, 12:21:26 AM
from all the tweets, i'm getting so excited for this album!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 15, 2012, 01:14:20 PM
discussing outside of the forum about the fact that some of the songs from Joe on Classic had their words changed: in particular, changing "he" for "she", apparently in I Dreamed a Dream and She Was Beautiful

I didn't know the songs before Joe's album (or never really listened to IDAD). Did anyone know the song and did you find it weird that the gender was changed?
Also, is there any gay male artist out there that you know of who singing songs about men?

I am just wondering if anyone does it already and what it would mean for Joe to sing a "love" song about a man.

(just opening discussion/opinions/ideas - is it ok to talk about it on this thread?)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 15, 2012, 01:57:27 PM
sandy IDAD is from LE MIS -- we have heard it from that musical --- and susan boyle sings it ---- i dont know why it was changed to she -- as joe is an out gay  guy ----- so personally dont know why it was changed unless they  felt it was better  accepted  with classical crossover fans really --- so no emphasis on the word HE --- so got joe to sing ----- SHE ----- altho he is gay .------ joe when he sang  adeles --- someone like you ----- sings it as adele -- a woman sings this song ----- joe sings to that som eone --- you met a girl and married now --- so its obviously a man -- he sings about on this song --- also  she can give you things i cant give to you  etc ----- i  think some  songs  on  WA ----- have NO GENDER  specifics  at all --- maybe joe could write a love song --- but say words like --- YOU --- YOUR  --- my  love --- but not  have a particular gender  really ----- i cant right now  think of any gay singer with any  songs written to a man ---  maybe there are some but i cant remember --- maybe joe may write one but -- i guess he  may write with no specific gender maybe--- my guess is joes haters and critics will say   if joe wrote a love song -- its to a man ---- as i remember when joe came out --- joes critics said -- who wants to hear joe  who is gay sing love songs to a man ---- so maybe no gender on songs maybe >>>>> sandy personally if joe did write a love song to a man  i would think it was absolutly fine -- ok with me.-- i am a realist . he is gay --- his love songs would be to a man  in reality ---- by the way sandy interesting --- c onversation / discussion 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 15, 2012, 02:09:11 PM
yes, Trudy, I thought about the Adele's song. I actually really like the fact that he sings "you found a girl" and "she gives you things I couldn't give to you".
I think that's where the emotion lies for his version: he is in love with that man who actually found a woman, and it's tragic.
It gives a different dimension to the text. I love it.

I guess Freddy Mercury never sang about a man. Otherwise you would know ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 15, 2012, 02:36:12 PM
yes sandy ------ thats why i love joes  someone like you ---- adele has all her emotion --- but -- to me ----- joes one has the assumption --- that  he falls in love with that special someone ---- who then falls in love with a girl and marries ( bisexuals often love men in youth but end up married  to women  and have childen when older) this  song for joe is very emotional  as you feel for him losing his special  someone to a giirl--- emotional as you say sandy ------ i think WIDE AWAKE ---- about a first  kiss / first touch etc ----- and im wide awake --- to his sexuality id say -------- also someone wake me up  etc --- subtle  but about sexuality  being woken up  etc --- see some of the words --- but --- no gender specifics ---- deffo lots of wide awake ---- waking up to his sexuality ------ joe didnt writer songs but suited to  joes coming out --- superman / fareheheit etc--- i personally would be very happy  that joe felt comfortyable enough to write a love song to a man ----- i cant think of a specific song freddie wrote to a man ---- im still thinlking ---- i know he wrote non gender specics about sombody to love --- as in sombody -- but no gender to that somebody ------ he wrote killer queen  etc  bo rap  etc  io will thjink some more  about queen / elton etc -- maybe GM wrote about a man --- he wrote come outside ( where he was forced to come out after toilet incident) i will keep thinking  sandy ------ mind you ---- joe is an out gay singer --- the youngest  uk  gay singer i beleive --- freddie came out only on death bed im afraid in 1991 ------ freddie died year joe was born .joe was braver than freddie im afread freddies fans knew he was gay but he wouldnt tell media-- he said it would destroy his career etc --- joe is alot braver  to come out at 19 years old  before his 1st album -- brave inspirational  move for a young gay artist sandy
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 15, 2012, 02:47:03 PM
I believe most songs would be non specific for the gender. So they would "talk" to all audience.
I think Joe needs to sing to men and women, even if we know he is gay, I think the majority of his songs need to be directed to both. But having a few directed to men would be nice too.
Maybe in the future when he has more experience of relationships...

Wide Awake is great because it can be a man or a woman. I'm thinking that most songs are like this.

Is there any gay female artist singing about loving a woman??
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 15, 2012, 03:08:47 PM
isnt gaga/ pink bisexual????? ---- i know more gay male singers than  females ---- a gay female won fame acadamy ????????------ i agree joe will probably write non gender songs  anyway ----- i think when he is  a little older he may write to a man  ??????? more experiance --- he is a young guy at moment --- most singerrs havent even come out for ages yet --- joe came out young in this music bizzz sandy --- useually covered up by fake girlfriends ----- joe just came out berfore his career started . his fans have  known about joe being gay for ages but still think non gender songs altho someone like you  was in vein  of song -- maybe ballad .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on March 15, 2012, 04:02:17 PM
yes, Trudy, I thought about the Adele's song. I actually really like the fact that he sings "you found a girl" and "she gives you things I couldn't give to you".
I think that's where the emotion lies for his version: he is in love with that man who actually found a woman, and it's tragic.
It gives a different dimension to the text. I love it.


Yes - I liked that aspect to it too.

And Freddie Mercury was never publicly out so he wouldn't have sung about men.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 15, 2012, 05:04:13 PM
agree jude --- i like the aspect in someone like you -- that its to a man who found a girl as i pointed that song out to sandy in particular as it has that aspect to it too ---  and we can get that emotional  aspect out in that song .

 i also said freddie  wasnt out until death bed  night before he died --- altho  freddie had a gay video surrounded by gay men -- in freddies solo song -- living on my own (  altho he actually lived with a man jim at that time -- of writing song)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on March 15, 2012, 05:26:45 PM
I believe most songs would be non specific for the gender. So they would "talk" to all audience.
I think Joe needs to sing to men and women, even if we know he is gay, I think the majority of his songs need to be directed to both. But having a few directed to men would be nice too.
Maybe in the future when he has more experience of relationships...

Wide Awake is great because it can be a man or a woman. I'm thinking that most songs are like this.

Is there any gay female artist singing about loving a woman??
there is, I remember it being on tv a bit back :run: to find it
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on March 15, 2012, 05:39:42 PM
got it, it was country singer and songwriter Chely Wright - like me
Quote
And who's gonna end up holdin' your hand-
A beautiful woman or a tall, handsome man?
There's no doubt they'll love you, but it's yet to be seen:
Will anyone ever know you like me?

she talked about it on the Ellen show I think(watch too many talk shows when I'm bored :lol:)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 15, 2012, 06:36:48 PM
so it's definitely not something common.
Maybe Joe would not even want to sing about just one person, but maybe more about how it doesn't matter who you love as long as you love them.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 15, 2012, 06:55:28 PM
very good one sandy -- as you say not one single person singled out  but that its not who you love but that you love them === along the lines of love is love no matter who its with ------ shall we go help joe write something like that ??????


 also alex parks  was the gay female who won fame academy --- along with will who won pop idol---- joe who won xf2009 -- they were 3 gay pop / talent winners in uk
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on March 15, 2012, 07:08:10 PM
Wonder if kd lang has any songs with a lesbian theme?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 15, 2012, 07:10:37 PM
yes jude --- i know of her but not her songs --- shes ultra masculine woman   KD LANG  --- maybe she would have one
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on March 15, 2012, 07:12:32 PM
so it's definitely not something common.
Maybe Joe would not even want to sing about just one person, but maybe more about how it doesn't matter who you love as long as you love them.
not saying it is not common, it is the only one I happen to know about ;)
think especially for a country singer it was generally well received.
Would think for Joe it is key to write/ sing songs about emotions, because he knows how to translate that into singing, depending on where his emotions lie at the time he is writing, he should write about that.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 15, 2012, 07:22:24 PM
Mihi: I was saying not a common thing, because we couldn't really think of singers doing it. it's good you found one!!!  :thumbsup:  :bravo:
Trudy: yes, let's help Joe  :snigger: but I'm sure he has one already ;) he's a clever little thing ;)
Jude: I don't know KD Lang...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on March 15, 2012, 07:24:00 PM
after a bit of google research, sorry for the dutch but it is a bilingual website ;)
Quote
* American Triangle. A song from 2001 by Elton John about the murder on gay student Matthew Shepard. See also the song 'Scarecrow' by Melissa Etheridge.
Een liedje uit 2001 door Elton John over de moord op de homoseksuele student Matthew Shepard. Zie ook het lied 'Scarecrow' door Melissa Etheridge.

* Anders dan Anderen. Song by Dutch comedian/singer/lyricist/TV personality André van Duin about his coming-out.
Lied door komiek/zanger/tekstschrijver/TV persoonlijkheid André van Duin over zijn coming-out.

* Blote jongens in het park Dutch singer Paul de Leeuw watches the perfect naked guys in the park and regrets his own body and all this to a summer melody.
Paul de Leeuw bekijkt de perfecte blote jongens in het park en treurt over zijn eigen figuur en dit alles op een zomerse melodie.

* Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other. Country singer Willie Nelson recorded this song after the release of the movie Brokeback Mountain.
Countryzanger Willie Nelson nam deze song op nadat de film Brokeback Mountain uitgekomen was.

* Glad to be gay. Tom Robinson's protest against discrimination of gay people. There are different lyrics to this song, written in different times.
Dit is Tom Robinson's protest tegen de discriminatie van homoseksuelen. Er zijn verschillende teksten op dit lied, gemaakt in diverse tijden.

* Hé, kleine pot. Dutch performer, playwright, singer (a.o.) Paul Haenen sang this song on one of his albums.
Paul Haenen zong dit nummer op een van zijn albums.

* I am what I am. This song by Jerry Herman is from the musical 'La cage aux folles', which opened at the Palace Theatre in New York City on august 21, 1983. The song is adopted by the gay men and women as one of their anthems. Gay icon Dame Shirley Bassey recorded it and Disco Queen Gloria Gaynor made a disco version.
Dit lied dat werd geschreven door Jerry Herman komt uit de musical 'La cage aux folles', die zijn premiere had in het Palace Theatre in New York City op 21 augustus 1983. Het lied is door homoseksuele mannen en vrouwen geadopteerd als een van hun hymnes. Dame Shirley Bassey heeft het ook opgenomen en disco queen Gloria Gaynor heeft een disco versie op de plaat gezet.

* I.W.I.W.A.L. (I wish I was a lesbian) is a funny song by Loudon Wainwright.
Een grappig liedje door Loudon Wainwright.

* The killing of Georgie, part 1 & 2. A song by Rod Stewart about the death of a gay friend.
Een lied door Rod Stewart over de dood van een homoseksuele vriend.

* Legendary children. Former singer of Frankie Goes to Hollywood (FGtH), Holly Johnson pays a tribute to gay people in history.
De voormalige zanger van Frankie Goes to Hollywood (FGtH), Holly Johnson doet een ode aan homoseksuele mensen uit de geschiedenis.

* Luister Anita. The only song for which dutch gay icon 'Zangeres zonder Naam' has ever written lyrics after hearing the way American singer Anita Bryant was campaining against gays. There are some great pictures of Anita Bryant on the page.
Het enige lied waarvoor Homo-koningin 'Zangeres zonder Naam' zelf de tekst heeft geschreven, nadat zij gehoord had op welke manier de Amerikaanse zangeres Anita Bryant campagne had gevoerd tegen homoseksuelen. Er zijn een aantal leuke foto's van Anita Bryant op de page.

* Mensen zonder gladde ringen A song by Dutch singer Willem Nijholt. The composer / writer of the song is anonymous (!).
Een lied dat gezongen is door Willem Nijholt. De componist en tekstschrijver van het lied is anoniem (!).

* Mujer contra Mujer. The most popular single of the Spanish group Mecano is from their album 'Descanso Dominical' from 1988. The song deals with a lesbian relationship, seen through the eyes of a friend, who only later realizes what is going on. It was recorded in French ("Une Femme avec une Femme"), English, and Italian.
De meest populaire single van de Spaanse groep Mecano (Hijo de la Luna) komt van hun album 'Descanso Dominical' uit 1988. Het lied gaat over een lesbische relatie, gezien door de ogen van een vriend, die pas later begrijpt wat er aan de hand is. Het lied is opgenomen in Frans ("Une Femme avec une Femme"), Engels en Italiaans.

* The night I fell in love. This song from the Pet Shop Boys on their 2002 album 'Release' tells about a gay one night stand with rapper Eminem, but without mentioning his name.
Deze song staat op het album van de Pet Shop Boys uit 2002 'Release' en verteld het verhaal van een 'one night stand' met Eminem, echter zonder zijn naam te noemen.

* No Clause 28 is Boy George's protest against Clause 28.
Dit is het protest van Boy George tegen Clause 28.

* Romeo en Julio. Dutch straight singer Jules de Corte made a song about two young gay men falling in love.
De Nederlandse heteroseksuele zanger Jules de Corte maakt een lied over twee jonge homoseksuele mannen die verliefd worden.

* Romeo en Julius : See 'Sorry dat ik besta'.
Zie 'Sorry dat ik besta'.

* In Sacha by Belgian singer Lilian St. Pierre she sings about a friend she was in love with who turned out te be gay.
In Sacha zingt de Belgische zangeres Lilian St. Pierre over een vriend waar ze verliefd op was maar die homoseksueel bleek te zijn.

* Scarecrow by Melissa Etheridge is just like Elton John's 'American Triangle' a song about the cruel murder on gay student Matthew Shepard.
Dit lied van Melissa Etheridge verteld net zoals Elton John's 'American Triangle' over de wrede moord op de homoseksuele student Matthew Shepard.

* Small town boy was in 1984 the first hit single by Jimmy Somerville and Bronski Beat and can be found on their album "Hundreds and thousands".
Dit was in 1984 de eerste hitsingle van Jimmy Somerville en Bronski Beat en staat op hun album "Hundreds and thousands".

* So much in love (lesbian love) is sung by the Flirtations in their live album "Out in the road".
Dit wordt gezongen door de Flirtations op hun live album "Out on the road".

* Sorry dat ik besta as sung by Willem Nijholt (in 1977) and Paul de Leeuw (in 2001) in the musical 'Foxtrot', which is situated in the (19)thirthies. In the 2001 version of the musical the title of the song is changed to 'Romeo en Julius'.
Zoals gezongen door Willem Nijholt (in 1977) en Paul de Leeuw (in 2001) in de musical Foxtrot, die zich afspeelt in de dertiger jaren van de vorige eeuw. In de 2001 versie van de musical is de titel van het lied gewijzigd in 'Romeo en Julius'.

* There's more to love than boy meets girl as sung by the Communards (Jimmy Somerville).
Gezongen door de Communards (Jimmy Somerville).

* Thorbeckeplein by Dutch singer, writer, playwright, TV- and Radio presenter Robert Long from the album 'Levenslang' from 1977 tells the story of the relationship between a gay man and a married (gay?/bisexual?) man.
Dit lied door de Nederlandse zanger, schrijver. toneelschrijver en TV- en Radiopresentator Robert Long van het album 'Levenslang' uit 1977 verteld het verhaal van een relatie tussen een homoseksuele man en een getrouwde (homoseksuele?/biseksuele?) man.

* Tuesday Morning. This song was written by Melissa Etheridge after hearing that a gay partner of a man who was killed during the 9-11 attacks wasn't receiving a benefit from the government. She sings the song on her 2004 album 'Lucky'.
Deze song is geschreven door Melissa Etheridge nadat zij gehoord had dat een homoseksuele partner van een man die tijdens de aanvallen op 11 september was omgekomen geen genoegdoening mocht ontvangen van de regering. Ze zingt het lied op haar album 'Lucky' uit 2004.

* Voorjaar (Amsterdam). A song about a boy who for the first time encounters the gay world in Amsterdam in 1940, sung by Frans Bakker.
Een lied over een jongen die in 1940 de homowereld van Amsterdam ontdekt, gezongen door Frans Bakker.

* What makes a man is a song written and sung by the French/Armenian singer Charles Aznavour.
Dit is een lied geschreven en gezongen door de Frans/Armeense zanger Charles Aznavour.

haven't had time to read it all, but it seems like quite a few of them ;)
and @ sandy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.d._lang
most known for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXqPjx94YMg&ob=av2e I think
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Post by: s on March 15, 2012, 07:29:32 PM
I remember this one:
" Mujer contra Mujer. The most popular single of the Spanish group Mecano is from their album 'Descanso Dominical' from 1988. The song deals with a lesbian relationship, seen through the eyes of a friend, who only later realizes what is going on. It was recorded in French ("Une Femme avec une Femme"), English, and Italian. "

this is the spanish version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBSWJ6KGDV8

thanks for that. Journey on memory lane  :D
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Post by: s on March 15, 2012, 07:31:02 PM
Oh, look what I found... the French version of the song with English subtitles!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxCqz66L2mo

I love her accent. French is so beautiful when it is sung/spoken by a non French speaker...  :bravo:
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 15, 2012, 07:47:47 PM
thanks for all the info everyone!
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Post by: Trudy on March 15, 2012, 07:50:14 PM
i knew of i am what iam  and frankie goes to hollywod     YMCA etc ------- dont know many KD lang  really
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Post by: Poppet68 on March 15, 2012, 08:23:22 PM
Trudy I would love to share a room with you, but U can't go to the gig, as I have a family wedding.
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Post by: Tacom on March 15, 2012, 09:27:38 PM
The first time I heard Joe sing Someone Like You , I instantly made me think of way back when...when I fell in love with a straight man. I knew he was straight, but you can't help it when you fall in love.
That exact emotion is what I feel when Joe sing it. Not that I feel he has ever had it in real life, but Joe is such a great interpreter of each song's story.

I am not too keen on gay themes in music. Love is universal and I sure don't want Joe to sing lyrics that are obviously gay.
When he sings Someone Like You, it is not too obvious and perfectly genuine.
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Post by: carisma on March 15, 2012, 09:39:47 PM
 :goodpost:  Tacom and I agree - something with a gay theme can sound contrived rather than genuine.

 I'm afraid I don't like the gender change in I Dreamed A Dream and I think it changes the whole meaning of the song.  This verse in particular kind of grates a little on me with the gender change (although I am not  sure keeping the gender the same and a man singing it would work either)

He slept a summer by my side
He filled my dreams with endless wonder
He took my childhood in his stride
But he was gone when autumn came 

and to me it is not real.

On the other hand Joe can sing Love Story and I totally believe it  :D

SLY works so well too for the reasons given - it is not so much about the gender but whether the song makes sense and can be believed.

I also believe it matters not so much who the singer is singing to, but what the listener identifies with.


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Post by: roec on March 15, 2012, 09:43:16 PM
George Michael, Elton John, Will Young etc do not sing songs specificaly to men, i really don't think anyone has done it!
& ye might all think this is a very un pc thing to say but it is not what the vast majority of people want to hear/would not be seen as commerical so i really don't think it would be a good idea for Joe at all!
So i don't think what he sings should have he/she etc. but stuff like you etc. if required
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Post by: s on March 15, 2012, 09:47:08 PM
George Michael, Elton John, Will Young etc do not sing songs specificaly to men, i really don't think anyone has done it!
& ye might all think this is a very un pc thing to say but it is not what the vast majority of people want to hear/would not be seen as commerical so i really don't think it would be a good idea for Joe at all!
So i don't think what he sings should have he/she etc. but stuff like you etc. if required

yes, I think that too, because it's easier for everyone to relate to the song then.
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Post by: Hayley on March 15, 2012, 09:47:44 PM
Agree with Taco and Carisma.  :-)  :goodpost:
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Post by: sandyrose102 on March 15, 2012, 09:48:22 PM
George Michael, Elton John, Will Young etc do not sing songs specificaly to men, i really don't think anyone has done it!
& ye might all think this is a very un pc thing to say but it is not what the vast majority of people want to hear/would not be seen as commerical so i really don't think it would be a good idea for Joe at all!
So i don't think what he sings should have he/she etc. but stuff like you etc. if required

I agree with you Tacom and carisma and roec and I especially think this is the case if he is being aimed at America in due course. 
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Post by: Trudy on March 15, 2012, 10:06:41 PM
good post tacom - :goodpost:-- i thinkthat  your post was very good i feel that someone like you is very beleivable  and makes lots of sense  and is emotional; song --- i hope joe has a song similar to SLY on album 4 ---- i dont think joe would write  anything to a guy -- i think joes songs will not have a gender  in them as we had said before -- most songs say you/ your /  rather than state a specific gender  in a song .
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Post by: kanga samps on March 15, 2012, 10:21:51 PM
I agree with what you are all saying about the use of gender in the song, better to be subtle and not specific.

Carisma - you made a really good point that it is all about what the listener identifies with. I make my favourite songs fit things that are personal to me, occasionally it is exactly what was intended by the writer and other times it is a little off the wall.

A lot of people were talking about the song Wide Awake yesterday and now that time has passed I do think it remains a stand out song ( particularly any live version ) . It's a mature song and because of that would still be current in many years time, very sad that it has not been heard by enough people.

Do you think there is any merit in doing a petition or similiar across the fanbase to ask Joe/ the label to consider using a live version on an album ( possibly album 4 ) as a bonus track ?
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Post by: litcar on March 15, 2012, 10:30:01 PM
:goodpost:  Tacom and I agree - something with a gay theme can sound contrived rather than genuine.

 I'm afraid I don't like the gender change in I Dreamed A Dream and I think it changes the whole meaning of the song.  This verse in particular kind of grates a little on me with the gender change (although I am not  sure keeping the gender the same and a man singing it would work either)

He slept a summer by my side
He filled my dreams with endless wonder
He took my childhood in his stride
But he was gone when autumn came 

and to me it is not real.

On the other hand Joe can sing Love Story and I totally believe it  :D

SLY works so well too for the reasons given - it is not so much about the gender but whether the song makes sense and can be believed.

I also believe it matters not so much who the singer is singing to, but what the listener identifies with.


I have never seen Les Miserable so I really don't know what the story is about so to me this song may not mean the same as it does to those who know and love LM. Whenever I hear Joe sing this song I never think of him singing about a lover either male or female but about fame and success.

The verse that you quoted in particular to me makes me think of how Joe was feeling when recording the album and how in the Summer he had all these dreams but by the time autumn came fame and success seemed like they had left him.

Sorry if what I wrote might annoy people who really love LM but I'm not trying to change the meaning of the song its just what I feel when I listen to it.
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on March 15, 2012, 10:43:16 PM
Litcar - that's exactly how I feel about I Dreamed a Dream sung by Joe - I'm a LM lover.
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Post by: carisma on March 15, 2012, 10:44:39 PM
But it shouldn't annoy anyone Litcar - that is what I meant that it is what the listener identifies with more than who/what the singer is singing to.

I have never seen Les Mis either so you certainly haven't offended me - maybe when I next listen to it I will listen to it with your meaning in mind and see if it makes any difference to me. :)

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Post by: judetheobscure on March 15, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
That is a great interpretation litcar. It's not the meaning from Les Mis but it's a really clever way of making the lyrics personal to Joe. I too will listen to it with new ears.
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Post by: litcar on March 15, 2012, 10:49:10 PM
But it shouldn't annoy anyone Litcar - that is what I meant that it is what the listener identifies with more than who/what the singer is singing to.

I have never seen Les Mis either so you certainly haven't offended me - maybe when I next listen to it I will listen to it with your meaning in mind and see if it makes any difference to me. :)

I just know that some people are very passionate about LM and I'm feeling a bit fragile today so the last thing I want to do is upset somebody on here as it seems I've upset everybody else around me.  :cry:
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Post by: carisma on March 15, 2012, 10:51:25 PM
But it shouldn't annoy anyone Litcar - that is what I meant that it is what the listener identifies with more than who/what the singer is singing to.

I have never seen Les Mis either so you certainly haven't offended me - maybe when I next listen to it I will listen to it with your meaning in mind and see if it makes any difference to me. :)

I just know that some people are very passionate about LM and I'm feeling a bit fragile today so the last thing I want to do is upset somebody on here as it seems I've upset everybody else around me.  :cry:

Aww Litcar sorry you feel like that  :bighug:  Hope everything is OK.
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Post by: Liz on March 15, 2012, 10:51:50 PM
Aww Carmen  :hug:
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Post by: Trudy on March 15, 2012, 11:02:06 PM
 awwwwww carmen / litcar --- you wont upset me either --- i love your interpretation  of IDAD -- its good  way to put it  too  big hugs :bighug: :hug: :friends:
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 15, 2012, 11:27:41 PM
some really good posts on here! agree with you taco amd carisma and litcar will also listen to the song with new ears!
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Post by: Poppet68 on March 16, 2012, 05:22:18 AM
Great posts  :clap:  :thumbsup:  :bravo:
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Post by: s on March 16, 2012, 12:59:56 PM
totally agree with the meaning of the song from Litcar.
I have just been to read the lyrics of the song, and it tells the story of the Joe on XFactor and then afterwards.
I never really listened to the lyrics. Even when Joe sings. I don't really like this song. (might be in trouble for this, but hey ho...  :haha: )
So I never thought of the meaning of it (just don't care about this one...)



Still don't like it, even after reading the words separately to the music...  :whistle:
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Post by: Trudy on March 16, 2012, 01:05:44 PM
sandy its my least fave song of joes --- its subos song --- but i love litcars meaning to it
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Post by: s on March 16, 2012, 01:07:09 PM
sandy its my least fave song of joes --- its subos song --- but i love litcars meaning to it

yeah! I might not like it because I can just figure her singing it... and I don't particularly warmed to her, so...
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Post by: Trudy on March 16, 2012, 01:12:02 PM
snap sandy --- i dont like subo at all --- saw mary byrne today on TM --- singing  as long as  he needs me --- did not  like herr version -- sounderd a bit subo to me  yuk  :zero:
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Post by: Tacom on March 16, 2012, 06:13:39 PM

I just know that some people are very passionate about LM and I'm feeling a bit fragile today so the last thing I want to do is upset somebody on here as it seems I've upset everybody else around me.  :cry:

Well I guess you can easily say that I am slightly passionate about Les Mis. :-)
Actually the way you feel that songs is about when Joe sings it, is new to me, never thought about it that way, but you hit it right on the spot.

When Joe (or anyone else) sings IDAD,  out of the context of the musical, the real meaning is not important for me.
The changings they made for Joe, the He into She and stuff, are only noticable for me because I heard the original lyrics so many times.
In the musical this song is very emotional, very powerful and for me a highlight especially when it is sung well.
Joe;s version I especially like because of the Voice of course, but also the classic production, bringing the song back to its origins. Love it.

So no Litcar, you certainly did not upset me, on the contrary you gave me a knew meaning to Joe's version, thank you for that! :bighug:
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Post by: litcar on March 16, 2012, 06:27:02 PM

I just know that some people are very passionate about LM and I'm feeling a bit fragile today so the last thing I want to do is upset somebody on here as it seems I've upset everybody else around me.  :cry:

Well I guess you can easily say that I am slightly passionate about Les Mis. :-)
Actually the way you feel that songs is about when Joe sings it, is new to me, never thought about it that way, but you hit it right on the spot.

When Joe (or anyone else) sings IDAD,  out of the context of the musical, the real meaning is not important for me.
The changings they made for Joe, the He into She and stuff, are only noticable for me because I heard the original lyrics so many times.
In the musical this song is very emotional, very powerful and for me a highlight especially when it is sung well.
Joe;s version I especially like because of the Voice of course, but also the classic production, bringing the song back to its origins. Love it.

So no Litcar, you certainly did not upset me, on the contrary you gave me a knew meaning to Joe's version, thank you for that! :bighug:

Oh thank you Tacom for replying to my posts. I was really worried that I might have upset you by what I said as I know that you love LM. :bighug:
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Post by: SpanishJoeFan on March 16, 2012, 07:13:32 PM
Oh, look what I found... the French version of the song with English subtitles!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxCqz66L2mo

I love her accent. French is so beautiful when it is sung/spoken by a non French speaker...  :bravo:

Ooohhh memories!

Can you believe I never heard the French version before??

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Post by: s on March 16, 2012, 08:26:36 PM
 :shock1: whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??? you never heard it?
well I guess they did it for France and didn't perform it in Spain...  :haha:
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Post by: SpanishJoeFan on March 16, 2012, 08:36:09 PM
No, I think they didn't perform it in French here very often, hehe!

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Post by: judetheobscure on March 17, 2012, 01:26:51 AM
Billy Turnbull ‏ @billyt1991 
Can I just say ... You guys will all be buzzing at the song @joemcelderry91 has written and demo'd today #proud ! Xx
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Post by: Hayley on March 17, 2012, 01:34:11 AM
Billy Turnbull ‏ @billyt1991 
Can I just say ... You guys will all be buzzing at the song @joemcelderry91 has written and demo'd today #proud ! Xx


Awww love it.  :choir3:
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 17, 2012, 01:35:40 AM
Asked if he could say more:

Billy Turnbull ‏ @billyt1991
@LianeLuvsJoe @joemcelderry91 unfortunatly not.... But it is massive loving songs ! ... The secret is more exciting I say :) xx
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Post by: blackenroses on March 17, 2012, 02:49:25 AM
Billy Turnbull ‏ @billyt1991 
Can I just say ... You guys will all be buzzing at the song @joemcelderry91 has written and demo'd today #proud ! Xx


 
Asked if he could say more:

Billy Turnbull ‏ @billyt1991
@LianeLuvsJoe @joemcelderry91 unfortunatly not.... But it is massive loving songs ! ... The secret is more exciting I say :) xx


Thanks Jude! Awww :hurrah: :goofy: :thumbsup: :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Trudy on March 17, 2012, 02:52:20 AM
so proud of joe  writing his own songs --- and billys proud too AWWWWW SWEET :ilovejoe:
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Post by: carm on March 17, 2012, 12:11:57 PM
Billy certainly sounds very proud of Joe  :balloons:
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Post by: carisma on March 17, 2012, 03:08:10 PM
How great for Joe to have such a loyal friend, who is not afraid to say how proud he is of him  :cool:  I am trying to decipher Billy's tweet though. :D  When I first read it I thought he meant meant 'a huge love song' but now I can see he probably meant a song that the 'massive will love'   :rofl2:
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Post by: MEW on March 17, 2012, 03:22:24 PM
How great for Joe to have such a loyal friend, who is not afraid to say how proud he is of him  :cool:  I am trying to decipher Billy's tweet though. :D  When I first read it I thought he meant meant 'a huge love song' but now I can see he probably meant a song that the 'massive will love'   :rofl2:
or about him loving the massive? :wacko:
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Post by: carisma on March 17, 2012, 03:42:25 PM
How great for Joe to have such a loyal friend, who is not afraid to say how proud he is of him  :cool:  I am trying to decipher Billy's tweet though. :D  When I first read it I thought he meant meant 'a huge love song' but now I can see he probably meant a song that the 'massive will love'   :rofl2:
or about him loving the massive? :wacko:

Oh yeah there is that too  :snigger: that's my favourite meaning   :cool2:
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Post by: s on March 17, 2012, 03:47:59 PM
Yeah I like that too mew.  :snigger: was just about to post that.
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Post by: KR51 on March 17, 2012, 05:40:26 PM
How great for Joe to have such a loyal friend, who is not afraid to say how proud he is of him  :cool:  I am trying to decipher Billy's tweet though. :D  When I first read it I thought he meant meant 'a huge love song' but now I can see he probably meant a song that the 'massive will love'   :rofl2:
or about him loving the massive? :wacko:

Oh yeah there is that too  :snigger: that's my favourite meaning   :cool2:

I bet this is the meaning too. I remember reading several tweets sent to Joe that he should write a song about the #mcelderrymassive. It would be the icing on the cake if he did.  :choir3: :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Trudy on March 17, 2012, 07:16:38 PM
 i  think that the song is a song the fans will love  and not  necessatily about the fans 
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Post by: roec on March 17, 2012, 08:56:06 PM
Love Billy's tweet, sounds brill  :hurrah:
When Billy says massive i think he means that it is super :-)
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Post by: carisma on March 17, 2012, 08:57:33 PM
i  think that the song is a song the fans will love  and not  necessatily about the fans

I was joking Trudy  :blush:

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Post by: Trudy on March 17, 2012, 09:36:00 PM
carisma --- ok its a joke --- it was more mew -- who said  a song abouty the  massive --- but -- i just think its  meant to be a massive song the fans will love
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 18, 2012, 03:35:14 PM
billy's tweet has made me so excited!!! :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on March 18, 2012, 06:06:14 PM
Rachel Schofield ‏ @RacoBean  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Well its been a day of listening to sneaky demos from @builtlikeagun &joemcelderry91 ....#topnotchboys
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 18, 2012, 07:04:51 PM
ooo, exciting!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 18, 2012, 07:10:42 PM
do we know who "built like a gun" is?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on March 18, 2012, 07:11:09 PM
Rachel Schofield ‏ @RacoBean  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Well its been a day of listening to sneaky demos from @builtlikeagun &joemcelderry91 ....#topnotchboys

Think this is Joe's cousin Rachel.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 18, 2012, 07:17:09 PM
Rachel Schofield ‏ @RacoBean  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Well its been a day of listening to sneaky demos from @builtlikeagun &joemcelderry91 ....#topnotchboys

Think this is Joe's cousin Rachel.

Oh, is she his cousin? I wondered, because he said he was cooking for his mum and family. I thought maybe he included some friends in there.
But who is @builtlikeagun she is mentioning in her tweet??
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on March 18, 2012, 07:21:56 PM
His bio:
Built Like a Gun
@BuiltlikeaGun
Shooting Northern Musical Bullets since 2012
In the Practice Room

So some sort of musician or something. :blush:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on March 18, 2012, 07:23:10 PM
Rachel Schofield ‏ @RacoBean  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Well its been a day of listening to sneaky demos from @builtlikeagun &joemcelderry91 ....#topnotchboys

Think this is Joe's cousin Rachel.

Oh, is she his cousin? I wondered, because he said he was cooking for his mum and family. I thought maybe he included some friends in there.
But who is @builtlikeagun she is mentioning in her tweet??

Yep pretty sure that is his cousin Rachel, have no idea who builtlikeagun is and his bio doesn't really give anything away and he doesn't really tweet so who knows.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on March 18, 2012, 07:40:40 PM
BuiltlikeaGun's sounds on SoundCloud - Create, record and share ...
soundcloud.com/builtlikeagun
2 Feb 2012 – Formed in 2012 Built Like a Gun have only played to friends and contemporaries and are busy writing and recording for a Summer launch.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on March 18, 2012, 07:41:18 PM
http://soundcloud.com/builtlikeagun 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 18, 2012, 09:56:45 PM
hmmm. thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 19, 2012, 12:10:04 AM
rachel is deffo cousin rachel -- she is raco bean --- so she must of been at joes mums day meal with her mum kristine ----- eileens sister ----- and probably grandma hilda too
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on March 19, 2012, 07:58:04 PM
Excited about the recent tweets.  :hurrah:  :goofy:
Yes Billy is a true friend someone who would tell Joe the truth if he did not like a song. True friends don't come along very often, I feel they will be for ever.  :friends: :friends:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sug60 on March 19, 2012, 08:40:27 PM
We need more Billy's in the world he is a true friend of Joe and  if he did not agree or like something Joe did i am sure he would tell him. Glad Joe's meal was okay the lad did good but we never doubted him ahh bless him.  :ilovejoe: :wavehat: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 19, 2012, 10:26:29 PM
billy and ash are both good friends to joe hope they all stay friends for ever
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Post by: Poppet68 on March 19, 2012, 10:33:52 PM
I hope so too.  I am sure he will have more good friends in the future, but you can't beat your old ones.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 19, 2012, 11:07:44 PM
yes poppet dont know how long joes known ash --- but --- joe and billy were about 10 years old when they knew each other -- billy told us at york they met at about 10 yrs old
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on March 19, 2012, 11:59:53 PM
Ash was at performing arts college with him wasn't she, so she'd know him since then i suppose, 3/4 maybe
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on March 20, 2012, 12:48:40 AM
yes roec about   4 years id say as we have all heard of joe for nearly 3 years so id say ashes known joe at least 4 years  and billy 10 years . good friends to joe .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 20, 2012, 09:53:21 AM
Hope they all stay friends forever!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 22, 2012, 06:49:19 PM
just saw this tweet retweeted by Jai and thought it would fit this thread:


Inspirational Quotes ‏ @Inspire_Us  Reply  Retweeted  Favorite · Open
All great achievements require time. - Maya Angelou
Retweeted by Jai McDowall


 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on March 22, 2012, 08:52:10 PM
just saw this tweet retweeted by Jai and thought it would fit this thread:


Inspirational Quotes ‏ @Inspire_Us  Reply  Retweeted  Favorite · Open
All great achievements require time. - Maya Angelou
Retweeted by Jai McDowall


 :thumbsup:

 :goodpost: Sandy
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 23, 2012, 12:14:50 AM
I like it, thanks for posting sandy!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on March 26, 2012, 06:40:17 PM
Come on Joe, get back into the studio  :choir3:   :singer1:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on March 26, 2012, 07:54:14 PM
Doubt he will be doing much while he has Ash to distract him. lol! :whistle:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on March 26, 2012, 08:12:17 PM
Doubt he will be doing much while he has Ash to distract him. lol! :whistle:

True, she his Joe's sweetheart. 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 26, 2012, 10:40:37 PM
just read the review from trash lounge on Madonna's new album and it gave me butterflies for Joe's coming album... and it's still  about 6 or 7 months away...  :lol:
why start worrying so early?  :roll:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 26, 2012, 11:39:17 PM
come on joe, we want you back in that studio! :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on March 28, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
Quote
Joe has spent the past three weeks in the studio starting work on his next album, due for release in the autumn.

“I’ve not had this length of time to record since the first album.

“It’s going to be modern pop ballads – what people know me for really.”



Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2012/03/28/joe-mcelderry-to-star-in-coronation-street-musical-72703-30642471/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#ixzz1qPDVy9qA
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on March 28, 2012, 01:27:04 PM
Quote
Joe has spent the past three weeks in the studio starting work on his next album, due for release in the autumn.

“I’ve not had this length of time to record since the first album.

“It’s going to be modern pop ballads – what people know me for really.”



Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2012/03/28/joe-mcelderry-to-star-in-coronation-street-musical-72703-30642471/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#ixzz1qPDVy9qA

I like the sound of that  :thumbsup:  thanks for all the info blackenroses  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on March 28, 2012, 02:29:04 PM
ooo, sounds great!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on March 28, 2012, 04:53:03 PM
Quote
Joe has spent the past three weeks in the studio starting work on his next album, due for release in the autumn.

“I’ve not had this length of time to record since the first album.

“It’s going to be modern pop ballads – what people know me for really.”



Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2012/03/28/joe-mcelderry-to-star-in-coronation-street-musical-72703-30642471/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#ixzz1qPDVy9qA

I like the sound of that  :thumbsup:  thanks for all the info blackenroses  :-)
As long as the name of the album isn't "Modern". :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 28, 2012, 04:57:39 PM
Classic, The Sequel

 :D  :lol:

brilliant Mew!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on March 28, 2012, 06:12:25 PM
Like the sound of the new album. :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah: :wavehat: :wavehat: :goofy: :goofy: :goofy:
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Post by: Liz on March 29, 2012, 12:18:09 AM
Me too  :wavehat:
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Post by: Poppet68 on March 29, 2012, 03:42:34 AM
Me three  :wavehat:   :wavehat:   :wavehat:   :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on March 31, 2012, 12:40:29 AM
not sure if we posted this before when we talked about the people who work for Music Sales UK, but it's beautiful.
Ludivico Einaudi is a composer who works for Music Sales UK. I can't remember exactly, but they tweeted this at the time:

MusicSales Film&TV ‏ @MusicSalesUK  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Writing week Day 4: What a week it's been. New music coming from @LudovicoEinaud @BelleHumble @CassLowe @LouiseNThePins @forgetcape & more

so I guess he is part of the music writing team that worked with Joe.
and it makes me happy  :-)

http://www.vevo.com/watch/ludovico-einaudi/grenade/GBUV71101027
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Post by: Poppet68 on March 31, 2012, 12:44:58 AM
Thats great  :goodpost:
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Post by: KR51 on March 31, 2012, 08:03:18 AM
not sure if we posted this before when we talked about the people who work for Music Sales UK, but it's beautiful.
Ludivico Einaudi is a composer who works for Music Sales UK. I can't remember exactly, but they tweeted this at the time:

MusicSales Film&TV ‏ @MusicSalesUK  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Writing week Day 4: What a week it's been. New music coming from @LudovicoEinaud @BelleHumble @CassLowe @LouiseNThePins @forgetcape & more

so I guess he is part of the music writing team that worked with Joe.


and it makes me happy  :-)

http://www.vevo.com/watch/ludovico-einaudi/grenade/GBUV71101027

Thought Bruno Mars wrote all his own songs, but it seems not.
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Post by: pumpkin queen on March 31, 2012, 09:20:01 AM
not sure if we posted this before when we talked about the people who work for Music Sales UK, but it's beautiful.
Ludivico Einaudi is a composer who works for Music Sales UK. I can't remember exactly, but they tweeted this at the time:

MusicSales Film&TV ‏ @MusicSalesUK  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Writing week Day 4: What a week it's been. New music coming from @LudovicoEinaud @BelleHumble @CassLowe @LouiseNThePins @forgetcape & more

so I guess he is part of the music writing team that worked with Joe.
and it makes me happy  :-)

http://www.vevo.com/watch/ludovico-einaudi/grenade/GBUV71101027

Wow Thats sooooo beautiful :choir3:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Necara on March 31, 2012, 09:22:58 AM
I had a service guy around yesterday doing some work in my house. He was spitting his anger about David Milliband and his role in putting South Shields on the map. (I couldn't work out what his gripe was). My reply was that Joe McElderry has done more for putting South Shields on the map imo.  :-)

He then went into negative overdrive on how Joe shouldn't be doing pop and he was best doing stage.  :angry: Yes, blah blah blah! I drowned him out with the fact that Joe was just an extremely good singer and can do anything. I told him to watch out for his 4th album it was going to be pop with some self-penned lyrics. Watch this space mate!  :fingerscrossed: :goofy:

I do meet with some negativity from South Shields folk re Joe. Not sure why, but assume it is just plain jealousy.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on March 31, 2012, 10:16:09 AM
I had a service guy around yesterday doing some work in my house. He was spitting his anger about David Milliband and his role in putting South Shields on the map. (I couldn't work out what his gripe was). My reply was that Joe McElderry has done more for putting South Shields on the map imo.  :-)

He then went into negative overdrive on how Joe shouldn't be doing pop and he was best doing stage.  :angry: Yes, blah blah blah! I drowned him out with the fact that Joe was just an extremely good singer and can do anything. I told him to watch out for his 4th album it was going to be pop with some self-penned lyrics. Watch this space mate!  :fingerscrossed: :goofy:

I do meet with some negativity from South Shields folk re Joe. Not sure why, but assume it is just plain jealousy.

I'm sure there will be the odd few who suffer from the tall poppy syndrome of jealousy for someone doing better than they are, you always get that, but I was in the middle of over 20,000 South Shields folk at Bents Park last year cheering and loving Joe when he did his concert. The atmosphere was fantastic. :ilovejoe:
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Post by: judetheobscure on March 31, 2012, 01:22:59 PM
I'm also sure there are many for whom Joe is not to their taste and that's perfectly fine. It would be a dull dull world if we all liked the same thing.
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Post by: carm on March 31, 2012, 03:37:52 PM
That is so true  ;)
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Post by: Trudy on April 01, 2012, 12:56:25 AM
joes 4th album  will be brilliant  :ilovejoe: :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Poppet68 on April 01, 2012, 09:32:58 AM
Fingers crossed  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 01, 2012, 08:45:26 PM
hope joe had a good session today with tct!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 01, 2012, 08:52:56 PM
i don't think his songwriting session at the TCT has anything to do with his new album though, Jade.
it's just a workshop for the young people who are helped by the TCT. Something for them to do during the day, before they watch the show.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 01, 2012, 08:59:41 PM
agree sandy dont think today with TCT had anything to do with  joes songwriting for album
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 01, 2012, 09:05:49 PM
ah ok, that makes sense. :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on April 01, 2012, 09:39:41 PM
Agree this was for TCT  :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on April 02, 2012, 03:48:36 PM
I'm really looking forward to album no 4, if its released in October like Joe is saying, when do you think he will tour with it? Hope they don't leave it till the new year as people won't have much money left after xmas.
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on April 02, 2012, 03:50:00 PM
I'm really looking forward to album no 4, if its released in October like Joe is saying, when do you think he will tour with it? Hope they don't leave it till the new year as people won't have much money left after xmas.

having no money hasn't stopped me so far...  :blush: :whistle:

wonder when the bank will send in the bailiffs?  :run:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JoeMegaFan on April 02, 2012, 05:58:36 PM
My worry with November is the weather - last year was ok, the year before was horrendous!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on April 02, 2012, 05:59:41 PM
I'm really looking forward to album no 4, if its released in October like Joe is saying, when do you think he will tour with it? Hope they don't leave it till the new year as people won't have much money left after xmas.

Really hope they keep to the September/October date as that would be good for some of the TV shows around then.  Sales really start to pick up around then too- just hoping he can avoid other big releases around that time.  I guess if the album is out in October a single will be released way before then in perhaps July/August especially if they plan to release a 2nd.  Just a thought. :-)

(Who knows - if The Voice does really well SCowell might need to bring back some of his 'serious' vocal talent from the past onto his show to perform- to prove that X factor was a singing contest after all and not just a circus!!!!)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on April 02, 2012, 06:02:09 PM
My worry with November is the weather - last year was ok, the year before was horrendous!
Oh I know where you are coming from, I was sooo obsessed with the weather forecast before the Sage  :pray:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on April 02, 2012, 06:05:50 PM
My only concern with an October release it that it may clash with Little Mix's release (and the  inevitable comparisons). 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on April 02, 2012, 06:09:19 PM
I'm really looking forward to album no 4, if its released in October like Joe is saying, when do you think he will tour with it? Hope they don't leave it till the new year as people won't have much money left after xmas.

Really hope they keep to the September/October date as that would be good for some of the TV shows around then.  Sales really start to pick up around then too- just hoping he can avoid other big releases around that time.  I guess if the album is out in October a single will be released way before then in perhaps July/August especially if they plan to release a 2nd.  Just a thought. :-)

(Who knows - if The Voice does really well SCowell might need to bring back some of his 'serious' vocal talent from the past onto his show to perform- to prove that X factor was a singing contest after all and not just a circus!!!!)


Well if Scowell was going to bring anyone back ,we know it would'nt be Joe even though the other person can't sing it would be him for sure   :(
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 02, 2012, 07:07:48 PM
scowell will bring back the cheeky  essex boy we all love to hate on here -- we know that  without being mystic meg
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on April 02, 2012, 07:08:35 PM
My only concern with an October release it that it may clash with Little Mix's release (and the  inevitable comparisons).

I know - that wouldn't be good.  (I'm just hoping the likes of James Morrison, Will Young etc won't be having releases around that time though either - and definately hope there will be no appearance of Michael Buble either this year.  I know competition is healthy and people will by Joe's album  if they like it - but hey, it would be good if those guys aren't around - or OM - for that matter!!!!!!!!!!  Oh how I wish it was an ideal world :D)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on April 02, 2012, 07:10:52 PM
scowell will bring back the cheeky  essex boy we all love to hate on here -- we know that  without being mystic meg

But that would just prove that X factor cannot really be considered a credible singing contest!!! :-)

(To be quite honest - I think that PStoOS was all the proof anyone needed if they ever doubted before where the singing talent was :-))
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on April 02, 2012, 07:57:50 PM
I know where you are all coming from worry who will release an album when Joe does.  He has got to compete with anyone in the music industry.  He will successed under his own merit.  :ten: Joe  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on April 02, 2012, 08:14:16 PM
I wasn't talking about anyone in the music industry I was talking specifically about Little Mix.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on April 02, 2012, 08:21:30 PM
I wasn't talking about anyone in the music industry I was talking specifically about Little Mix.

Ok sorry x
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 02, 2012, 11:54:16 PM
hope  joes album  is so great that  it outsells little mix ----- who really knows  how popular little mix are  anyway ----- just have to wait and see.joes album will be better tho
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on April 03, 2012, 08:42:59 AM
After listening to this interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ApZpCQZmU4

Skip to 7:15

I think the next album will probably go to country style mix rnb,soul. Just have that feeling.  :) *Wishful thinking*
What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on April 03, 2012, 08:45:45 AM
No. Don't think Joe would change direction drastically again to Country, that is certainly not what people would have expected from him after XF. Country is not big in the UK either.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 03, 2012, 09:01:29 AM
oh please, no R&B. Can't stand it..
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on April 03, 2012, 09:27:46 AM
No. Don't think Joe would change direction drastically again to Country, that is certainly not what people would have expected from him after XF. Country is not big in the UK either.

Agree Hayley! I think it will be modern ballads that will appeal to the American market in the same way that Adele does ( I know it's not the speculation thread, just have a feeling in my water  ;) )
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on April 03, 2012, 10:03:13 AM
I didn’t mean pure country music, more to country-pop crossover like lady antebellum mix with Emeli Sande (rnb,soul,pop)/Adele (soul,pop) style of album. BTW this is just speculation. Haha  :D  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on April 03, 2012, 11:56:57 AM
I didn’t mean pure country music, more to country-pop crossover like lady antebellum mix with Emeli Sande (rnb,soul,pop)/Adele (soul,pop) style of album. BTW this is just speculation. Haha  :D  :-)

Aah I get you  :thumbsup: That style will definitely play well with the American market . And I notice that Joe's new agency have a base in Nashville as well as LA & NY  ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 03, 2012, 12:10:50 PM
i think joes album will be modern ballads --- adele style like --- someone like you style i think ---- dont think country really tho / maybe emalie sande  style too --- with alot of joes VOICE .--- dont think joes voice will be very country tho  thinking some ballads like on xf too ---- just joes beautiful voice mainly .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on April 03, 2012, 12:37:39 PM
I agree think the album with be Adele type ballads. :inlove:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on April 03, 2012, 12:39:37 PM
Hope they're a bit more optimistic than Adele's  :shock1:

I like the idea of a bit of a mix.

Must go and listen to Emeli Sande - then I might know what you're talking about ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on April 03, 2012, 01:36:49 PM
I love Emeli Sande, amazing singer/songwriter.  :)
My fav songs from her

Next To Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1AT-Rr0cc

Suitcase
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwz5ylq5RMg


Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 03, 2012, 03:05:19 PM
jude im sure joe will have more optimistic songs than adele tho ---- just modern ballads really .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on April 03, 2012, 04:34:17 PM
 :thumbsup:
oh please, no R&B. Can't stand it..

Love Rnb, would be perfect for me.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 03, 2012, 04:42:50 PM
give me Joe king of pop anytime though
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 03, 2012, 05:36:43 PM
dont think joe will go down the pop dancey  songs again as WA didnt sell so well --- think joe said modern pop ballads more for this album --- he knows people / fans want to hear his voice more than pop which everyone sings -- think joe said songs fans expected  his album to be after he won xf --- which was more ballads really --- fans missed joes voice on WA and joe knows that  his ballads  are what fans like most .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on April 03, 2012, 08:43:07 PM
Yes I want original pop ballards please  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on April 03, 2012, 09:20:31 PM
give me Joe king of pop anytime though

Joe has never "successfully" done pop though, so don't think he would be classed as the king of pop.

The X Factor is when people first fell in love with Joe, he has to go back to those routes with this album I think.  From what Joe has said that is what the album is going to be.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 03, 2012, 09:26:29 PM
What I mean is that he can be king of pop with his ballads.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on April 03, 2012, 09:29:04 PM
 :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 03, 2012, 09:31:04 PM
:haha:

 :dontknow: are you laughing at me?  :jump:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on April 03, 2012, 09:40:32 PM
What I mean is that he can be king of pop with his ballads.

Right.  :blush: Most people seem to think he will do ballads anyway and that is what he was known for.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 03, 2012, 09:50:01 PM
I think he said so on the house of Anubis interview. I think...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 03, 2012, 11:38:29 PM
yes modern ballads joe said he would do ------ he is great with ballads  they suit joes VOICE
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 04, 2012, 04:54:29 PM
looking forward to hearing joe do some modern ballads!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on April 04, 2012, 08:26:14 PM
Yes yes yes me too  :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on April 09, 2012, 11:02:17 PM

2m HELEN BOULDING ‏ @HELENBOULDING
OMG Mayday is a hit!!! @joemcelderry91 @CassLowe : )

Wonder if I am thinking along the right lines  :rofl2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 09, 2012, 11:02:51 PM
 :lol:
we all jumped at that tweet!!!! what does it mean?  :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on April 09, 2012, 11:06:38 PM
I see everyone is talking about it in the speculation thread so I may just delete the posts in here Sandy if that is ok
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on April 09, 2012, 11:07:42 PM
Leave it here too. We can talk about it in speculation thread though. But if it turns up on his album - well we can see your post :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on April 09, 2012, 11:08:45 PM
Ok that makes sense  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 09, 2012, 11:20:10 PM
Not sure we posted this before, but as I am in a research mode, I just found this on You Tube. It's written by Helen Boulding.
I think  she would work really well with Joe's style and voice.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOpJBUW_wb4
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Brandi on April 10, 2012, 09:21:49 AM
Hi Everyone ..... Hope all is well ....  I still follow Joe on twitter and am still supporting him   :)

I'm so excited and looking forward to Joe's album number 4.    :-)

When able, I pop on this site from time to time to get the latest updates to fill me in (without signing in).  So thank you all so much for keeping this site going and especially to Jude for setting it up.  It is very much appreciated.   :wink:

Lots of love to you all

Brandi  xx

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on April 10, 2012, 09:32:54 AM
Hey Brandi lovely to see you. Xx
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on April 10, 2012, 10:48:33 AM
Hi Brandi lovely to hear from you. :)
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 10, 2012, 11:26:43 AM
lovely to see you brandi!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 10, 2012, 11:36:56 AM
lovley to  see you post brandi  :wave:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on April 10, 2012, 12:02:46 PM
Hi Everyone ..... Hope all is well ....  I still follow Joe on twitter and am still supporting him   :)

I'm so excited and looking forward to Joe's album number 4.    :-)

When able, I pop on this site from time to time to get the latest updates to fill me in (without signing in).  So thank you all so much for keeping this site going and especially to Jude for setting it up.  It is very much appreciated.   :wink:

Lots of love to you all

Brandi  xx

Hiya Brandi ,

Lovely to hear from you again  :wave:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on April 10, 2012, 02:00:36 PM
Hiya Brandi *waves like a mad women*.

Lovely to hear from you, I miss your posts alot. Hope your well.  :wave:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on April 10, 2012, 05:14:47 PM
Me too. But thank you so much for popping in and saying hi  :bighug:  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on April 10, 2012, 05:52:48 PM
 :wave: Brandi!  :hurrah: :hurrah:  Glad ur still a JoeNut ! :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on April 10, 2012, 06:16:35 PM
Hiya Brandi!   :wavehat:  Good to hear from you.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on April 10, 2012, 09:13:36 PM
Hi Brandi :)
So lovely to hear from you :-)
Glad you're still enjoying Joeland :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 10, 2012, 09:37:02 PM
I really miss adayseye's posts, really hope she's ok!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Brandi on April 10, 2012, 10:55:00 PM
Oh myyyyy!!!   Thank you sooo much everyone, yes I'm still ticking along ..... I didn't realise you would all respond this way, so many familiar faces  :blush: .....  Thank you for your kind response ..... will try and post when I can .....  I'm truly looking forward to Joe's next album, dead excited!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 10, 2012, 11:09:08 PM
great brandi --- we all missed you lots too ---- love you to post again ------ looking forward to album 4 too -- its meant to be just joe.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 10, 2012, 11:13:10 PM
jade --- i saw you mention  adeseye ( anne)--- she is coming to new brighton joe show  with roec and bernie .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 11, 2012, 01:53:03 PM
cant wait for joes album 4 --- evern tho i know the longer we wait the better it will be  :ilovejoe: :ten:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sug60 on April 11, 2012, 02:22:17 PM
 :hurrah: Everyone is getting hooked on Joe just brilliant how can anyone not like him look out when new album is out everyone will be blown away  :ilovejoe: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 11, 2012, 02:48:13 PM
joe said on sky news that after album 4 and tour maybe album5  :ilovejoe: :ten:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on April 11, 2012, 03:30:42 PM
Its getting better and better  the more we hear   :hurrah:  :hurrah:  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on April 11, 2012, 06:46:13 PM
It's fantastic in Joeland, so many exciting things happening. :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 11, 2012, 07:06:43 PM
joes in studio  too :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on April 11, 2012, 07:36:16 PM
What great news, I can't wait either for album number 4  :hurrah:   :wavehat:   :goofy:   :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 12, 2012, 01:01:51 PM
:) glad adayseye is doing well and coming to NewBrighton!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 12, 2012, 01:09:55 PM
Helen Boulding's promo cds have been delivered. Her album is out early July. I didn't know the promos were done so long in advance...

MusicSales Film&TV ‏ @MusicSalesUK    · Close
Well done @HELENBOULDING - these look amazing! X

(https://p.twimg.com/AqROe_8CEAALrJq.jpg)

I like the cover. Looks familiar... not sure why.

I actually found a promo cd of classic Christmas on Ebay yesterday, which is accompanied by the Universal letter that went with it.
So I see that people who get promo cds for reviews don't hesitate making money with it and sell them when they are not interested in the album... charming...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on April 12, 2012, 09:42:53 PM

I actually found a promo cd of classic Christmas on Ebay yesterday, which is accompanied by the Universal letter that went with it.
So I see that people who get promo cds for reviews don't hesitate making money with it and sell them when they are not interested in the album... charming...
Thats a shame alright  :depressed: i'm kinda surprised at that though i guess i really shouldn't be :blush:
Thanks Sandy, interesting cover :) looks nice
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 12, 2012, 09:49:55 PM
yes, I was quite disappointed that someone would do that, but then again, if they don't want to keep it...
I hope they at least give the money to charity...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Joe-McElderry-PROMO-CD-ALBUM-PR-Classic-Christmas-/320885963728?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL&hash=item4ab64b3bd0#ht_500wt_1287
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on April 12, 2012, 10:38:48 PM
Oh thanks for the link, that person must have a job in music or some links to something like that, they have a load of promo stuff for sale so i very much doubt the money is going to charity unfortunately :(
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 12, 2012, 10:40:45 PM
 :thumbsdown: that's bad...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JoeMegaFan on April 12, 2012, 11:17:07 PM
Has anyone heard any more comments about the Radio song or songs on the album? Adam Lambert is having 3 or 4 on his new album.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 12, 2012, 11:18:18 PM
I'm not sure what you mean...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JoeMegaFan on April 12, 2012, 11:21:54 PM
I remember Joe saying somewhere that they would have at least one track on the album which radio stations would play,  so I assume that will be the single off the album. I haven't seen him mention it again.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 12, 2012, 11:23:38 PM
not exactly what I remember. I remember him being asked on twitter if he will have a song for the radio and he replied that they will have to see if they find one that is good for that.
There is no guarantee, it will depend on what they come up with for the album.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 13, 2012, 01:40:56 AM
agree with sandy if they find  a  song that radio will play joe said ---- hope ashley tabor and global dont block joes songs again --- hope joes songs get played this time.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JoeMegaFan on April 13, 2012, 07:53:05 AM
Thanks for clarifying that Sandy and Trudy.
Hope they find a song for radio play. Think that means a banale repetitive song, going by the charts!
Adam Lambert held up the release date of his album till they found 3 radio songs. He has suffered like Joe from almost total lack of UK national radio stations air-play but at least gets played and promoted widely in the USA.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 13, 2012, 02:11:30 PM
hope joe finds a radio friendly song ---NOT  banal  and repetitive tho ------- joes voice is so great he could sing anything --- lost  my keys lost my phone ( BGT ) and it would sound great i think .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on April 18, 2012, 05:07:43 PM
I see that the PR for Cheryl's new album has begun today - due for release on 18th June .   On that basis hopefully, the PR for *'I'm Still Standing And This Is My 4th album'  should begin sometime in August and would explain why Joe doesn't want to commit to the GNR just yet .

 :)

* My working title, obviously  :-)

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Post by: Poppet68 on April 18, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
Yes Joe will be busy with prom in the summer, I can't wait  :goofy:
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on April 18, 2012, 09:09:36 PM
'I'm Still Standing And This Is My 4th album'  - love it - that's what this thread could be called! :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: don'tstopbelievin on April 18, 2012, 10:31:09 PM
OK this is my friend's opinion only so don't shoot the messenger:
My friend thinks Album 4 should have some opera on it, just so he can keep going with it, but she first thinks while he is recording it he should be doing some training for opera, because she knows a bit about opera and really wants him to train in Italian more.
She thinks that he's gorgeous but she thinks that Album 4 should also have some pop on there too. A little bit of everything.
sorry just her opinion
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JazDarcy on April 18, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
 Joe needs to concentrate on pop for the next album. NOT opera (and I LOVE him doing opera). He couldn't do "some" training though, he'd need to pretty much give up pop and train in a conservatoire.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on April 18, 2012, 10:45:59 PM
You don't need to apologize for your friends opinion Jess, although I think we kind of know already from what Joe has said about album 4 that there isn't going to be any opera on it.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 19, 2012, 02:19:25 AM
agree with hayley/ JJ--- ALBUM4 --- IS NOT AN OPERA ALBUM
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on April 19, 2012, 05:04:00 PM
http://www.newsguardian.co.uk/community/x-factor-winner-joe-mcelderry-wants-to-crack-usa-video-1-4465178#.T5A2ARVkY6s.twitter

about album 4 & tour - video
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on April 19, 2012, 07:02:01 PM
the video doesn't play for me, what is being said?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on April 19, 2012, 07:17:49 PM
going well - recording now - getting impatient to release it himself now - release date Sept/Oct - Tour end of year probably - some Corrie talk - lots of live dates planned for later in the year - concentrating on release here in the Autumn - then hoping for album release in Europe then possibly the US......
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Post by: joan46 on April 19, 2012, 07:21:35 PM
Wow I really hope this is happening for Joe .Its about time the world heard his amazing voice .America watch out to be astounded. I pray this is going to be Joe's time ,no-one deserves it more than Joe .  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 19, 2012, 07:32:45 PM
omg i'm so excited for this album!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 19, 2012, 08:47:42 PM
hopefully joe will crack europe/ usa  :wavehat:
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Post by: Poppet68 on April 19, 2012, 09:18:14 PM
Yes oh yes someone please make this happen  :wavehat:  :wavehat:  :hurrah:
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Post by: queenie4joe on April 19, 2012, 09:23:20 PM
 :pray: :pray: :pray:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mr wombat on April 20, 2012, 03:48:41 AM
OK this is my friend's opinion only so don't shoot the messenger:
My friend thinks Album 4 should have some opera on it, just so he can keep going with it, but she first thinks while he is recording it he should be doing some training for opera, because she knows a bit about opera and really wants him to train in Italian more.
She thinks that he's gorgeous but she thinks that Album 4 should also have some pop on there too. A little bit of everything.
sorry just her opinion

I would like to see "Una Furtiva Lagrima" put on the end of the album like a nightcap.  Just 100 seconds of opera - short and sweet - not hardcore.  That would let the opera buffs know he's still in business.  The Ollys and Adeles can't do that.  Only Joe can.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on April 20, 2012, 04:30:20 AM
It's a good thought, but I don't think it will happen.  Joe has said this album will not be opera, but who knows.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on April 20, 2012, 08:24:31 AM
10 seconds of a song is absolutely pointless.  Think it would looked rather stupid stck on the end of an album with no opera tracks.

You either feature some classical material or none, not 10 seconds of a song you sung on a reality show over a year ago by the time of release. In my opinion of course.
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Post by: s on April 20, 2012, 08:27:02 AM
100 seconds.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 20, 2012, 08:45:07 AM
i know we've got a while to wait yet, but i'm thinking when the track previews come out, whether to try and restrain myself from listening until i've got the album or whether to listen. I think even if i try, i'll end up listening in the end anyway!
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Post by: blackenroses on April 20, 2012, 10:14:45 AM
Quote
He said: “At the minute, we’re just trying songs and picking tracks for the album.

There’s going to be classical elements to it, because I’ve learnt a lot and my voice has developed, but it’s not necessarily going to be a classical album.

“I haven’t got a name picked out yet either, but I can’t wait to get in the studio and start working on it.”

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/lifestyle/entertainment/video-joe-s-flying-the-flag-for-the-jubilee-1-4466941
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 20, 2012, 12:01:10 PM
ooo, i'm excited!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on April 20, 2012, 02:24:14 PM
100 seconds.

Just realised that lol. Still don't think it would be a great idea.
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Post by: Trudy on April 20, 2012, 02:29:43 PM
 yes  hayley its a silly idea  100 seconds of opera on a pop ballads / pop songs album  errrrm not
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on April 20, 2012, 02:46:48 PM
OK this is my friend's opinion only so don't shoot the messenger:
My friend thinks Album 4 should have some opera on it, just so he can keep going with it, but she first thinks while he is recording it he should be doing some training for opera, because she knows a bit about opera and really wants him to train in Italian more.
She thinks that he's gorgeous but she thinks that Album 4 should also have some pop on there too. A little bit of everything.
sorry just her opinion

I would like to see "Una Furtiva Lagrima" put on the end of the album like a nightcap.  Just 100 seconds of opera - short and sweet - not hardcore.  That would let the opera buffs know he's still in business.  The Ollys and Adeles can't do that.  Only Joe can.
If you think about it, that's what classic was about. Except maybe more than 100 seconds. ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 20, 2012, 03:03:48 PM
no it wasnt mew ---- classic had lots of classical crossover songs / and classic pop songs --- but not pop with 100 seconds of opera ---- why is everyone winding up today ---- it seems a silly idea --- and joe said no opera on album 4 -- he didnt say 100 secs of opera  :wacko:  crazy
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 21, 2012, 12:59:25 AM
I don't think it's a good idea!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 21, 2012, 10:32:20 AM
OK this is my friend's opinion only so don't shoot the messenger:
My friend thinks Album 4 should have some opera on it, just so he can keep going with it, but she first thinks while he is recording it he should be doing some training for opera, because she knows a bit about opera and really wants him to train in Italian more.
She thinks that he's gorgeous but she thinks that Album 4 should also have some pop on there too. A little bit of everything.
sorry just her opinion

I would like to see "Una Furtiva Lagrima" put on the end of the album like a nightcap.  Just 100 seconds of opera - short and sweet - not hardcore.  That would let the opera buffs know he's still in business.  The Ollys and Adeles can't do that.  Only Joe can.
If you think about it, that's what classic was about. Except maybe more than 100 seconds. ;)

the difference is that it made sense to mix classical songs/crossover with a couple of opera tracks, and pop songs with a classical arrangement. But if the new album doesn't have a classical sound (and it doesn't seem that it will have) it would be a bit strange to have an opera track, even if it is a bonus track. I think this album needs to make sense and be consistent. Not a mix of everything he can do just because others might not be able to do it. The album needs to have a sense, the songs need to work together. Otherwise it's just a compilation.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on April 21, 2012, 10:56:01 AM
OK this is my friend's opinion only so don't shoot the messenger:
My friend thinks Album 4 should have some opera on it, just so he can keep going with it, but she first thinks while he is recording it he should be doing some training for opera, because she knows a bit about opera and really wants him to train in Italian more.
She thinks that he's gorgeous but she thinks that Album 4 should also have some pop on there too. A little bit of everything.
sorry just her opinion

I would like to see "Una Furtiva Lagrima" put on the end of the album like a nightcap.  Just 100 seconds of opera - short and sweet - not hardcore.  That would let the opera buffs know he's still in business.  The Ollys and Adeles can't do that.  Only Joe can.
If you think about it, that's what classic was about. Except maybe more than 100 seconds. ;)

the difference is that it made sense to mix classical songs/crossover with a couple of opera tracks, and pop songs with a classical arrangement. But if the new album doesn't have a classical sound (and it doesn't seem that it will have) it would be a bit strange to have an opera track, even if it is a bonus track. I think this album needs to make sense and be consistent. Not a mix of everything he can do just because others might not be able to do it. The album needs to have a sense, the songs need to work together. Otherwise it's just a compilation.

Yep I agree, that is what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on April 21, 2012, 12:01:31 PM
Yup - a nice cohesive album. Which neither of the classics were.

Wide Awake wasn't the most cohesive of albums either.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 21, 2012, 12:19:06 PM
Yup - a nice cohesive album. Which neither of the classics were.

Wide Awake wasn't the most cohesive of albums either.

Not really, no...  :snigger:
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 21, 2012, 02:23:35 PM
agree with you jude. :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 21, 2012, 02:56:11 PM
hope joes album has some really good pop ballads on it -- as joe said it would be what we all expected of him  after x factor and pop ballads was what joe sang best--- also some uptempo  songs  would make it a great album too -- hope some originals from joe  too  for album 4.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on April 21, 2012, 08:18:40 PM
Funny you talking about a classic track on Joe's album.  I dreamt last night he released TWO albums at the same time, one classical and one pop ballard . In my dream he told the media he had kept having classical training every since he won PSTOS.

Now wouldn't that be a joy?

Oh in my dream they were both smash hits  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: kanga samps on April 21, 2012, 08:32:07 PM
Funny you talking about a classic track on Joe's album.  I dreamt last night he released TWO albums at the same time, one classical and one pop ballard . In my dream he told the media he had kept having classical training every since he won PSTOS.

Now wouldn't that be a joy?

Oh in my dream they were both smash hits  :ilovejoe:

Wouldn't put it past him, :rofl2: :ten:
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 22, 2012, 12:21:36 AM
i'm just so so excited for this album, i loved joe's tweets about it and possibly a single!
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Post by: s on April 22, 2012, 12:42:58 AM
I'm only putting this here because they were on the songwriting camp with Joe.

Belle Humble ‏ @BelleHumble    · Open
@CassLowe oyyyy you got some sweet-ass songs up there on youtube!! I been checking checking :) nice work x
 Cass Lowe ‏ @CassLowe Close
@BelleHumble Fanks blumble! When are we doing our next when huh? also, drinks with @joemcelderry91 pls, its vital x
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Post by: Hayley on April 22, 2012, 12:45:52 AM
Everyone that works with Joe, meets him or associates with him seems to absolutely fall in love with him.............well most people haha.  ;)
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Post by: judetheobscure on April 22, 2012, 12:48:59 AM
Which reminds me that Helen Boulding (she of also writing songs with Joe) is at the Hop Farm Festival Sunday 1st July (Paddock Wood, Kent)

Oh - and Jamie Abbott is there too - not clear which day(s) though - maybe all three - starts Friday 29th.

Link here: http://hopfarmfestival.com/line-up
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Post by: Trudy on April 22, 2012, 02:34:10 AM
yes everyone seems to love joe
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Post by: s on April 22, 2012, 10:08:03 AM
Which reminds me that Helen Boulding (she of also writing songs with Joe) is at the Hop Farm Festival Sunday 1st July (Paddock Wood, Kent)

Oh - and Jamie Abbott is there too - not clear which day(s) though - maybe all three - starts Friday 29th.

Link here: http://hopfarmfestival.com/line-up

oh yes, Jamie is there too (with 2Bs and 2Ts) - I loved the way he introduced himself  :D
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: s on April 23, 2012, 09:23:19 PM
Which reminds me that Helen Boulding (she of also writing songs with Joe) is at the Hop Farm Festival Sunday 1st July (Paddock Wood, Kent)

Oh - and Jamie Abbott is there too - not clear which day(s) though - maybe all three - starts Friday 29th.

Link here: http://hopfarmfestival.com/line-up

Lisa ‏ @lisa_in_music    · Open
@JamieAbbott Just seen on your site you're doing the Hop Farm Festival. Headlining too! That's great! Except I'm away so can't go!
 Jamie Abbott ‏ @JamieAbbott Close
@lisa_in_music Yeah on the Thursday evening, should be good times! Next year then...!
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Post by: judetheobscure on April 23, 2012, 10:50:13 PM
Ah,  :thankyou: Sandy :)
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 24, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
really want to hear some new joe music!
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Post by: judetheobscure on April 24, 2012, 03:01:21 PM
Suzette Goram ‏ @SuzetteGG    · Open
@joemcelderry91 Will all the songs on your album be originals? Xx


 Joe McElderry ‏ @joemcelderry91 Close
@SuzetteGG not all of them xx



Answers that question then ;)

Also he's written about twelve songs but not all of them will be on the album and we may hear other people singing them.
Also got lots of ideas for the title.
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Post by: Trudy on April 24, 2012, 03:05:29 PM
yes album will be some originals some covers too --- and joe has written 12 songs but not all on album
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Post by: Tacom on April 24, 2012, 06:07:46 PM
Can't wait! I am curious but also scared to death  :-)
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Post by: litcar on April 24, 2012, 06:33:15 PM
You know when you want something to happen but at the same time you don't because you're scared that's how I feel about the album. I want it to be Oct so we hear it but at the same time I'm too scared. :wacko:
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Post by: Trudy on April 24, 2012, 06:40:31 PM
think its sept/ oct now  for album 4 release --- and i can see tour probably  december  maybe to new  year --- or november again  maybe
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Post by: roec on April 24, 2012, 06:55:27 PM
Really like the sound of other people singing some of Joe's songs :)
But not really in love with the covers idea though, hope there isn't many and they are fairly inventive!
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Post by: s on April 24, 2012, 07:20:47 PM
I agree Rosemary.
It doesn't make sense to me that you write 12 songs and you don't use them all for your album but someone else might sing it... I'm sure there's a reason, but  :wacko:
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Post by: JazDarcy on April 24, 2012, 07:21:44 PM
I agree Rosemary.
It doesn't make sense to me that you write 12 songs and you don't use them all for your album but someone else might sing it... I'm sure there's a reason, but  :wacko:

Some of the songs might not fit the album concept to if they let someone else sing it they get royalties ;)
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Post by: s on April 24, 2012, 07:23:55 PM
yes, I guess when they were doing the mood boards a few months ago they decided on a direction for the album and those songs were just not telling the right story.
oh well, at least they are not lost ;)
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Post by: judetheobscure on April 24, 2012, 07:34:47 PM
Or they sound better sung by someone else (perish the thought :haha: )

Or it was someone else's initial idea and Joe contributed ideas.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on April 24, 2012, 07:35:57 PM
Or they sound better sung by someone else (perish the thought :haha: )

Or it was someone else's initial idea and Joe contributed ideas.

Like I can believe that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :roll:
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Post by: MEW on April 24, 2012, 07:41:30 PM
He might save them and develop them for the next album if they're not handed over to anyone else.
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Post by: Trudy on April 24, 2012, 08:58:05 PM
i hope joe gets the best songs that he  wrote  tho ---- as he has the best voice .
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sug60 on April 24, 2012, 09:20:08 PM
I am hoping there will be quite a few of Joe's songs on his album getting very excited and nervous about it all. But like Sandy said when they did those mood boards perhaps all of them don't fit in they might just keep them for the next album, and if someone else did sing some they would get royalties so its just a waiting game. :ilovejoe: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on April 24, 2012, 09:46:54 PM
You know when you want something to happen but at the same time you don't because you're scared that's how I feel about the album. I want it to be Oct so we hear it but at the same time I'm too scared. :wacko:

Ditto.  Excited but terrified.  Hope there aren't too many covers and they are not obvious choices.

I agree Rosemary.
It doesn't make sense to me that you write 12 songs and you don't use them all for your album but someone else might sing it... I'm sure there's a reason, but  :wacko:

It's pretty standard that singers/songwriters will write a bunch a songs and not use them all though.  Some songs like others said might not fight with the album, or they just may not have been good enough. Several reasons why songs wouldn't be included in the final track list.  Joe will I assume be given plenty of original songs, perhaps some of them written for Joe.  It doesn't mean that the story boards etc turned into nothing.
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Post by: carisma on April 24, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
Ok I am quite intrigued by this - it doesn't sound as though the final songs for the album have been 100% chosen - yet they won't all be originals (and this seems to have been something some people have known for a while).  Is there a song (cover) that they have just decided will be so perfect for Joe that is just has to be on the album?
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Post by: s on April 24, 2012, 09:58:22 PM
could be big river ;)
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Post by: carisma on April 24, 2012, 09:59:31 PM
could be big river ;)

I hope not  :shock1: 
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Post by: MEW on April 24, 2012, 10:02:44 PM
Ok I am quite intrigued by this - it doesn't sound as though the final songs for the album have been 100% chosen - yet they won't all be originals (and this seems to have been something some people have known for a while).  Is there a song (cover) that they have just decided will be so perfect for Joe that is just has to be on the album?
There must be if they're still in the early stages, he keeps saying nothing's confirmed but now he's saying it's not all originals. I'd rather have big river as a bonus track if it did end up on the album since we've heard it before.
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Post by: s on April 24, 2012, 10:03:31 PM
could be big river ;)

I hope not  :shock1:

why not? don't you like Big River?
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Post by: s on April 24, 2012, 10:04:46 PM
or open arms.
he says he gets requested to sing it all the time. Everyone likes this one. With a nice arrangement it could be absolutely brilliant ;)
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Post by: Hayley on April 24, 2012, 10:07:22 PM
could be big river ;)

I hope not  :shock1:

I hope not too tbh.  You could be right though Carisma.  I'm guessing there will be more than one cover but as we don't know how many songs are going to be on the album and how many songs Joe is still going through at the moment we don't know how many will be choosen in the end.  Joe did reply to someone and say that some of the songs have definately been picked, these are probably some of the songs he has demoed and decided as a definate.

Joe said he will be started recording in with producers in the next 2 weeks, so must be the latter stages of the process now.

I don't want Open Arms or any other song Joe has previously sung on X Factor or otherwise.  Especially not X Factor actually, it will be 3 years ago by the time the album comes out, time to move on.
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Post by: judetheobscure on April 24, 2012, 10:09:00 PM
I agree with Hayley. I want the covers to be new covers and preferably not well known (as with Wide Awake) or in a very different style.
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Post by: roec on April 24, 2012, 10:12:10 PM
I agree with Hayley. I want the covers to be new covers and preferably not well known (as with Wide Awake) or in a very different style.
:goodpost: Jude, me too :)
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Post by: carisma on April 24, 2012, 10:26:38 PM
could be big river ;)

I hope not  :shock1:

why not? don't you like Big River?

It is not that I don't like it - I think Joe sings it beautifully and it obviously means a lot to the people of the NE, but it is certainly not one of my favourites and I don't think it says anything about Joe as an artist (and I think it would have limited appeal to any other demographic).  I also wouldn't like him to record any X factor song - he really has to move away from that.
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Post by: BlueAngel51 on April 24, 2012, 10:29:00 PM
could be big river ;)

I hope not  :shock1:

why not? don't you like Big River?

It is not that I don't like it - I think Joe sings it beautifully and it obviously means a lot to the people of the NE, but it is certainly not one of my favourites and I don't think it says anything about Joe as an artist (and I think it would have limited appeal to any other demographic).  I also wouldn't like him to record any X factor song - he really has to move away from that.

 :goodpost:
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Post by: s on April 24, 2012, 10:43:35 PM
I agree with Hayley. I want the covers to be new covers and preferably not well known (as with Wide Awake) or in a very different style.

I want!!   :jump:


what are you going to do if he doesn't deliver???  :snigger:  :haha: :D
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Post by: judetheobscure on April 24, 2012, 10:47:55 PM
Get the  :viking1:  :viking1:  :viking1:  out.

Then forgive him, listen to it every day for at least six months and hang on every word he utters about album five  :rofl2:
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Post by: s on April 24, 2012, 10:49:21 PM
where did the  :viking1: come from? first time I see him...

I shall warn Joe ;)
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Post by: sandyrose102 on April 24, 2012, 10:51:06 PM
where did the  :viking1: come from? first time I see him...

I shall warn Joe ;)

 :-)

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Post by: kanga samps on April 24, 2012, 10:54:20 PM
Yep,  :goodpost: agree with all the above ( apart from the mad axeman). I think we all sense this is a really important album for Joe, it's the gateway to the rest of his career. It definitely needs to stand apart from all the previous albums which he has released.

I think it would be fantastic if other artists used songs that Joe has co-written, an incredible compliment and something he can continue developing. It can only help his profile.

Joe is so excited about this album too ( I know he always is ), but I think he has grown up an enormous amount over the last few years and I think the album will be a surprise to many. Cannot wait!!

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Post by: carisma on April 24, 2012, 10:55:34 PM
I'd probably do the same as Jude but a little less restrained/tactful in the first stage - then just give in and listen to his voice, regardless of what he is singing (so not much different to my reaction to  the first 3 then  :D)
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Post by: JoeMegaFan on April 24, 2012, 11:32:38 PM
I agree with those who want new material and a few new covers.
I think Joe has said songs will be like those he sang in XF but
He really needs to have a mix of songs which exploit his vocal versatility and ability and appeal to his broad fan base.
I don't think Big River is modern enough or appropriate for a 20 year old
singing pop songs.
Bit tired so not saying exactly what I mean.
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Post by: Trudy on April 25, 2012, 12:05:05 AM
i agree with jude/ hayley  on if covers new covers we havent heard  before ---- and big river/ open arms weve heard and big river is on sunday for sammy  too ----- so we would have already heard it -- im hoping more originals than covers too -- and hope its  killer album too -- and will surprise the masses --- joe has the voice --- he just needs to pick the right songs to make it a killer album 4 :ilovejoe: :ten: :wavehat:
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Post by: Poppet68 on April 25, 2012, 01:12:41 AM
Agree with a lot of comments.  Yes if covers, they need to be new ones. No XFactor reference.
So many songwriters have material not used on their albums, sometimes they are realesed years after writing them, so who knows, we could be having some of the songs Joe has just written on album number 10  :wavehat:

I wonder what the carrer plan is that Joe mentioned in the interview? I hope overseas album realease and tour.
I am getting excited  :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on April 25, 2012, 08:05:42 AM
I'd probably do the same as Jude but a little less restrained/tactful in the first stage - then just give in and listen to his voice, regardless of what he is singing (so not much different to my reaction to  the first 3 then  :D)

Ditto.  :-)
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Post by: marylou on April 25, 2012, 08:33:14 AM
Finding songs that tick all the boxes is very rare and incredibly difficult to write.
bit like looking for diamonds.. one in a million is of star quality!

Big River? I only see it as a good song, emotional and powerful. but its only relevant to the North East in content.

I hope for a mixture, not Opera at this point, although I hope he doesn't say goodbye to doing something later in that field.

But powerful ballads, past or present, are still his forte and with a 'few' new numbers tucked in there would address the need to retain the contact with his fan base he has already built up and appeal to new fans too. And hopefullly also prick up the ears of the media and get them to see how talented Joe is.

This album has to be a success...it needs to be that elusive diamond... catching the eye and ears ,and the heart of the nation!  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: KR51 on April 25, 2012, 08:35:22 AM
could be big river ;)

I hope not  :shock1:

I hope not too tbh.  You could be right though Carisma.  I'm guessing there will be more than one cover but as we don't know how many songs are going to be on the album and how many songs Joe is still going through at the moment we don't know how many will be choosen in the end.  Joe did reply to someone and say that some of the songs have definately been picked, these are probably some of the songs he has demoed and decided as a definate.

Joe said he will be started recording in with producers in the next 2 weeks, so must be the latter stages of the process now.

I don't want Open Arms or any other song Joe has previously sung on X Factor or otherwise.  Especially not X Factor actually, it will be 3 years ago by the time the album comes out, time to move on.

Oops posted it without saying anything, however, I agree with Hayley, I now want Joe to leave the XF behind totally and not sing any of the songs again, as much as we love him singing them, he really needs to build up a different repertoire which will help him loose that XF tag, although in the media he will always be a winner of XF.

If he has to include some covers, I hope they are ones that have'nt been done to death by loads of other artists.  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 25, 2012, 09:35:02 AM
i'm excited for this album, but also terrified too! I hope as well that the covers aren't really well known ones that have been covered loads.
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Post by: cassi on April 25, 2012, 11:31:36 AM
I am really excited and also a little nervous about this album but will love it regardless because it's Joe :excite: and his beautiful voice.  Hoping that the majority of songs are originals with just a couple of covers. I was thinking back to an interview he did recently with celebrity uk on April 12th and he said that the album will contain mostly big powerful ballads ie. like he sang on xf with a reference to the classics. Agree about Big River/Open Arms I love these songs but would not want them on the album.   :)
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Post by: Trudy on April 25, 2012, 11:35:47 AM
AGREE WITH CASSI  :wavehat:
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Post by: Anetto on April 25, 2012, 11:52:02 AM
I think Joe wants to drop the XF tag himself so don't think there will be any XF songs on the album (hope not anyway) but big powerful ballads he has written himself with one or two covers would be fine. We will all be waiting with baited breath to see what is included but Joe has matured so much in the last couple of years and he knows what will appeal to his fans (and broader public) so we must trust his judgement and wait and see!!! :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on April 25, 2012, 12:05:59 PM
i dont think joe will have  any XF songs on album 4 annetto ------ think joe has said he wants  big ballads like he sang on x f -- but not songs he sang on there --- i want some of joes originals  aswell.
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Post by: joan46 on April 25, 2012, 12:20:30 PM
He said on Sunday that he is dying for us to hear the songs on his album .My reply to that was SO ARE WE JOE    :D
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Post by: Trudy on April 25, 2012, 12:23:39 PM
yes -- we are sooooo  looking forward to joes album 4. :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on April 25, 2012, 02:21:03 PM
Like everyone on here, I too, feel very apprehensive for Joe about this album as he is at a very important stage of his career.  I don't want to be too dramatic and say it is make or break but I guess we all sense the importance on how it is received.  I'm sure great care is being taken to ensure that Joe is true to his talent, style and 'his current' market as well as looking forward to gaining a whole new market.  (The purchasers of Classic I should imagine are the followers of XF/PStoOS - so they will not want to alienate them - but new music as well as maybe covers of more modern songs - sung accoustically, perhaps, may work really well to gain new purchasers).  Going over old ground about how Wide Awake failed to deliver is pointless now - but I'm sure this has been taken into account by DECCA too.

The charts are a strange place at the moment and I think that, as hard as it is, it is best not to to focus to much on those when his album is released - especially as it is the busier time of the year.

I have optimistic moments, pessimistic moments but have decided to be as realistic as possible when the album is released and to how it is received.  I believe it will come from Joe's heart, that he is thrilled and grateful to be recording it and we will be blessed to hear it.  At the end of the day, we will have more music from him, and hopefully more people will be able to appreciate it.

On a personal note, I do so hope that some of Joe's sparkly personality will also be able to shine through as well.

(We all know that so much will depend on  promotion and airplay - and I'm trying not to think too much about that side of the release at the moment.)
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Post by: Susie D on April 25, 2012, 02:22:26 PM
I think we all sense this is a really important album for Joe, it's the gateway to the rest of his career. It definitely needs to stand apart from all the previous albums which he has released.

I think it would be fantastic if other artists used songs that Joe has co-written, an incredible compliment and something he can continue developing. It can only help his profile.

Joe is so excited about this album too ( I know he always is ), but I think he has grown up an enormous amount over the last few years and I think the album will be a surprise to many. Cannot wait!!

 :goodpost:  Totally agree. :-)
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Post by: Trudy on April 25, 2012, 03:03:00 PM
good post susie D - :goodpost:-- IM SURE BY THE TIME SEPT /OCT COMES AROUND  WELL BE  REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO ALBUM 4 -- AND THIS JUST JOE ALBUM  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Liz on April 25, 2012, 06:48:56 PM
I believe it will come from Joe's heart, that he is thrilled and grateful to be recording it and we will be blessed to hear it.



 :goodpost: Love this bit
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Post by: Poppet68 on April 25, 2012, 09:51:03 PM
Yes some good posts  :goodpost: When I think back before Classic was realised, I was worried sick and look how that turned out  :goofy:

I am sure this will be a good album, perhaps not his best but it will sell loads  :wavehat:
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Post by: Trudy on April 25, 2012, 10:52:31 PM
im hoping that  this will be his best album --- as we are expecting album 4  to be joes best  ever.
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 26, 2012, 09:46:53 AM
agree with your post susie!
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Post by: BlueAngel51 on April 28, 2012, 11:52:54 AM
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/lifestyle/the-guide/seen-in-the-city/afternoon-tea-with-joe-mcelderry-1-4490547



“I’ve taken time out to do my album and it has songs which hopefully show growth with a modern edge.”

Very happy bunny  :-)



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Post by: Hayley on April 28, 2012, 12:09:38 PM
Yep I love that bit too BA, sounds good to me.  :cat:
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Post by: blackenroses on April 28, 2012, 12:31:11 PM
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/lifestyle/the-guide/seen-in-the-city/afternoon-tea-with-joe-mcelderry-1-4490547



“I’ve taken time out to do my album and it has songs which hopefully show growth with a modern edge.”

Very happy bunny  :-)

Yeah me too!!  :-) :pray:
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Post by: Trudy on April 28, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
sounds fab-- songs show  growth with a modern edge ---- woop :ilovejoe:
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Post by: cassi on April 28, 2012, 06:03:59 PM
Liking what Joe had to say about album 4, so excited. :hurrah: :hurrah:
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Post by: joan46 on April 28, 2012, 07:40:27 PM
He did say that he was dying for us to hear them .I can't wait   :wavehat:  :wavehat:  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Brandi on April 29, 2012, 01:59:30 PM
Looking forward to Joe's fourth album, which I take will be around autumn time  ......  :)

I wonder if he'll release a single from the album this summer? .....   
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Post by: Poppet68 on April 29, 2012, 08:15:19 PM
Very excited  :wavehat: and after watching Joe tonight I can't wait till the autum  :wavehat:

I do hope he relises a single, but that is not the main thing, the album is the most important thing for me.  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on April 29, 2012, 08:21:13 PM
really excited as well!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on April 29, 2012, 10:45:41 PM
I'm the same just so excited and autumn can't arrived soon enough, just want Joe's album. :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Trudy on April 29, 2012, 11:00:45 PM
looking forward to album ----- and also RAH/ NEW BRIGHTON TOO--- THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE THINGS BEFORE ALBUM THO  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: blackenroses on May 01, 2012, 03:03:25 PM
Personally, I want Joe's 4th album to be pop (up/mid/slower tempo & ballads). I want it to be edgier but still want ballads. I would love some upbeat uptempo happy smiling Joe song  :-). I know that I want to see him smiling in a video because his smile is one of the things that hooks people.  :)
Oh I also want at least more than two songs co-written by Joe on this album. :wink:

Most of all I want Joe's voice to shine!

I'm sure I've got more, but that's probably a really good wish list. Whatever he puts on his album will be amazing. I can't wait to hear it.  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Trudy on May 01, 2012, 04:24:04 PM
i want all blackenroses said --- pop/ ballads / and totally joes beautiful VOICE -- cant wait --- its the album 4 for mcelderymassive  :wavehat:
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Post by: MEW on May 01, 2012, 04:29:28 PM
Personally, I want Joe's 4th album to be pop (up/mid/slower tempo & ballads). I want it to be edgier but still want ballads. I would love some upbeat uptempo happy smiling Joe song  :-). I know that I want to see him smiling in a video because his smile is one of the things that hooks people.  :)
Oh I also want at least more than two songs co-written by Joe on this album. :wink:

Most of all I want Joe's voice to shine!

I'm sure I've got more, but that's probably a really good wish list. Whatever he puts on his album will be amazing. I can't wait to hear it.  :ilovejoe:
I agree with this but I'm gonna be a bit picky and selfish and say there should be at least 5 of his own written or cowritten songs.
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Post by: don'tstopbelievin on May 01, 2012, 04:33:12 PM
I just want to hear Joe's lovely voice again. It would make my day. Also, my friend may like it as she's really wanting to hear Joe's voice, and she'll have had her op then so she'll be able to hear again.
jess
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Post by: Trudy on May 01, 2012, 05:19:50 PM
yes mew --- some joe written  or CO  written songs too that what we want aswell  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Hayley on May 01, 2012, 06:46:38 PM
I would prefer Joe has the best songs possible rather than ones written or co-written by Joe. Joe is new to song writing, so we don't know how good he actually is, from what we have heard he has a natural talent for it. In my opinion though it's more important to include the best songs he has on the album, not side tracking killer songs in exchange for those he helped pen.
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Post by: Brandi on May 01, 2012, 06:53:04 PM
I myself am confident that Joe can write songs especially ones to include life experience.  What I'm not confident of is how his music will sound.    :)
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Post by: Hayley on May 01, 2012, 07:01:30 PM
I'm not sure what you mean there Brandi, do you mean what style the music will be?
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Post by: Trudy on May 01, 2012, 07:10:10 PM
aGREE WITH HAYLEY --- I WANT THE BEST SONGS EVER FOR JOE -- WAS JUST HOPING JOE MAY HAVE WROTE OR CO WROTE A GREAT SONG -- IN WITH THE BEST SONGS EVER
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Post by: judetheobscure on May 01, 2012, 09:50:25 PM
I'm sure she will correct me if I'm wrong but I think Brandi means Joe will be good at the lyrics but not so sure about the music.

I think Joe will be good at melodies. I have no idea about the lyrics. And he will be really going it some if he's good at harmonies and arranging too ;)
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Post by: Hayley on May 01, 2012, 10:04:07 PM
Maybe Jude, hopefully Brandi can clarify that.

I'm not sure how good Joe would be at writing music or lyrics, but I would think that if he is co-writing with a bunch of people they would help him with his weaknesses and play on his strenghts.
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 02, 2012, 09:42:54 AM
:) agree with you hayley!
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Post by: Trudy on May 02, 2012, 02:11:07 PM
agree with hayley
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Post by: s on May 04, 2012, 05:48:23 PM
teasing:

HELEN BOULDING ‏ @HELENBOULDING
@CassLowe @joemcelderry91 hey guess what! It's "Mayday" on Monday : )



 :snigger:
she knows it's going to wake us up!!!!  :sarky:
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Post by: Trudy on May 04, 2012, 05:52:39 PM
WELL IT IS MAY DAY MONDAY------ WELL HAVE TO LISTEN OUT FOR MAY DAY SONG?????????????????
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Post by: s on May 04, 2012, 06:20:51 PM
HELEN BOULDING ‏ @HELENBOULDING
@Maggs0002 @CassLowe @joemcelderry91 it's a song title, just thought it was a co-incidence mayday is monday, but song is not about mayday!



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Post by: judetheobscure on May 04, 2012, 06:26:55 PM
So presumably Mayday as distress call :)
Wonder who the song is for :)
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Post by: s on May 04, 2012, 06:38:11 PM
the plot thickens...

latest tweet:
"Guys i will be live on radio one on Monday afternoon from 3"


OMG!!! this cannot be a coincidence!!!!

Sandy Pandy ‏ @Sandypandy74
@HELENBOULDING @CassLowe @joemcelderry91 in English: So Monday is a hit,right??!! ;)
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@Sandypandy74 no just a song title and it's mayday on monday, it's a coincidence
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Post by: cassi on May 04, 2012, 07:09:47 PM
So this tweet Mayday and Joe on Radio 1 Mayday, wonder what this is about !!!
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Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on May 04, 2012, 07:19:02 PM
So we think Joe/Helen/Cassi have written a song called "Mayday" but not about may day.   Possibly sos call.....Titanic was being released again at the time they were writing?
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Post by: Trudy on May 04, 2012, 07:40:27 PM
yes peggysue --- i think its a mayday -- sos call --- could be about anything -- but -- joe saw titanic at cinema  with friends too. :wavehat:
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Post by: Poppet68 on May 04, 2012, 11:17:04 PM
Could be, we will have to wait and see  :)
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Post by: Trudy on May 05, 2012, 12:03:24 AM
dont think songs  anything about  titanic  at all --- mayday is sos tho
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Post by: blackenroses on May 05, 2012, 03:28:01 AM
Interesting!  :)
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Post by: carisma on May 05, 2012, 11:04:54 AM
Have just caught up with the Sunday for Sammy's YT of ND and BR, and whilst they were both breathtaking performances, they have just left me yearning to hear Joe sing something more modern/contemporary (and not necessarily the rnb/pop covers he seems to prefer  :blush:). 

In saying that though I listened to a lot of music/performances last weekend, from The Voice, to BGT, music channels, itunes etc (as I am sure most of us did) and one performance has remained with me all week and that was Hear My Prayer on SOP, which surprises me as it was one of my least favourite on Classic.

Cannot wait for this album (or to even start hearing clues e.g producers etc)  :cool2:
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Post by: Hayley on May 05, 2012, 12:43:48 PM
I have to agree with you about Hear My Prayer Carisma, surprises me how much I loved that performance.  :cat:
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Post by: marylou on May 05, 2012, 03:46:16 PM
There is no doubt that his rendition of Nessun Dorma is beautiful and almost always incuded in his finale at most venues.
I think we have to keep an open mind about the next album.. remember how the Classic album was hardly welcomed with 'Open Arms' before its debut...
We know his voice is incredible and I have a strong feeling he wont throw the baby out with the bath water with this new one, even though he loves upbeat and current music.... he is well aware how important it is to keep his connection with his older fans.
Pop singers are ten a penny.. but a trully unique vocalist with the added attraction of being a stunner and blessed with a heart of gold only comes along once in a while.
and Joe has this rare and wonderful talent by the bucket load.
I hear very few 'current' popular songs that haven't been subjected to overlay and artificially tinkered with to the point of drowning the actual voice of the singer.
To do that with Joes voice would be almost sacrilegious and might be a step to far to the listening audience...perhaps even resulting in a re run of his first albums problems.
Beautifully constructed and organic ballads with a sprinkling of cleverly orchestrated up beat numbers are his best bet....but once again that is purely my opinion.  :wink:
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Post by: carisma on May 05, 2012, 04:16:25 PM
There is no doubt that his rendition of Nessun Dorma is beautiful and almost always incuded in his finale at most venues.
I think we have to keep an open mind about the next album.. remember how the Classic album was hardly welcomed with 'Open Arms' before its debut...
We know his voice is incredible and I have a strong feeling he wont throw the baby out with the bath water with this new one, even though he loves upbeat and current music.... he is well aware how important it is to keep his connection with his older fans.
Pop singers are ten a penny.. but a trully unique vocalist with the added attraction of being a stunner and blessed with a heart of gold only comes along once in a while.
and Joe has this rare and wonderful talent by the bucket load.
I hear very few 'current' popular songs that haven't been subjected to overlay and artificially tinkered with to the point of drowning the actual voice of the singer.
To do that with Joes voice would be almost sacrilegious and might be a step to far to the listening audience...perhaps even resulting in a re run of his first albums problems.
Beautifully constructed and organic ballads with a sprinkling of cleverly orchestrated up beat numbers are his best bet....but once again that is purely my opinion.  :wink:

... and not a million miles away from mine  :-)
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Post by: Trudy on May 05, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
lovley  post marylou  :goodpost:--- i think  as long as joe has that  beautiful voice  on album 4 -- we will love it  :ilovejoe: :ten:
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Post by: judetheobscure on May 05, 2012, 04:21:34 PM

Pop singers are ten a penny.

But good pop singers are more rare than gold dust

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I hear very few 'current' popular songs that haven't been subjected to overlay and artificially tinkered with to the point of drowning the actual voice of the singer.
To do that with Joes voice would be almost sacrilegious and might be a step to far to the listening audience...perhaps even resulting in a re run of his first albums problems.

I don't think this is necessarily true and in any case, I'm sure lessons will have been learnt from Wide Awake.
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Post by: Trudy on May 05, 2012, 04:54:16 PM
hopfully decca  will not auto tune joes beauiful voice the way syco did with WA ANYWAY --- I TRUST THEY WONT .
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 06, 2012, 12:20:30 AM
i can't see deca autotuning Joe, hopefully they won't!
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Post by: don'tstopbelievin on May 06, 2012, 11:44:35 AM
They better not put autotune on there, otherwise I'll be up to South Shields or wherever he is and give him a talking to! needs a wiggle finger smiley?
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Post by: judetheobscure on May 06, 2012, 11:51:46 AM
needs a wiggle finger smiley?

:fingerwag: is what you are after I believe  :-)
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Post by: don'tstopbelievin on May 06, 2012, 12:27:42 PM
Yes Jude that's what I was looking for!  :fingerwag: Mr Mcelderry, otherwise, I'm going to be cross lol joking
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 06, 2012, 03:15:06 PM
really can't wait to hear something new from joe!
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Post by: Poppet68 on May 07, 2012, 09:50:25 AM
I have faith in Decca, they know what they have got with Joe and do not need to auto tune his voice.

I am getting really excited  :goofy:    :hurrah:   :wavehat:
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Post by: joan46 on May 07, 2012, 10:03:05 AM
  :goodpost: Poppet it all exciting , I can't wait top hear album number 4   :wavehat:  :wavehat:  :wavehat:
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 07, 2012, 10:14:26 AM
me too, i'm getting excited as well!
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Post by: Poppet68 on May 07, 2012, 10:21:13 AM
It might be party time later  :party:
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Post by: MEW on May 07, 2012, 10:45:12 AM
I was just thinking he hasn't done a ustream in ages and how exciting it would be if he did one from the recording studio. :swoon:
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Post by: joan46 on May 07, 2012, 11:08:57 AM
It might be party time later  :party:


Count me in Poppet  :turn:  :cheers:  :party:
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Post by: orchid on May 07, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
I was just thinking he hasn't done a ustream in ages and how exciting it would be if he did one from the recording studio. :swoon:

 :goodpost:  That's a great idea MEW.
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Post by: Trudy on May 07, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
great idea mew
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Post by: carisma on May 07, 2012, 04:32:54 PM
Lisa ‏ @lisa_in_music
Get in!! ... @joemcelderry91 on @BBCR1 just now! More of the same please R1 later this summer. Heard he has awesome new material. Wooo!
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Post by: litcar on May 07, 2012, 04:35:41 PM
Lisa ‏ @lisa_in_music
@officialcharts @BBCR1 #R1OfficialChart I thought the @joemcelderry91 segment was pretty great ;o)
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Post by: orchid on May 07, 2012, 04:46:00 PM
Lisa ‏ @lisa_in_music
Get in!! ... @joemcelderry91 on @BBCR1 just now! More of the same please R1 later this summer. Heard he has awesome new material. Wooo!

Ohh, that's a bit exciting, even if Lisa is a huge fan of Joe's :hurrah: :goofy:
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Post by: KR51 on May 07, 2012, 04:50:54 PM
I wonder where she gets her information from as everything about the album should be hush hush.
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Post by: judetheobscure on May 07, 2012, 04:52:13 PM
Maybe just the same as us - PR speak and all that  :whistle:
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 07, 2012, 04:52:41 PM
:) loved lisa's tweets!
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Post by: KR51 on May 07, 2012, 04:59:11 PM
:) loved lisa's tweets!

Me too Jade, she is a fan though which does help, she can do all the PR for him as far as im concerned. :D
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Post by: Trudy on May 07, 2012, 05:35:29 PM
GO LISA ---- she works in PR --- she may have heard about some of the songs tho
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Post by: Sug60 on May 07, 2012, 08:16:27 PM
Lovely tweets from Lisa think she likes Joe a little bit   :-) :ilovejoe:
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Post by: litcar on May 07, 2012, 09:10:46 PM
Aaron Dickey ‏ @AaronDickey6607
@joemcelderry91 I just bought "Classic" and I must say, you have done it again. Truly an inspiration. I am a huge American Fan of yours :)


I know its not about album 4 but I think he'll be buying it when it comes out.
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Post by: carisma on May 07, 2012, 09:12:02 PM
Final recordings starting tomorrow  ;)  I suppose that process can take quite a while though .... roll on September  :scream:
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Post by: Trudy on May 07, 2012, 09:15:22 PM
yes final recordings altho out in sept/ oct  was date its out --- maybe its the final songs they picked
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Post by: judetheobscure on May 07, 2012, 09:16:39 PM
Beyond excited  :excite:  :excite:  :spasm:
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Post by: mihi on May 07, 2012, 09:19:39 PM
Perhaps they will follow a different strategy now, first one or two singles, in order for that to happen they would need all the tracks on the album to be done before they can pick the single
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Post by: Trudy on May 07, 2012, 09:24:20 PM
you maybe right mihi --- hope they pick right single for radio
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Post by: Poppet68 on May 07, 2012, 09:27:41 PM
We have been waiting a long time for this, Joe in studio recording his next album  :wavehat:   :wavehat:   :party:
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Post by: s on May 07, 2012, 09:28:58 PM
does anyone know how recording is done?
i'm just wondering if the final music is already done and they just record his voice and add it, or if they decide on the final musical effects after he has recorded his vocals...
i wanna be a microphone in that studio!!!!
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Post by: Trudy on May 07, 2012, 09:40:28 PM
think we all wanna be a fly on the studio walls
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Post by: Poppet68 on May 07, 2012, 09:44:26 PM
Too right Trudy, we would all like to be there
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Post by: don'tstopbelievin on May 07, 2012, 09:54:36 PM
I'm so excited about Album 4 I could seriously pop! My friend wants to buy it, she says if he uses autotune which I know he won't, then she'll not buy it and she'll buy someone else's album. Not OM thank god, she's not a big fan of OM, she prefers other artistes who can actually sing!
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 07, 2012, 11:00:08 PM
so so so excited!!!
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Post by: joan46 on May 08, 2012, 10:28:55 AM
Aaron Dickey ‏ @AaronDickey6607
@joemcelderry91 I just bought "Classic" and I must say, you have done it again. Truly an inspiration. I am a huge American Fan of yours :)


I know its not about album 4 but I think he'll be buying it when it comes out.


I love to see these messages from overseas fans  :hurrah:  :hurrah:  :hurrah:
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Post by: Trudy on May 08, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
i love to see the overseas fans tweets too --- get joe to usa  :wavehat:
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Post by: s on May 10, 2012, 12:27:46 AM
Taken from Joe's website under "about":


"2012 sets to be another exciting year for the Classic star. Joe is currently back in the studio, recording new tracks for his forthcoming album which includes exciting collaborations with the chart-topping vocalist, guitarist and songwriter (of Shakespears Sister fame) Marcella Detroit, and the Italian pianist-turned-popstar Ludovico Einaudi.

Joe’s highly-anticipated third album with Universal is due for release in the late autumn."
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Post by: JazDarcy on May 10, 2012, 12:29:05 AM
2012 sets to be another exciting year for the Classic star. Joe is currently back in the studio, recording new tracks for his forthcoming album which includes exciting collaborations with the chart-topping vocalist, guitarist and songwriter (of Shakespears Sister fame) Marcella Detroit, and the Italian pianist-turned-popstar Ludovico Einaudi.

Joe’s highly-anticipated third album with Universal is due for release in the late autumn.


YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :hurrah: :goofy: :hurrah: :wavehat: This album is going to be flipping incredible  :-) :goofy: :hurrah: EEEEEEEEEEEKKK!!!
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Post by: s on May 10, 2012, 12:29:27 AM
Did you guys see that on his about page?? Oh my god I am so happy. Ludovico einaudi. That song is going to be epic, I am sure. I was going to take one of his music on his latest album to inspired me to writ ep something for Joe....  :shock1: his music is absolutely gorgeous!!!!
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Post by: s on May 10, 2012, 12:30:50 AM
2012 sets to be another exciting year for the Classic star. Joe is currently back in the studio, recording new tracks for his forthcoming album which includes exciting collaborations with the chart-topping vocalist, guitarist and songwriter (of Shakespears Sister fame) Marcella Detroit, and the Italian pianist-turned-popstar Ludovico Einaudi.

Joe’s highly-anticipated third album with Universal is due for release in the late autumn.


YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :hurrah: :goofy: :hurrah: :wavehat: This album is going to be flipping incredible  :-) :goofy: :hurrah: EEEEEEEEEEEKKK!!!

I was sleepy. Can't sleep anymore....  :hurrah:
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Post by: Ann67 on May 10, 2012, 12:32:41 AM
 :thankyou: Sandy for the Info - this album is going to be absolutely amazing - sooooo excited  :hurrah:  :goofy:  :hurrah:
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Post by: s on May 10, 2012, 12:35:39 AM
Thanx to gill. I actually assumed it was the same as it was before, considering south shields is stil as sheilds... Cannot wait to hear that... Waow. Will have to look for marcella Detroit though...
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Post by: JazDarcy on May 10, 2012, 12:37:22 AM
Thanx to gill. I actually assumed it was the same as it was before, considering south shields is stil as sheilds... Cannot wait to hear that... Waow. Will have to look for marcella Detroit though...

She did the first series of PSTOS, came third. As for shakespeare sisters, I only know one song which is stay.
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Post by: judetheobscure on May 10, 2012, 12:41:29 AM
She's fantastic - I wanted her to win the first series :)

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Post by: Trudy on May 10, 2012, 12:42:59 AM
marcella detroit === PSTOS series 1----- 3rd ---- really great singer on it --- should have won --- i thought she was good at opera--- was in shakesperes sister  etc
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on May 10, 2012, 06:30:02 AM
Taken from Joe's website under "about":


"2012 sets to be another exciting year for the Classic star. Joe is currently back in the studio, recording new tracks for his forthcoming album which includes exciting collaborations with the chart-topping vocalist, guitarist and songwriter (of Shakespears Sister fame) Marcella Detroit, and the Italian pianist-turned-popstar Ludovico Einaudi.

Joe’s highly-anticipated third album with Universal is due for release in the late autumn."

Thank you Sandy! Brilliant news..can't wait!!  :hurrah: :goofy: :hurrah: :goofy:
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Post by: carisma on May 10, 2012, 06:39:12 AM
Ok ... this sounds exciting.  Marcella Detroit is a singer/songwriter so I wonder if the collaboration is a singing or writing one.  She worked with people like Bob Seger and Eric Clapton before she joined Shakespears Sister (a long time ago).

Adayseye  :wave: introduced me to Einaudi, I agree with Sandy, his music is beautiful  :sigh:
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Post by: Hayley on May 10, 2012, 06:55:39 AM
 :thankyou: Sandy, sounds good.  :cat:
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Post by: JoeMegaFan on May 10, 2012, 07:53:29 AM
Thanks Sandy for that info.
Wowowowowowowow!
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Post by: MEW on May 10, 2012, 08:07:56 AM
I didn't even bother reading it that far. :shock1: :blush:
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Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 10, 2012, 09:21:10 AM
thanks for the info sandy!!!
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Post by: cassi on May 10, 2012, 09:47:28 AM
  :thankyou: for the info Sandy this album is going to be epic . :hurrah: :wavehat: :goofy: :wavehat:
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on May 10, 2012, 09:49:27 AM
I had read that page I think before that info was added. So thanks to Tedbear/Sandy for finding it & bringing it here.... :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 10, 2012, 09:50:28 AM
I've actually never heard of either of them. :blush:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on May 10, 2012, 10:54:51 AM
Thanks Sandy i had never heard of the composer and have just listened to his latest album Islands on itunes and he does make beautiful music. Really looking forward to hearing what he does with Joe's music.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on May 10, 2012, 11:06:01 AM
 :thankyou: Sandy, I've just had a quick listen too and it's lovely, this album will be something to blow everyone away I'm sure, sooooo excited   :hurrah:  :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on May 10, 2012, 11:16:36 AM
Just catching up on here . OMG its going to be megga amazing   :hurrah:  :hurrah:  :hurrah:  :hurrah:  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 10, 2012, 11:25:48 AM
looking forward to album 4 :hurrah: :goofy: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on May 10, 2012, 06:25:45 PM
Great announcement...love that some things are revealed  :-)
Thanks SandyP !
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on May 10, 2012, 06:45:45 PM
Its sounding better and better with every little bit of information.  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sug60 on May 10, 2012, 06:52:26 PM
Thanks Sandy wow it certainly sounds like this album will blow us away getting very excited about it the more we hear the better it gets  :hurrah:  :hurrah:  :ilovejoe:  :hurrah:  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: kanga samps on May 10, 2012, 07:33:35 PM
This sounds absolutely brilliant - so much good stuff to come. I saw some Youtube videos of Marcella in PSTOS and she was fabulous
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on May 10, 2012, 07:50:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbeAv16sVCk

Marcella Detroit on PSTOS . Brilliant
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on May 10, 2012, 07:54:25 PM
and on the beginning of this one she says who she has written for....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJrnWGt68Wg
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on May 10, 2012, 08:45:19 PM
WOW
I have to admit, that in Shakespeare's Sister days. I always thought she was ..eehmm odd. But to be honest, I only knew a song a or 2.
She comes across as very genuine and original, I am really curious what she has written for Joe!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 10, 2012, 09:04:08 PM
she was very good on PSTOS 1ST SERIES  TACOM :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on May 10, 2012, 09:05:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eXw47qb4U0

It didn't say if she was writing or singing. Not inconceivable that it could be both - her voice would be quite a good match.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: kanga samps on May 10, 2012, 09:35:31 PM
As long as it isn't just collaboration on the video, scary stuff! Absolutely delighted that Joe is again working with some spectacular talent. It's all is looking very good.  :decca: :firework:
 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 10, 2012, 09:37:56 PM
Fantastic news  :hurrah: OMG I can't wait to hear the songs  :hurrah:

I need to sit down, so much great news at the moment, my old heart can't stand the pace  :hurrah: :goofy: :wavehat: :hurrah: :goofy: :wavehat:   :ilovejoe:   :ten:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 11, 2012, 01:56:34 PM
omg, so excited for this album!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 11, 2012, 02:15:27 PM
very excited --- think joe said marcella has written for him -- and joe will have 3/4 songs that joe  wrote/ co wrote  on album 4 :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 11, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
I am so please some of the songs Joe wrote will be on the album  :hurrah:   :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on May 11, 2012, 02:20:10 PM
What a wonderful summer - so Joeful & then the album...... aw... :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carm on May 11, 2012, 03:08:08 PM
Such exciting times  :balloons: :firework:  can't wait for the 4th album.   :ilovejoe: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Anetto on May 11, 2012, 03:44:03 PM
Such exciting times. Can't wait for album No4. It is going to be :hurrah: brilliant!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on May 11, 2012, 03:56:21 PM
Its fantastic and I cant wait to hear Joe's songs   :wavehat:  :wavehat:  :wavehat: Woooooo Hoooooooo  :hurrah:  :hurrah:  :hurrah: :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on May 11, 2012, 03:58:02 PM
very excited --- think joe said marcella has written for him --

Marcella has written with Joe :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 11, 2012, 05:15:04 PM
cant wait to hear the marcella/ joe written song jude  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: bryder on May 11, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
Really excited for this album and also excited to see all the promo and videos.  What another great year is in store for us all.   :hurrah:  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JazDarcy on May 12, 2012, 02:05:27 PM
Just to add to what sandy posted a few days ago, did anyone see this on the about page?


 In 2011 alone, Joe sold over 550,000 albums – a staggering achievement for any artist to accomplish.


That's incredible! SO proud!


Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on May 12, 2012, 02:24:07 PM
I'm going to post that on twitter - I'm sure Sandy will have posted it before but its never a bad thing to put it out there again... :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 12, 2012, 03:04:18 PM
great  acheivment for joe. :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 12, 2012, 04:22:44 PM
Well done Joe  :wavehat:   :wavehat: the love is spreading  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on May 12, 2012, 06:09:18 PM
Great that it is mentioned, spread the word!  Awesome sales figures!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carm on May 12, 2012, 06:41:34 PM
 :wavehat: :wavehat: Well done Joe - what an achievement  :ten:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on May 12, 2012, 07:12:30 PM
Just to add to what sandy posted a few days ago, did anyone see this on the about page?


 In 2011 alone, Joe sold over 550,000 albums – a staggering achievement for any artist to accomplish.


That's incredible! SO proud!

Sure is a great achievement.  Would love to see a breakdown of where that figure comes from, wonder if it's worldwide etc.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on May 12, 2012, 07:19:58 PM
Yaaaaaaay way to go Joey   :wavehat:  :wavehat:  :wavehat: Well done  :hurrah:  :hurrah:  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on May 12, 2012, 08:55:34 PM
I am just so happy and proud of Joe, it hasn't been the easiest journey for him but look where we are now. :wavehat: :wavehat: :hurrah: :goofy:  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 12, 2012, 09:11:17 PM
Agree it has been hard for Joe at times, but as the song goes, It's the Climb  :goofy:   :wavehat:   :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 13, 2012, 07:00:11 PM
From Marcela Detroit's website, under latest news. It dates from the end of last year or beginning of this year:

"Other than that, I'll be in the UK at the end of this coming February to do some writing and meet with some business associates and friends. Hope to see you in the near future. I hope to be doing some gigs in the UK and the states very soon."
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 13, 2012, 07:51:30 PM
managed to catch up at last and listen to Marcella Detroit.
Waow! She's got some kind of voice on her...
She has written with really big people so it all sounds really good for album 4... it's bound to have a few masterpieces on it...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 13, 2012, 08:40:26 PM
 yes album 4 sounds great --- cant wait for this album  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on May 13, 2012, 08:50:21 PM
Sounds good, thanks Sandy.  :wink:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: SpanishJoeFan on May 13, 2012, 09:47:04 PM
 :thankyou: Sandy, very interesting info.

I'm feeling more and more excited for album 4th!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: queenie4joe on May 13, 2012, 10:35:36 PM
Thanks for finding all this  information for us sandy- greatly appreciated :thankyou:

I'm waiting with bated breath for Album 4, excited - just know it'll be great  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 13, 2012, 10:55:03 PM
Thanks for the info, every bit of info I read about Joe's next album I get more and more excited. :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 14, 2012, 12:10:37 AM
aaah, so excited!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 14, 2012, 01:28:56 AM
think album 4 will be a killer album  :ilovejoe: :ten:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on May 14, 2012, 11:20:55 AM
think album 4 will be a killer album  :ilovejoe: :ten:

So do I Trudy, can't wait for it. :wavehat: :ten:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 14, 2012, 11:59:30 AM
hope joes better for the studios on wednesday---- and back to  recording album  4 :yourock:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on May 14, 2012, 03:37:03 PM
I am sure Joe will be on the Honey and Lemon  , so he is in fine voice for Wednesday and more recording   :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 14, 2012, 04:07:04 PM
yes sure joe will be on honey/ lemon  for his man flu ------ he has recordig  wednesday/ and that tv show on 5 too -- get well soon joe  :tissue:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on May 14, 2012, 04:49:59 PM
And a Westlife concert to attend  :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 14, 2012, 04:52:15 PM
yes joe has westlife concert too  :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 18, 2012, 09:41:25 PM
Joe back in studio next week  :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 18, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
joes back in studios :hurrah: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mr wombat on May 19, 2012, 11:58:15 PM
I've been looking at some International charts.  The current Brazilian singles charts have 7 or 9 Anglo songs in them (depending on which chart you look at).  The Wanted are #22. probably due to the trickle down effect of their popularity in America.  It indicates the impact from appearing on a big American TV show.

I hope Joe's management try extra extra hard (payola?) to get him onto American TV.  As much as I would like to see the album finished sooner than later, they shouldn't finish it unless they have at least one radio-friendly song.

80% of Adele's sales have been outside the UK, split evenly between America and the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mr wombat on May 20, 2012, 12:02:38 AM
I forgot to mention, that was 7 or 9 songs out of 20.  That's 35 to 45%.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 20, 2012, 05:18:55 AM
 :thankyou: for the info, yes I would love to hear that Joe is selling albums in America, they will love him  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 21, 2012, 10:07:55 AM
I really want to hear some more new music from joe!!! i'm getting withdrawal symptoms!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 21, 2012, 02:19:37 PM
Me to Jade
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 21, 2012, 03:42:52 PM
well we have to wait til september  ladies  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on May 21, 2012, 04:55:30 PM
That's true Trudy, but wishing my life away here. :D :D
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 21, 2012, 04:58:31 PM
yes i know wishing life away  seems to be somthing we always do cassi
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 21, 2012, 07:38:13 PM
It will be worth the wait  :wavehat:  :wavehat:  :cat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: don'tstopbelievin on May 22, 2012, 09:26:54 AM
I really can't wait for Album 4! New music from Joe, can't wait. Looking forward to being able to showing my friend. She's mad on him now!
She reckons that if we play the album loads of times, then we'll wear it out and she can just have the picture of him lol
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 22, 2012, 09:34:44 PM
We are all waiting, ready with credit cards in hand to buy album, and book tickets for the tour  :hurrah:   :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 22, 2012, 11:50:58 PM
hope to see you at tour poppet  after album4 is out :ilovejoe: :ten:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 23, 2012, 08:03:37 PM
Yes Trudy I can't wait  :hurrah: :hurrah: :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 23, 2012, 08:22:51 PM
would you go to london show on a tour poppet----- not sure where you live -- think its south tho???
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 23, 2012, 08:25:36 PM
would you go to london show on a tour poppet----- not sure where you live -- think its south tho???

Yes Trudy, I live in Essex, but I hope to travel to some others as well as in the South.  I am saving my pennies  :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 26, 2012, 10:34:51 PM
Hayley Downes ‏@Hubz1988
Exclusive for you the album is going to be releases 17th Sept. only around 6 songs left to record before starts shooting the video etc.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 26, 2012, 10:40:39 PM
Same day as Tulisa's album. ( :hurrah: )
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on May 26, 2012, 10:43:32 PM
Same day as Tulisa's album. ( :hurrah: )
decisions decisions
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on May 26, 2012, 10:44:08 PM
Hayley Downes ‏@Hubz1988
Exclusive for you the album is going to be releases 17th Sept. only around 6 songs left to record before starts shooting the video etc.
Eeeeekk :goofy: exciting times!! Like the sound of video too, wonder does that mean a single!!
I'm off on holidays til the 15th so won't be able to get the album the very first day its released here :( But should be able to download it Saturday night :cool2:
Sounds like they are making good progress :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 26, 2012, 10:45:48 PM
thanks hayley and sandy for exclusive  :thankyou:--- 17th sept and only 6 songs left to record ---BRILLIANT :hurrah: :goofy: :wavehat:-- and a video -- so joey has been a busy boy  :hurrah: :goofy: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Craftie16 on May 26, 2012, 10:46:19 PM
Same day as Tulisa's album. ( :hurrah: )
decisions decisions

Why do I not like that :( - her single went No1 and wasnt that good - I really really really want Joe to get a No1 album
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 26, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
Same day as Tulisa's album. ( :hurrah: )
decisions decisions

Why do I not like that :( - her single went No1 and wasnt that good - I really really really want Joe to get a No1 album

don't doubt him ;)  :haha: nor us!!!  :lol:
everyone, start saving!!  :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 26, 2012, 10:49:17 PM
mew the desision is buy joe first week -- and tulisa next week.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 26, 2012, 10:56:17 PM
Same day as Tulisa's album. ( :hurrah: )
decisions decisions

Why do I not like that :( - her single went No1 and wasnt that good - I really really really want Joe to get a No1 album
If it makes you feel better, Classic Chrismas did allot better than N-Dubz greatest hits and they came out on the same day too.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: tinabee on May 26, 2012, 10:56:57 PM
mew the desision is buy joe first week -- and tulisa next week.
Good advice Trudy. :thumbsup: Mew take note! Joe first every time.  :wink:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Craftie16 on May 26, 2012, 10:57:57 PM
Same day as Tulisa's album. ( :hurrah: )
decisions decisions

Why do I not like that :( - her single went No1 and wasnt that good - I really really really want Joe to get a No1 album
If it makes you feel better, Classic Chrismas did allot better than N-Dubz greatest hits and they came out on the same day too.

ok then :cool2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 26, 2012, 10:58:42 PM
mew dont let joe/ joenuts down
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 26, 2012, 10:58:55 PM
and we want it to stay at the top for long. Not only a number 1 week 1... ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 26, 2012, 11:01:26 PM
yes no1 for a few weeks at least sandy  :cool2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 26, 2012, 11:02:11 PM
There's nothing wrong with getting both on the same day, I've had Tulisa's album on pre order for a while now anyway, I'll be getting Joes album twice too, CD and iTunes maybe 3 times if they offer signed copies anywhere.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 26, 2012, 11:05:17 PM
good boy mew
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 26, 2012, 11:06:07 PM
There's nothing wrong with getting both on the same day, I've had Tulisa's album on pre order for a while now anyway, I'll be getting Joes album twice too, CD and iTunes maybe 3 times if they offer signed copies anywhere.

me too. at least 3 copies.
of course there is nothing wrong in buying someone else's album on the same day.  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 26, 2012, 11:07:43 PM
we always buy more copies of joe anyway too
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on May 26, 2012, 11:38:51 PM
I'll be on holiday until the 25th  :(, should we be able to preorder it now that a date has been announced?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 26, 2012, 11:41:49 PM
it's not on Play.com yet... I've just checked.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on May 26, 2012, 11:44:22 PM
it's not on Play.com yet... I've just checked.

Thanks Sandy, i'll have to keep checking. :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 26, 2012, 11:45:19 PM
I checked amazon too, not there either yet.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 26, 2012, 11:46:44 PM
I checked amazon too, not there either yet.

not on HMV either.
Play.com had it first I think for Classic. At least they had the title first.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 26, 2012, 11:55:41 PM
when is Little Mix's album coming out????
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 27, 2012, 12:10:20 AM
when is Little Mix's album coming out????
3rd september
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on May 27, 2012, 05:14:02 AM
Hayley Downes ‏@Hubz1988
Exclusive for you the album is going to be releases 17th Sept. only around 6 songs left to record before starts shooting the video etc.

 :hurrah: :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: pumpkin queen on May 27, 2012, 07:42:26 AM
Hayley Downes ‏@Hubz1988
Exclusive for you the album is going to be releases 17th Sept. only around 6 songs left to record before starts shooting the video etc.

 :hurrah: :goofy:

woooooopeeeeeeeeeeeee   Thats my daughters birthday  :present: :birthday:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on May 27, 2012, 10:47:16 AM
Great that there is now a date for the album :)  I am already starting to feel apprehensive about its release and its made me remember the days of 'the worry thread'!! Anyway, I thought I would share my concerns here - get them off my chest - and then begin to look forward to the album. So sorry in advance for this post.

Just desperately hoping that a single ahead of the album does get accepted for some airplay. :pray: I've been trying to think of TV shows around in September that Joe can promote on as as there is no Strictly etc I'm wondering where he might be able to appear on prime time TV, just wondering if Jonothan Ross will be back or something else along those lines. He so needs the exposure.

Just concerned as I know that this is probably the most important part of Joe's career to date and really want it to be a success for him.  (I understand he will be up against Tulisa as well as others and I think it is necessary to take 'the competition' aspect away from this release but I still think it would be great for Joe to do relatively well in the charts - mainly for him but also to silence the critics.  As we know Tulisa is a favourite on the radio - as well as others such as Cheryl - and it makes such an enormous difference). I guess its just that many have said that WA was underated and unlistened to by many and I don't want this one to go the same way.

Anyway, I guess DECCA have the marketing and promotion in place and I really shouldn't worry.  The important thing is Joe releases an album he is proud of, we have an album we can enjoy and everything else is a bonus.

Scuttles off rattling worry beads................ :sorry:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on May 27, 2012, 10:56:43 AM
Ditto SusieD, why isn't Strictly on this year, or does it start after 17th?

I hope Decca have all this under control & sorted out. I'm nervous & excited.

I don't think Joe will beat Tulisa, but I also dont think Decca will expect him too.  Think we have to try & remember there will always be competition & we just have to hope this album sells well.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 27, 2012, 11:00:54 AM
I was going to say: you will never silence the critics! Because you can never please everyone in any one time.

I am confident for this one for some reason.
so allow me:  :goofy:  :hurrah:  :wavehat: (yes, even this one!!!!)
 :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 27, 2012, 11:05:03 AM
I'm just hoping it has the same success as Classic, if not, maybe a tiny notch more.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 27, 2012, 11:14:29 AM
a tiny notch more?
no way!
this one will go platinum quickly!!!  :determined:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JazDarcy on May 27, 2012, 11:15:46 AM
I'm just hoping it has the same success as Classic, if not, maybe a tiny notch more.

I was thinking about this last night, and if he can get the first few weeks of classic sales in week 1 this time (and I honestly think he could) he'd have massive sales. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 27, 2012, 11:16:16 AM
Ok then, platinum in a day, no.1 for 10 weeks. Is that better? :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 27, 2012, 11:19:49 AM
very positive.
I don't really care about number 1 now. Because it really depends on what else is coming out that week. It's going to be difficult if there is a big name coming out with an album at the same time.
What really matters is the number of album he is going to sell. I think it will be a lot more than classic, and straight in the first few weeks of the release.
I hope it will stay longer than Classic in the charts as well ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on May 27, 2012, 11:37:48 AM
I'm so excited to hear this album. There's no doubt Joe will deliver vocally, and I think from comments we've seen the songs are going to be fabulous. I think it'll all be down to the skills of the label and agency to massively market and promote for all they're worth. Looking back at what the Universal did for him last year and the money they spent, I'm very optimistic this is what's going to happen. I think there will be loads of stuff lined up for when we get nearer to the release date.

 :hurrah:    :hurrah:     :hurrah:    :hurrah: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: SpanishJoeFan on May 27, 2012, 11:53:20 AM
I'm so excited to hear this album. There's no doubt Joe will deliver vocally, and I think from comments we've seen the songs are going to be fabulous. I think it'll all be down to the skills of the label and agency to massively market and promote for all they're worth. Looking back at what the Universal did for him last year and the money they spent, I'm very optimistic this is what's going to happen. I think there will be loads of stuff lined up for when we get nearer to the release date.

 :hurrah:    :hurrah:     :hurrah:    :hurrah: :ilovejoe:
:goodpost:

I'm feeling nervous too, but I have decided to trust Joe and Decca.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: kanga samps on May 27, 2012, 01:34:36 PM
I am with you guys too, feel very positive about this - although maybe we should have a new worry thread for when the going gets tough, or the light at the end of the tunnel is just not appearing quick enough.

I trust Joe and Decca, and believe that this will be even better than anything we have had from Joe. His experience and confidence are all beginning to come through now. As we all know though it is all about the hype and the promotion as far as sales go, so keeping everything crossed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: queenie4joe on May 27, 2012, 02:09:49 PM
Well I categorically refuse to be apprehensive over this album- It will be out of this world, and Decca  etc. will do all the right things regarding  'getting Joe out there' promoting him!!!!  and me I'll continue taking the tablets   :haha: :zen:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 27, 2012, 02:10:25 PM
Well I categorically refuse to be apprehensive over this album- It will be out of this world, and Decca  etc. will do all the right things regarding  'getting Joe out there' promoting him!!!!  and me I'll continue taking the tablets   :haha: :zen:

me too!!!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 27, 2012, 02:53:08 PM
really hope joe does well with album 4 --- even if it sells the same as classic and goes gold we will be happy --- joes so much better than tulisa -- but -- she will ; be very  hyped upwith xf too --- i trust that  decca will promote joe and have faith in joe too  :hurrah: :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 27, 2012, 03:26:16 PM
really excited for this album!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sug60 on May 27, 2012, 03:49:39 PM
I have to admit my tummy has the jitters just thinking about it all but i have faith in Decca and am sure they will promote Joe well. I have a big feeling this album is really going to do well and lets hope for a No. 1 but where ever it charts we will still be proud of Joe. Goodness knows what my BP will be like when 17th September comes though, we are away but come home on the 11th September so plenty of time for it cannot wait  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on May 27, 2012, 04:00:50 PM
Well I categorically refuse to be apprehensive over this album- It will be out of this world, and Decca  etc. will do all the right things regarding  'getting Joe out there' promoting him!!!!  and me I'll continue taking the tablets   :haha: :zen:

I'm going to take a leaf out of your book and also start taking the tablets - several at a time!!!! :D

(As someone has said - Decca have their expectations and they are no way like that of other labels having watched the album by Noah Stewart - so I know deep down he will be fine and as Sandypandy says - the critics will never be silenced. :))
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 27, 2012, 04:09:38 PM
I agree with you susie. :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 27, 2012, 08:22:15 PM
Just checked play.com for the pre order again, have a feeling I'll be doing this very often for a while. :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 27, 2012, 08:29:21 PM
Just checked play.com for the pre order again, have a feeling I'll be doing this very often for a while. :snigger:

me too...  :snigger: and amazon... and hmv...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: marylou on May 27, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
Swimming against the tide here I know but personally I hope he doesn't release a single... Just an excellent album.. dont give a fig about the singles charts full of tripe anyway and for the life of me cannot understand the clamouring for him to release one....At the end of the day It doesnt amount to a hill of beans!     ...IN MY opinion...... ;)             :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on May 27, 2012, 08:51:06 PM
Just checked play.com for the pre order again, have a feeling I'll be doing this very often for a while. :snigger:

me too...  :snigger: and amazon... and hmv...

Will you be keeping a diary?  :rofl2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 27, 2012, 08:52:11 PM
the reason why I want a single is so that we have a song way before the album is out.
But also because it could be a single that is good for radio and it would make him heard by more people.
It will help promote the album. And when the album is out, BOOM!!!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 27, 2012, 08:55:46 PM
Just checked play.com for the pre order again, have a feeling I'll be doing this very often for a while. :snigger:

me too...  :snigger: and amazon... and hmv...

Will you be keeping a diary?  :rofl2:

yep!
I don't do spreadsheets outside of work, but I write everything down on my diary.
I even have for the 5th of june that if 6 tickets were sold a day for Wirral, then the show would be sold out... that's what Litcar said on page 49 of the thread... :boast:
I'm the queen of diary  :queen:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 27, 2012, 08:57:10 PM
I really want there to be a single, if there was one I'm sure we'll hear it at New Brighton too. Oh the thought of it. :excite:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 27, 2012, 08:58:30 PM
i think joe said there may be a single if they find a radio friendly one --- so maybe --- i think joe is more of an albums singer -- so im not too bothered about singles most in charts are rubbish anyway.

 good luck to joes album 4  :ten:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on May 27, 2012, 09:01:12 PM
I'd like a single too, so that hopefully it will be played on the radio and so promote the album, not too bothered about where it charts though would like it to get a decent position cause obviously the higher it placed the more it would get played...you'd think anyway so more people would hear about the album!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on May 27, 2012, 09:16:03 PM
I'd like a single that gets played on radio and starts altering the media and the public's perception of him  :cool:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 27, 2012, 09:33:14 PM
Agree, I would love a single so all these radio stations would have to eat hunble pie and admit Joe is amasing.

But the album is the most important thing, great sales and a good chart position
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 27, 2012, 09:49:31 PM
a single would be great if we hear it at new brighton --- but --- if no single -- thats fine too im more bothered about album 4 tho
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 27, 2012, 10:12:48 PM
i wonder if we'll be able to preorder on iTunes or not?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 27, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
Im not pre ordering it of iTunes unless there's an extra song for it, it never downloads straight away like I want it to.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 27, 2012, 10:33:00 PM
I remember I had double on iTunes when i preordered classic, it didn't download straight away either.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: tinabee on May 27, 2012, 11:27:47 PM
The nail biting has started  :nervous:   :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 27, 2012, 11:30:11 PM
I remember I had double on iTunes when i preordered classic, it didn't download straight away either.
I'm just gonna stay up on iTunes refreshing the page at midnight until it lets me download, much quicker that way.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 27, 2012, 11:41:02 PM
I remember I had double on iTunes when i preordered classic, it didn't download straight away either.
I'm just gonna stay up on iTunes refreshing the page at midnight until it lets me download, much quicker that way.

I will do that too, at the hotel.... if I'm still awake after the GNR...  :snigger:
do you know how many MB I will need to download a whole album? I'm not sure i will have free wi fi at the hotel...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on May 28, 2012, 01:49:10 AM
I'd like a single that gets played on radio and starts altering the media and the public's perception of him  :cool:
:goodpost: Me too
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 28, 2012, 07:31:47 AM
I remember I had double on iTunes when i preordered classic, it didn't download straight away either.
I'm just gonna stay up on iTunes refreshing the page at midnight until it lets me download, much quicker that way.

I will do that too, at the hotel.... if I'm still awake after the GNR...  :snigger:
do you know how many MB I will need to download a whole album? I'm not sure i will have free wi fi at the hotel...
Guess that depends how many songs there are. ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 28, 2012, 07:47:23 AM
OMG I have a new obsession, looking on Play, Amazon, HMV to see when I can pre order Joe's new album.  I hope it is soon  :hurrah:   :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on May 28, 2012, 08:09:56 AM
an average CD is between the 80 and the 150 mb, but I think Itunes lets you download it way compacter
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 28, 2012, 08:15:06 AM
an average CD is between the 80 and the 150 mb, but I think Itunes lets you download it way compacter

fantastic! I'll have enough with my usual pay as you go then :D

thanks x
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 28, 2012, 09:39:47 AM
hopefully it won't be long until we can hear the track previews!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Necara on May 28, 2012, 10:38:52 AM
I'd like a single that gets played on radio and starts altering the media and the public's perception of him  :cool:


I think this is crucial and I hope that Joe and Decca have a fantastically strong single up their sleeve to promote the album.

Joe has been given time to develop and grow and when he comes back again it has to be with a amazing offering that will turn everyone toward what we have all known from the beginning.

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 28, 2012, 12:04:01 PM
 WISH JOE LUCK WITH ALBUM4 / SINGLE  :hurrah: :goofy: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on May 28, 2012, 02:25:37 PM
really hope we get to hear joe more on the radio!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on May 28, 2012, 02:28:32 PM
I'd like a single that gets played on radio and starts altering the media and the public's perception of him  :cool:


I think this is crucial and I hope that Joe and Decca have a fantastically strong single up their sleeve to promote the album.

Joe has been given time to develop and grow and when he comes back again it has to be with a amazing offering that will turn everyone toward what we have all known from the beginning.

 :goodpost:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: SpanishJoeFan on May 28, 2012, 07:35:38 PM
hopefully it won't be long until we can hear the track previews!!!

Ooohh yes, it's going to be sooo exciting!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 28, 2012, 07:36:20 PM
Haven't even thought of that yet. :excite:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 28, 2012, 08:39:24 PM
I can't wait  :wavehat: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 29, 2012, 10:37:07 AM
Tulisa's album's been pushed back again.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JazDarcy on May 29, 2012, 10:53:44 AM
Tulisa's album's been pushed back again.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on May 29, 2012, 11:07:37 AM
Tulisa's album's been pushed back again.

 :thumbsup:
:thumbsdown: it was supposed to be summer
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JazDarcy on May 29, 2012, 11:09:09 AM
Tulisa's album's been pushed back again.

 :thumbsup:
:thumbsdown: it was supposed to be summer

I meant in terms of it not being out on the same day as Joe  :blush: Must be really annoying for fans  :(
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 29, 2012, 11:13:44 AM
Tulisa's album's been pushed back again.

 :thumbsup:
:thumbsdown: it was supposed to be summer

I meant in terms of it not being out on the same day as Joe  :blush: Must be really annoying for fans  :(
It's been pushed back and forward so many times now so I'm not really surprised either.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on May 30, 2012, 11:34:25 AM
Quote
Shannon Walker ‏@shannonwalker92
@joemcelderry91 hey! Feeling good about the new album? Is it like wide awake or more like classic?x

Joe McElderry ‏@joemcelderry91
@shannonwalker92 if say in between both bang in the middle! :) x

Quote
Hayley Downes ‏@Hubz1988
@joemcelderry91 How many tracks will there be on the album? X

 Joe McElderry ‏@joemcelderry91
@Hubz1988 Ohhh I'd say 12 but you know me im always one for giving extra and suprising! X

Quote
Maggs ‏@Maggs0002
@joemcelderry91 will there be a single released before the album?

Joe McElderry ‏@joemcelderry91
@Maggs0002 most likely a focus track but will be taken to radio and have a video etc! So pretty much the same :) x

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on May 30, 2012, 11:45:12 AM
 :thankyou: for putting them in here too  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 30, 2012, 12:44:53 PM
loved hayleys reply about how many tracks on album, -- joe says  12 --------but ----YOU KNOW ME -- IM ALWAYS ONE FOR GIVING EXTRA AND SUPRISING
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on May 30, 2012, 04:28:18 PM
loved hayleys reply about how many tracks on album, -- joe says  12 --------but ----YOU KNOW ME -- IM ALWAYS ONE FOR GIVING EXTRA AND SUPRISING


i'm curious with the way Joe say's this, its as if he can choose and has final say about the album. It makes me wonder that Decca are just running with Joe on his terms. What will happen if this album becomes a massive hit, can Decca cope with all that entails or will Universal take over. Looking at the artists that Decca has on its books, they are all people who don't sell huge amounts of albums maybe with the odd exception. Or am I completely wrong about this.  :roll:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 30, 2012, 04:35:56 PM
think joe is just saying 12 ---- but said to hayley about extra and suprising --- maybe he just feels he may want to choose extra as a suprise but id still say decca has last word as they are the label --- if it sells well wont decca be  really happy -- maybe hed go onto universal.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 30, 2012, 06:08:00 PM
most likely a focus track...
have they decided he is not an artist for singles???
and does that mean that however well it will sell, it will not be eligible for the singles chart??? :unsure:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 30, 2012, 06:10:29 PM
most likely a focus track...
have they decided he is not an artist for singles???
and does that mean that however well it will sell, it will not be eligible for the singles chart??? :unsure:
It will chart if enough people buy it individually.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 30, 2012, 06:17:55 PM
so what is the difference?
is it just a question of having the physical single and a side B? (or not having it)?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 30, 2012, 06:27:30 PM
so what is the difference?
is it just a question of having the physical single and a side B? (or not having it)?
Think this is what Joe was trying to say in that tweet, there's no huge difference, just basically what you just said and it won't be available to buy until the album is out. (which is kind of  :jump: )
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on May 30, 2012, 06:37:33 PM
Not available as a physical CD either?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 30, 2012, 06:41:39 PM
Not available as a physical CD either?
Not if it's just a focus track, but then again, Last Christmas was a single but didn't get a CD.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 30, 2012, 07:30:57 PM
true! we would have the video before the album is out but we wouldn't have the song itself until the album is released. Like for Time to Say Goodbye.

I want a single!!!!!!!!  :determined:

Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 30, 2012, 07:33:16 PM
We probably would have heard it by now too if there was a proper single. :jump:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on May 30, 2012, 08:06:23 PM
most likely a focus track...
have they decided he is not an artist for singles???
and does that mean that however well it will sell, it will not be eligible for the singles chart??? :unsure:

I think they have decided Joe isn't a singles artist.  Tbh as long as the focus track has a video, some exposure, promo and hopefully airplay it doesn't really make much of a difference.

I do think and always have that Joe is a albums artist and I am not sure Joe would ever be a high selling single artist, I would rather Joe have focus tracks to promote the album then release a single/s that do not chart very well as it doesn't reflect well on him.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on May 30, 2012, 08:16:01 PM
Yep suppose yer right Hayley :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on May 30, 2012, 08:24:56 PM
Trouble is I want both.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 30, 2012, 08:32:13 PM
Hopefully some day he can become a singles artist as well as albums. :pray: In the meantime, lets enjoy what we get. :cool2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: sandyrose102 on May 30, 2012, 08:50:53 PM
most likely a focus track...
have they decided he is not an artist for singles???
and does that mean that however well it will sell, it will not be eligible for the singles chart??? :unsure:

I think they have decided Joe isn't a singles artist.  Tbh as long as the focus track has a video, some exposure, promo and hopefully airplay it doesn't really make much of a difference.

I do think and always have that Joe is a albums artist and I am not sure Joe would ever be a high selling single artist, I would rather Joe have focus tracks to promote the album then release a single/s that do not chart very well as it doesn't reflect well on him.

I agree with that Hayley.  :goodpost:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on May 30, 2012, 09:03:39 PM
I agree as well Hayley!  :goodpost:

But hey, you never know he could have a huge hit, around the world, with a focus track  :-)
I am positive it will happen, he only needs the right song at the right time. :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 30, 2012, 09:15:57 PM
If it enters the top 20, (the focus track I mean) they might give him another shot at singles.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: marylou on May 30, 2012, 09:22:24 PM
 :goodpost:       and I agree tooo!!

what is the cost of recording,producing, advertising,circulating,promoting a single compared to an album??...anyone know??
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on May 30, 2012, 09:24:26 PM
Hang on, let me rephrase my last post, if the focus track reaches the top 20 in the singles chart (and only if) they would be stupid not to give him another shot at singles for album number 5.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mr wombat on May 30, 2012, 10:00:19 PM

Within the UK he may not need a single, but outside the UK it's the only way he can be promoted, and that's where the money is.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on May 30, 2012, 10:01:23 PM
I think they have decided Joe isn't a singles artist.  Tbh as long as the focus track has a video, some exposure, promo and hopefully airplay it doesn't really make much of a difference.

I do think and always have that Joe is a albums artist and I am not sure Joe would ever be a high selling single artist, I would rather Joe have focus tracks to promote the album then release a single/s that do not chart very well as it doesn't reflect well on him.

 :goodpost: 

I would love to have Joe release a single and hear it all over the radio - but having been subjected to three evenings of Capital radio  :roll2:- whilst doing club runs - I'm not really sure what 'radio friendly' means anymore!!!! Therefore I'm not sure he would receive airplay on that station or R1. (Maybe R2 perhaps?) Pop video stations may include his lead album track - though I'm not sure what their policy is like with regard to non chart singles - they did feature TTSG.

I think Classic did exceptionally well on just TV advertising - and a handful of TV appearances - (imagine how it would have done with some radio airplay?).  I am hopeful that Joe may receive another ad - using the lead single as well a snippets of others - along with, hopefully, one or two more prime time TV shows. In short, I guess I'm holding out for a TV ad amongst other things.  (Maybe the cost implications on having a single release may be one of the issues).

I'm amazed to read that chart topping albums at the moment are selling around 13,000 to reach the Number 1 spot  :shock1:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on May 30, 2012, 10:05:23 PM

Within the UK he may not need a single, but outside the UK it's the only way he can be promoted, and that's where the money is.

Perhaps they may think of releasing a single should they decide to take the album overseas?  I'm sure Decca have a strategy for all of this. Fingers crossed. :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on May 30, 2012, 10:13:32 PM

Within the UK he may not need a single, but outside the UK it's the only way he can be promoted, and that's where the money is.

Perhaps they may think of releasing a single should they decide to take the album overseas?  I'm sure Decca have a strategy for all of this. Fingers crossed. :)

Yep agree Susie.

Mr. Wombat I'm not sure where you are getting the info that singles are where the money is made, it's quite well known that nowadays labels and artists make no money on singles, tbh once the promo costs and production costs are paid for you will probably be making a loss.  Tours are the most profitable part of being an artist, albums coming in after that.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on May 30, 2012, 11:28:45 PM
agree with hayley  :goodpost:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mr wombat on May 31, 2012, 12:12:31 AM
I didn't mean singles make big money, they're just the bait for catching a bigger fish, but when 80% of Adele's album sales are outside the UK, Decca should be cultivating foreign markets.  I could understand them not doing it in the past, but now is the time to start.

I didn't even know Rebecca Ferguson was charting in Australia (or Olly for that matter) until I heard them being used to promote soap operas, and it all started with a single.
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on May 31, 2012, 02:02:29 AM
I like that a single is being called a 'focus' track....  :-)

Being simple minded it occurs to me that it is approaching the charts sideways on - sort of - if its a hit then it goes into the high charts and can be seen as a successful single - if it doesn't then it can be claimed that it was never released in order to hit the singles' chart  :thumbsup:

I love the devious way all this stuff is going.....  :whistle:

Someone is thinking outside the box to get Joe safely past all the resistance the industry has built around him......
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Post by: Trudy on May 31, 2012, 02:20:56 AM
AGREE PING  :goodpost:
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Post by: s on May 31, 2012, 07:34:41 AM
I like that a single is being called a 'focus' track....  :-)

Being simple minded it occurs to me that it is approaching the charts sideways on - sort of - if its a hit then it goes into the high charts and can be seen as a successful single - if it doesn't then it can be claimed that it was never released in order to hit the singles' chart  :thumbsup:

I love the devious way all this stuff is going.....  :whistle:

Someone is thinking outside the box to get Joe safely past all the resistance the industry has built around him......

Seeing it like this doesn't show confidence in the music produced though.
I would much rather think that they won't go in the singles "battle" because they are not interested.
Having said that, Helen Boulding has a single out to promote her new album. And I don't even know if that is going to chart at all. I don't think she is an artist who is out there on the tv screen and on tv shows, or even played on radios... So the story of singles and/or focus tracks really puzzles me.
Might have to ask him about that if we have the opportunity to ask questions at Luton...
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Post by: Hayley on May 31, 2012, 07:39:50 AM
Right get you now Mr. Wombat, I would like to hope taking Joe's music abroad is in the long term plan. Let's see what happens, the album will be released in the UK first of all then will take things from there.
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Post by: Hitomi on May 31, 2012, 08:52:03 AM
Coming out of lurking mode......

I like the idea of having 'focus track(s)' rather than going for single chart battles. As everyone knows, it is difficult for us to agree which song is the best. We like different songs and my favourite changes from time to time. Focus tracks they chose so far were not necessarily my favourites either (e.g. Classic Christmas).

I have been waiting for Joe to be introduced outside the UK for so long and to be honest, I want his 4th album to be released all over the world at the same time rather than waiting to see how well it does in the UK first then decide.
Over the last 2 years, I started to lose faith in the UK public. They seem to be happy seeing the talent show winners to flop.
I don't expect radio stations to suddenly like Joe's songs either unless he has a very unique/contemporary song.

I know what I am hoping is a bit unrealistic but so frustrating that Joe has not officially been introduced to the rest of the world. People need to know about Joe. I am sure that his duet with Dionne Warwick will help and he is doing fine but I just wanted to express my feelings.  :)

 
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Post by: sandyrose102 on May 31, 2012, 09:32:29 AM
Coming out of lurking mode......

I like the idea of having 'focus track(s)' rather than going for single chart battles. As everyone knows, it is difficult for us to agree which song is the best. We like different songs and my favourite changes from time to time. Focus tracks they chose so far were not necessarily my favourites either (e.g. Classic Christmas).

I have been waiting for Joe to be introduced outside the UK for so long and to be honest, I want his 4th album to be released all over the world at the same time rather than waiting to see how well it does in the UK first then decide.
Over the last 2 years, I started to lose faith in the UK public. They seem to be happy seeing the talent show winners to flop.
I don't expect radio stations to suddenly like Joe's songs either unless he has a very unique/contemporary song.

I know what I am hoping is a bit unrealistic but so frustrating that Joe has not officially been introduced to the rest of the world. People need to know about Joe. I am sure that his duet with Dionne Warwick will help and he is doing fine but I just wanted to express my feelings.  :)

Hello Hitomi! Lovely to see you posting again!  :wavehat:

I'm holding onto the hope that when Joe said they were working to a career plan, that included steps to introduce him everywhere and he does mention that he'd like to take his music all over the world so fingers very tightly crossed that this is going to happen. He has many fans from around the world who have joined his new site so I'm sure Universal are taking note of that. I wonder how the radio play works in other countries and whether a large amount of the commercial stations are allowed to be owned by one company.

I agree with you regarding the singles charts. The trouble is with singles these days that you really have to buy them online I think and a lot of Joe's fanbase doesn't do that I suspect.
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Post by: judetheobscure on May 31, 2012, 10:54:05 AM
 :hurrah: Lovely to see you again Hitomi  :wave:

I'm also holding on to the "career plan" hope. He's certainly not doing it a conventional way but as long as I can continue hearing him sing then I really don't mind how he does it - just want him right at the top of that mountain within the, let's say, next five years.
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Post by: Trudy on May 31, 2012, 01:24:19 PM
good post jude :goodpost:
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Post by: Susie D on May 31, 2012, 02:15:06 PM
:hurrah: Lovely to see you again Hitomi  :wave:

I'm also holding on to the "career plan" hope. He's certainly not doing it a conventional way but as long as I can continue hearing him sing then I really don't mind how he does it - just want him right at the top of that mountain within the, let's say, next five years.

 :goodpost:
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Post by: carisma on May 31, 2012, 05:57:11 PM
Coming out of lurking mode......

I like the idea of having 'focus track(s)' rather than going for single chart battles. As everyone knows, it is difficult for us to agree which song is the best. We like different songs and my favourite changes from time to time. Focus tracks they chose so far were not necessarily my favourites either (e.g. Classic Christmas).

I have been waiting for Joe to be introduced outside the UK for so long and to be honest, I want his 4th album to be released all over the world at the same time rather than waiting to see how well it does in the UK first then decide.
Over the last 2 years, I started to lose faith in the UK public. They seem to be happy seeing the talent show winners to flop.
I don't expect radio stations to suddenly like Joe's songs either unless he has a very unique/contemporary song.

I know what I am hoping is a bit unrealistic but so frustrating that Joe has not officially been introduced to the rest of the world. People need to know about Joe. I am sure that his duet with Dionne Warwick will help and he is doing fine but I just wanted to express my feelings.  :)
I soooo wish you would come out of lurking mode more often ... I miss your common sense posts  :wave:

I agree that is is probably better for Joe at the moment not to even attempt the singles charts - a single has to be hyped for weeks before release to make any real impact.  Would prefer to concentrate on the album charts. I think it is a clever move by Decca and one I, for one, am happy with  :cool:
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on May 31, 2012, 06:01:34 PM
Me too - if it charts its a bonus.... but talking about the Christmas single release backfired & Decca and Team Joe learned from it! :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 31, 2012, 06:22:51 PM
Me too - if it charts its a bonus.... but talking about the Christmas single release backfired & Decca and Team Joe learned from it! :)

it was different with the xmas single though, I feel. Because the album was out during his tour and he had no time at all to do any promo, apart from the following 2 weeks. Anything can happen with any single, or album. This time they have time to prepare for a single, so I have the feeling it is a deliberate choice, rather than saying: it wasn't possible last time, let's not take the risk to talk about a single this time.
I think...
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on May 31, 2012, 06:38:50 PM
Actually I think there may have been more to that whole thing anyway...... but it sure looks like they are hedging their bets whatever made them decide to do it..... and I agree the choice is deliberate ......
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on May 31, 2012, 06:44:17 PM
yes, something happened. We will probably never know what...  :jump:
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Post by: judetheobscure on May 31, 2012, 06:46:59 PM
We can guess though ;)
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Post by: s on May 31, 2012, 06:47:39 PM
We can guess though ;)

yep! that's my favourite thread ;)  :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on May 31, 2012, 09:16:49 PM
Coming out of lurking mode......

I like the idea of having 'focus track(s)' rather than going for single chart battles. As everyone knows, it is difficult for us to agree which song is the best. We like different songs and my favourite changes from time to time. Focus tracks they chose so far were not necessarily my favourites either (e.g. Classic Christmas).

I have been waiting for Joe to be introduced outside the UK for so long and to be honest, I want his 4th album to be released all over the world at the same time rather than waiting to see how well it does in the UK first then decide.
Over the last 2 years, I started to lose faith in the UK public. They seem to be happy seeing the talent show winners to flop.
I don't expect radio stations to suddenly like Joe's songs either unless he has a very unique/contemporary song.

I know what I am hoping is a bit unrealistic but so frustrating that Joe has not officially been introduced to the rest of the world. People need to know about Joe. I am sure that his duet with Dionne Warwick will help and he is doing fine but I just wanted to express my feelings.  :)
I soooo wish you would come out of lurking mode more often ... I miss your common sense posts  :wave:

I agree that is is probably better for Joe at the moment not to even attempt the singles charts - a single has to be hyped for weeks before release to make any real impact.  Would prefer to concentrate on the album charts. I think it is a clever move by Decca and one I, for one, am happy with  :cool:

Hi Hitomi, glad to see you coming out of lurking mode to post, I really do miss your posts and wish you would share your views more often.  :wave:

I would love for Joe to be introduced internationally and do hope this will happen and will be in Decca and Joe's long term career plan.

I agree with Carisma re the singles chart.  Many artists are struggling to get good chart positions, Joe's previous singles haven't been very well promoted.  There appeared to be no logic in Last Christmas being released as a single, but we are unsure of how much, if any radio play Joe will receive and what tv promo Joe will have, regardless of this I am not sure I can imagine Joe performing extremely well in the singles chart.  The albums chart is where I see Joe more well placed and would like the label to concentrate mainly on his album.
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Post by: SpanishJoeFan on May 31, 2012, 09:39:28 PM
 :wave: Hi Hitomi! Nice to see you posting.
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Post by: Trudy on May 31, 2012, 10:26:54 PM
nice  to see your  back posting  hitomi :goodpost:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on June 03, 2012, 10:36:09 AM
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1;-1&sku=776869

Moira Robson ‏@Nurseymoi
@joemcelderry91 OMG look what i've just pre-ordered..#bringonalbumfour

(https://p.twimg.com/AudI2uPCMAAj_t6.jpg)

 :hurrah: :goofy:
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Post by: s on June 03, 2012, 10:44:44 AM
they beat Mew and I to it!!!!  :joke:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 03, 2012, 10:48:21 AM
I've ordered one - will buy more after the release!!! yippee another insert to get signed by Joe on the Tour!!!!! Its happening folks Album #4........ little skippy dance....   
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Post by: carisma on June 03, 2012, 11:00:42 AM
http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/32252760/0/New-Album-TBA/ListingDetails.html

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Album-Title-TBC-Joe-McElderry/dp/B0087PL27K/13
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Post by: mihi on June 03, 2012, 11:03:46 AM
thanks, carisma but isn't it twice the same link??
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 03, 2012, 11:05:39 AM
oh dear - overpaying by jumping too soon

HMV £16 - Play.com £9.99 plus price drop promise...... :( 
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Post by: carisma on June 03, 2012, 11:07:16 AM
thanks, carisma but isn't it twice the same link??

oops edited it now :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Caroline on June 03, 2012, 11:07:45 AM
I have ordered mine of Amazon it said 17 pound to buy when ordered was only 12 pound so dont see how that works.
Album name is still to be decided.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Caroline on June 03, 2012, 11:10:35 AM
I have ordered mine of Amazon it said 17[ oops meant 15] pound to buy when ordered was only 12 pound so dont see how that works.
Album name is still to be decided.
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Post by: MEW on June 03, 2012, 12:19:31 PM
http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/32252760/0/New-Album-TBA/ListingDetails.html

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Album-Title-TBC-Joe-McElderry/dp/B0087PL27K/13
Thanks for these, I was about to check play.com then noticed you posted the link. About to order from play.

Just ordered, phew I no longer have to worry about not pre ordering it on time.
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Post by: litcar on June 03, 2012, 12:23:05 PM
Wow!!!!! I wonder why there is such a big difference in price from £16 from HMV to £15.17 from Amazon to £9.99 from Play??!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 03, 2012, 12:26:04 PM
They'll all get cheaper I reckon.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Caroline on June 03, 2012, 12:35:50 PM
when an album is released do the charts go on the number of albums that are sold or money made from sales of album.  ???
The price difference between retailers is quite a lot maybe that goes on the volume that they buy in to sell? im sure someone here will be able to enlighten me.
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Post by: MEW on June 03, 2012, 12:46:22 PM
when an album is released do the charts go on the number of albums that are sold or money made from sales of album.  ???
The price difference between retailers is quite a lot maybe that goes on the volume that they buy in to sell? im sure someone here will be able to enlighten me.
I think its the number of copies that are legally sold.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Caroline on June 03, 2012, 12:52:03 PM
thanks Mew.
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Post by: Craftie16 on June 03, 2012, 01:12:47 PM
Yeah - just ordered from Play.com - cant wait to get my hands on this  :ilovejoe:
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Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 03, 2012, 01:18:33 PM
Please remember to order each copy separately as multiple sales may count as only one... maybe... haha..
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 03, 2012, 01:54:10 PM
Just ordered my album, I will be on holiday when it is realsed so I might have to download it while I am away, as I might not be able to wait till October when we get back from America  :wavehat: :wavehat: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: SpanishJoeFan on June 03, 2012, 05:16:24 PM
I think I'm going to pre-order it from Amazon, because when I preordered Classic on Play it took them 2 and a half loooong weeks to send it to me.

When I pre-ordered Classic Christmas on Amazon it was quicker.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 03, 2012, 05:29:04 PM
My play orders have been arriving early lately so I'm ordering from them, not gonna get my hopes up though. :zen:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Anetto on June 03, 2012, 05:29:46 PM
Have just ordered my copy from Amazon. Play.com seemed to take ages to arrive last time!  :hurrah:
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Post by: Trudy on June 03, 2012, 05:48:47 PM
thanks  :thankyou:blackenroses :thankyou:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 03, 2012, 05:53:32 PM
And it's been available to pre order how long? :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on June 03, 2012, 08:19:28 PM
Don't know if this means anything but it is listed under rock/pop on HMV
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Post by: Trudy on June 03, 2012, 08:22:48 PM
think it will be more rock / pop/ --- but with ballads  too --- not classic
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 03, 2012, 08:24:03 PM
Don't know if this means anything but it is listed under rock/pop on HMV
Rock/pop is just basically pop to them, I went to HMV on Saturday and they had Classic in the pop/rock aisle (2 for £10  ;) ) along with other not so rocky albums like Steps and All Saints. If they classed it as metal, THEN I'll be worried. :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 03, 2012, 11:22:17 PM
 :thankyou: that's great news, I have started to spread the world and a few friends have pre ordered there copies. :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Pam on June 03, 2012, 11:23:27 PM
Pre ordered mine tonight   :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: tinabee on June 04, 2012, 12:23:45 AM
Pre-ordered mine earlier today too.  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on June 04, 2012, 01:30:43 AM
gonna preorder mine in the morning!!!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 04, 2012, 07:49:43 AM
The only way is up  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: pumpkin queen on June 04, 2012, 08:52:08 AM
Just ordered my copy  :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: bumblebee on June 04, 2012, 09:17:31 AM
Thats brillient Blackenroses. Be interesting to see how he holds up, after the first flurry of mad fans. :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: bryder on June 04, 2012, 09:51:14 AM
Just ordered mine from Amazon as they do seem to arrive on the release day.  So excited to hear this album and cannot wait, but lots of exciting things to be looking forward to with all the promo.   :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 05, 2012, 12:34:29 AM
 :wavehat: can't wait till it all starts which will be after his bday. I expect he will go away for a few weeks, then promo time  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 05, 2012, 12:42:06 AM
its gonna be exciting at luton for birthday then  lots more excitment for album 4 :excite: :excite:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on June 05, 2012, 08:09:30 PM
Ordered my copy, can't wait for all promo to start for album and videos. :goofy: :wavehat: :goofy: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Addicted2Joe on June 05, 2012, 08:11:07 PM
Ordered my copy, can't wait for all promo to start for album and videos. :goofy: :wavehat: :goofy: :wavehat:

me too!!  Can't be long now!
:hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 05, 2012, 09:13:36 PM
I can't wait, only just over 3 months to go  :bash: will I last that long
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on June 05, 2012, 09:34:28 PM
I think I'm going to pre-order it from Amazon, because when I preordered Classic on Play it took them 2 and a half loooong weeks to send it to me.

When I pre-ordered Classic Christmas on Amazon it was quicker.
Can you still actually order off Play Pilar?
It won't let me anymore, hasn't done for awhile, some crap to do with euro fluctuations or something!! :scream:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on June 05, 2012, 09:37:47 PM
I think I'm going to pre-order it from Amazon, because when I preordered Classic on Play it took them 2 and a half loooong weeks to send it to me.

When I pre-ordered Classic Christmas on Amazon it was quicker.
Can you still actually order off Play Pilar?
It won't let me anymore, hasn't done for awhile, some crap to do with euro fluctuations or something!! :scream:
Actually forget i said that :blush: Reentered my credit card, exact same details and it works now....odd :roll:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: SpanishJoeFan on June 05, 2012, 10:06:18 PM
I haven't ordered anything from Play recently, so I had not known, but I'm glad you sorted it out. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on June 05, 2012, 11:17:29 PM
getting really excited for this album! feeling really deprived of joe stuff at the minute, so just listening to classic christmas as haven't heard it in ages!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 05, 2012, 11:18:38 PM
I was listening to Wide Awake earlier too.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 05, 2012, 11:41:11 PM
hayley ordered from play too
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on June 07, 2012, 09:19:35 AM
Quote
Allure of Sound ‏@allureofsounds
Joe McElderry To Release New Album In September: Joe McElderry, who won season 6 of the UK X-Factor, will release... http://bit.ly/LB7IHY

ILoveMusicPop ‏@ilovemusickpop
Joe McElderry To Release New Album In September: Joe McElderry, who won season 6 of the UK X-Factor, is currentl...http://www.ilovemusicpop.org/2012/06/joe-mcelderry-to-release-new-album-in-september/

Jose Manuel López ‏@jositorudeboy
Joe McElderry sacará nuevo album en septiembre.

Diego Acevedo ‏@OldFascination
El 17 de Sept sale el disco de Joe McElderry <3

Good start... :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: BlueAngel51 on June 07, 2012, 02:51:39 PM
JAMES INGHAM ‏@JAMESINREHAB
@joemcelderry91 you're setting yourself up for a big joke there Joe. But I'll keep it clean & nice. Hope u are happy & healthy matey.

Joe McElderry ‏@joemcelderry91
@JAMESINREHAB rudeman! I'm great thanks!! Just getting album ready!  x

JAMES INGHAM ‏@JAMESINREHAB
@joemcelderry91 glad to hear it. U started training for the @LondonMarathon yet? . Shout when u have some tracks I can listen to.


@JAMESINREHAB: Joe McElderry agrees to run the @LondonMarathon RT @joemcelderry91: I told you I'm doing it next year!! There it's in writing yeah I will! X
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: SpanishJoeFan on June 07, 2012, 04:45:55 PM
Quote
Allure of Sound ‏@allureofsounds
Joe McElderry To Release New Album In September: Joe McElderry, who won season 6 of the UK X-Factor, will release... http://bit.ly/LB7IHY

ILoveMusicPop ‏@ilovemusickpop
Joe McElderry To Release New Album In September: Joe McElderry, who won season 6 of the UK X-Factor, is currentl...http://www.ilovemusicpop.org/2012/06/joe-mcelderry-to-release-new-album-in-september/

Jose Manuel López ‏@jositorudeboy
Joe McElderry sacará nuevo album en septiembre.

Diego Acevedo ‏@OldFascination
El 17 de Sept sale el disco de Joe McElderry <3
[/b]

Good start... :)

Spanish!  :-) :-) :-) 

Thanks for posting Blackenroses!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 07, 2012, 09:17:58 PM
 :goodpost:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 07, 2012, 09:40:20 PM
????? confused. I can't see that...

Cathy Clarke ‏@CathyC_73
Wooo! @joemcelderry91 's brand new album advertised on Virginmedia home page for http://Play.com! :) xx
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: mihi on June 07, 2012, 09:44:44 PM
perhaps you'd have to be a virginmedia costumer?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 07, 2012, 09:48:25 PM
maybe. I remember that the homepage wasn't the same for everyone once when we were looking at it for something Joe related.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 07, 2012, 09:48:57 PM
????? confused. I can't see that...

Cathy Clarke ‏@CathyC_73
Wooo! @joemcelderry91 's brand new album advertised on Virginmedia home page for http://Play.com! :) xx
It's probably like the ones you get on YouTube to the right, just showing the temporary cover and a link to pre-order.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on June 07, 2012, 09:52:28 PM
maybe. I remember that the homepage wasn't the same for everyone once when we were looking at it for something Joe related.

That's when the video for 'Time to Say Goodbye' was on the Virginmedia homepage. I can see the homepage on the family pc but don't know how I can't see it on my laptop. Hubby is on the pc at the moment so no chance of seeing whatever is on.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 07, 2012, 09:55:36 PM
I'm on a lappy - and with Virginmedia - I see no Joe...   :(
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 08, 2012, 08:33:50 AM
 :wavehat: great news, I hope Joe gets loads of promo  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Necara on June 08, 2012, 01:04:10 PM
Ohhhhhhh the excitement and anticipation of Joe bringing out an album? I know it well.  :hurrah: :goofy: :hurrah: :goofy: :wavehat: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 08, 2012, 04:03:39 PM
excited for album 4 :excite:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on June 08, 2012, 05:52:43 PM
So excited about this  :goofy: :wavehat: although I will be on holiday so will have to wait until I get back to listen to it.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 08, 2012, 08:46:18 PM
I am away too Cassi  :wavehat:  :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 09, 2012, 02:19:31 AM
i really hope album 4 -- gets the right promo/ publicity / for it to be ahit. :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on June 09, 2012, 07:40:05 AM
With all these high expectations...I'm terrified!  :peek:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on June 09, 2012, 11:14:41 AM
if i've done my maths right earlier, it's only 100 days to go!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on June 09, 2012, 12:36:24 PM
I am away too Cassi  :wavehat:  :hurrah:

What are we like going on holiday when Joe's albums released. :haha: :haha: Will be wishing the days away until I come home. :rofl2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on June 09, 2012, 01:09:45 PM
if i've done my maths right earlier, it's only 100 days to go!

Oh do we need one of those countdown threads like we used to have on Joe-Music?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 09, 2012, 01:26:59 PM
Mcelderrymagic does the countdown to it on twitter if that helps
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: marylou on June 09, 2012, 05:28:09 PM
My sister and a friend birthdays is on the 17th September and I shall buy them Joe's 4th Album for their pressie.... How lucky are they??.... ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 09, 2012, 05:34:09 PM
My sister and a friend birthdays is on the 17th September and I shall buy them Joe's 4th Album for their pressie.... How lucky are they??.... ;)

are they fans? if not, just give and run..... :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on June 09, 2012, 05:42:04 PM
I am away too Cassi  :wavehat:  :hurrah:

What are we like going on holiday when Joe's albums released. :haha: :haha: Will be wishing the days away until I come home. :rofl2:

I'm going away to Italy for a few days on 20th September.  Might stop me stressing about chart positions lol. Will be listening to Joe the whole time I'm sure, going away with Joe friends so that won't be an issue, it will be expected.  :D
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sug60 on June 09, 2012, 06:27:14 PM
Hayley even though you will be in Italy i am sure you will be worrying about Joe's chart position its in your blood what are we like always got Joe in our thoughts can think of nothing better. We are in Portugal from 4 - 11 September so will be back for album release so exciting. We have made a lot of friends that work in the hotel we always go to so will have to spread the word about Joe. There is a beach bar that always has music playing will have to take a sample of Joe you never know they might just play it! :ilovejoe: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 09, 2012, 08:15:01 PM
 :wavehat: I can't wait  :wavehat:  we need a count down clock on here, like they have on the Olympic site.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on June 09, 2012, 09:25:22 PM
Just ordered my cd from Amazon. Got a surprise as the price is £9.99 now. :hurrah: :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on June 09, 2012, 09:52:35 PM
 :wavehat: Ordered mine too but estimated delivery date is the 20th!!!!! never mind will be downloading it too.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on June 09, 2012, 09:55:08 PM
Your right Sug60, I never stop worrying and thinking about Joe.  :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on June 09, 2012, 09:55:54 PM
:wavehat: Ordered mine too but estimated delivery date is the 20th!!!!! never mind will be downloading it too.

I know it said the 20th but I'm pinning my hopes on the word 'estimated' so I'm hoping that it might arrive early, and like you I'll be downloading it too.  :hurrah: :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 10, 2012, 06:35:10 PM
I will download it too.  Can you download it before 17th Sept ??????
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 10, 2012, 06:49:42 PM
I will download it too.  Can you download it before 17th Sept ??????
In Ireland you should be able to the Friday before.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 10, 2012, 06:54:58 PM
Ok thanks Mew xx
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 10, 2012, 07:18:26 PM
I will download it too.  Can you download it before 17th Sept ??????

it's only available to download on the day it is released. It means that on the sunday night, when the clock rings midnight, it will be available  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on June 10, 2012, 07:36:14 PM
With all these high expectations...I'm terrified!  :peek:

Me too Tacom ... excited but slightly terrified  :D
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on June 10, 2012, 07:38:16 PM
With all these high expectations...I'm terrified!  :peek:

Me too Tacom ... excited but slightly terrified  :D

Oh and me.  Excited but bricking it slightly at the same time.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 10, 2012, 08:06:46 PM
It will be fine guys, I was worried about Classic and that did very well.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on June 10, 2012, 09:51:24 PM
With all these high expectations...I'm terrified!  :peek:

Me too Tacom ... excited but slightly terrified  :D

Oh and me.  Excited but bricking it slightly at the same time.

Likewise!!! :nervous:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 10, 2012, 11:35:51 PM
really hope joes album4 does really great  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Liz on June 10, 2012, 11:49:25 PM
really hope joes album4 does really great  :wavehat:
Me too, really really really really great  :-)  :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 11, 2012, 04:38:12 PM
Me three  :wavehat: :wavehat: :wavehat: :wavehat:  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 11, 2012, 04:44:16 PM
joe is probably busy listening to all the mixed tracks today  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 11, 2012, 04:46:42 PM
 :wavehat: :wavehat: perhaps Hugo is having a little bop as well  :rofl3:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 11, 2012, 05:28:45 PM
that would be funny poppet hugo bopping to joes music :bunny2: :bunny2:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Sug60 on June 11, 2012, 05:37:42 PM
Well nothing better Trudy than bopping to daddies music oh how i would love to be Hugo  :-)

I am so looking forward to this album, like a lot of you i am hoping and praying that Joe will do well with it but hey we were worried about Classic and that was okay so we must all have faith in our talented geordie boy he will do us proud i am sure  :ilovejoe: :wavehat: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 11, 2012, 05:43:03 PM
actually im really looking forward to this album 4  and the joe originals  :ten:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on June 11, 2012, 06:38:24 PM
I was not worried with Classic, although when I found out it was recorded in just 6 days I thought...what???

I was very very very worried about Classic Christmas, and that turned out to be a succes as well.

I just want him to get recognised and aknowledged for the talent he is. I really hope he will have some epic songs and excellent production.

I do worry about the songs he (co) wrote, I do hope they will be on this album because they are great songs, and not just because everyone sees cowriting as the thing to do to get recognised.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 11, 2012, 06:44:49 PM
He confirmed that 3 of his own songs (may be co-written) will be on the album didn't he?!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on June 11, 2012, 06:46:17 PM
Yes he did SandyP, but I hope they will be on this album for the right reasons.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 11, 2012, 06:50:51 PM
Oh, you mean you are worried about the quality of the songs, and that they might put them on there just because he wrote them, to give him credibility (or jot if they are not good)?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on June 11, 2012, 06:53:23 PM
Yep that is my worry.

But believe me, I hope to be proven wrong of course!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on June 11, 2012, 06:53:31 PM
Well I think if they are on there its because they are brilliant  :-) I think Joe said one of the songs he wrote himself . I can't wait for this album . Yaaaay way to go Joe   :wavehat:  :wavehat:  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 11, 2012, 07:00:25 PM
Yep that is my worry.

But believe me, I hope to be proven wrong of course!

I am so positive today, I will say it will be amazing!! And it will change a few people's mind. Don't think it will make a miracle happen just yet, but it will prepare the path to huge success ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on June 11, 2012, 07:02:57 PM
OK I will jump on your positivetrain then  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 11, 2012, 07:04:24 PM
OK I will jump on your positivetrain then  :-)

Please do. It is a free ride!!!  :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 11, 2012, 07:27:46 PM
I don't think Decca would put Joe's songs on the album unless they were good enough.  Joe is not a dever and if they were not good enough they would have said so.  Joe would not get out of his pram if they didn't, he would just work harder to make sure some were on number 5.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on June 11, 2012, 07:31:50 PM
I hope your right Sandy.

Joe wrote and co-wrote quite a few songs for this album, not all of these tracks have made it, so I would assume the best have.  I understand your concern Taco, I am worried too. However all of the songwriters at songcamp seemed to be impressed with Joe's song writing skills. Hilda and Eileen seemed to think Joe's songs were good, so they must be lol.  :wink:

I think Joe would prefer the best songs to be on the album regardless of if he penned them or not, this album is very important to Joe and I think the fans and Joe knows this.  I'm sure it's an important album for Decca too, trying new terrority with them and moving away from the Classic era, I'm sure everyone involved would want the best songs they can get.

Postive hat on.  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on June 11, 2012, 07:35:48 PM
Ok Ok, I will be on the free ride on that positivetrain, with my positive hat on !  :-)  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 11, 2012, 07:42:10 PM
 another one riding this  POSITIVE  TRAIN  TO JOES ALBUM 4  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carm on June 11, 2012, 08:11:37 PM
Me too  :wavehat: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on June 11, 2012, 08:12:51 PM
Welcome on board ladies!  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 11, 2012, 08:29:12 PM
I'm paralysed standing on the platform..... want to jump on.....   give me a push!!!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on June 11, 2012, 08:34:19 PM
 :aggressive: Will that do?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 11, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
are you still on the platform tho Jude?  :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on June 11, 2012, 08:50:38 PM
Don't worry - I don't need to get on no positivity express. I reached destination a long time ago  :-) It's just Joe that's taking the circuitous route  :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: jadesharp1992 on June 11, 2012, 11:03:59 PM
i've got my positive hat on!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 11, 2012, 11:21:13 PM
I've always been totally positive about Joe's destination and felt comfortable with his choices....  :)

think its the talk of this album being make or break that is winding me up.....  :wacko:

perhaps I feel I shouldn't even be on the platform.... just meet Joe when he arrives at the other end....  :zen: :zen: :zen:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on June 11, 2012, 11:33:43 PM
That's my girl  :bravo:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on June 12, 2012, 09:55:50 AM
OMG! OMG!! We got the title of the album " Here's What I Believe "

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heres-What-Believe-Joe-McElderry/dp/B0087PL27K/ref=pd_rhf_dp_p_t_4

 :hurrah: :goofy: :hurrah: :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on June 12, 2012, 10:04:03 AM
Ooh - that's quite a leading title .....
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 12, 2012, 10:08:57 AM
I LOVE the title.....   echos of Affirmation..... and so different..... wow wow wow :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: JazDarcy on June 12, 2012, 10:09:42 AM
LOVE it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on June 12, 2012, 10:31:10 AM
I love it too,  :wavehat: :wavehat: not what I was expecting at all but  :thumbsup:. Even more excited for the album now if that's possible. :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 12, 2012, 10:36:33 AM
i was expecting just one word actually.
good!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Denzil on June 12, 2012, 10:42:52 AM
I was delighted with the Album title -  it says everything  as to where Joe  is at , at this point in his life - and am quite sure the content will be equally thought provoking - I cannot wait   Den    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 12, 2012, 10:54:41 AM
funny though, that he said they would decide on the title once they have done the photoshoot, if I remember well...
 :wacko:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on June 12, 2012, 11:14:23 AM
I think I like it! It is quite a 'statement' title and not what I would have expected but, yeah I think that is quite a positive thing :cool:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on June 12, 2012, 11:26:14 AM
I definitely think it will make people notice it and maybe give it a go where perhaps with a less "statement" title they wouldn't have bothered.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joefan43 on June 12, 2012, 11:30:30 AM
Loving the title of the new album  :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah: :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Peggysue/Maggs on June 12, 2012, 11:49:48 AM
I think it is such a shame the title has been revealed before Joe has had chance to tell us  :(   his thunder has been stolen yet again  :angry:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Caroline on June 12, 2012, 11:57:55 AM
I dont think his thunder would have been stolen Decca would have given it out, Amazon wouldnt print it if not from a reliable source.
I love the name, not one I would have guessed which makes it even more excting to what we are going to get from the album
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 12, 2012, 12:01:30 PM
I think it is such a shame the title has been revealed before Joe has had chance to tell us  :(   his thunder has been stolen yet again  :angry:

it's rarely announced by the artist
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: excitedbyjoe on June 12, 2012, 12:04:40 PM
I would prefer "What I Believe"- a bit snappier.

Didn't a website get the name wrong last time- or am I getting confused when "Ambitions" was called "Somebody" or "Ambitious" as a code word ?
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 12, 2012, 12:19:45 PM
I would prefer "What I Believe"- a bit snappier.

Didn't a website get the name wrong last time- or am I getting confused when "Ambitions" was called "Somebody" or "Ambitious" as a code word ?
That was the news/gossip sites, Amazon is quite different.

I just looked the title up, it doesn't seem like anyone else has called their album that before. :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on June 12, 2012, 12:28:59 PM
I think "here's what I believe" is more emphatic and therefore makes more of a statement. Makes me think the material is going to be quite personal
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 12, 2012, 12:49:45 PM
he said (on the radio show?) that it was quite personal and that when the label listened to his songs, they said: oh, I didn't know that...
 :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 12, 2012, 01:28:12 PM
maybe HERES WHAT I BELIEVE----- is a song title ( maybe the song joe wrote  himself-- the song meant to be personal ---& emotional) maybe it is along the -- affirmation  lines ------ we will  soon see -- but -- that is my guess. :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on June 12, 2012, 01:36:36 PM
http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/artists/joe-mcelderry/icat/joemcelderry/
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 12, 2012, 01:42:14 PM
thanks  :thankyou: blackenroses
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: bumblebee on June 12, 2012, 01:42:25 PM
OMG! OMG!! We got the title of the album " Here's What I Believe "

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heres-What-Believe-Joe-McElderry/dp/B0087PL27K/ref=pd_rhf_dp_p_t_4

 :hurrah: :goofy: :hurrah: :goofy:

Wow, loving this title.  :)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 12, 2012, 01:43:07 PM
http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/artists/joe-mcelderry/icat/joemcelderry/
Thanks, I've added it to the where to buy Joe's albums thread. :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on June 12, 2012, 01:45:20 PM
 :thankyou:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 12, 2012, 01:46:02 PM
I think we can take it that #HeresWhatIBelieve is the official title! http://store.universal-music.co.uk/invt/0602537087327?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AddThis&utm_campaign=UMG%2BStores
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 12, 2012, 01:54:51 PM
Judging by Joe's latest tweet and hashtag, it's definitely true.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on June 12, 2012, 02:10:19 PM
Hayley Downes ‏@Hubz1988
@joemcelderry91 Is #HeresWhatsIBelieve a song title? Perhaps a track you wrote? X

Joe McElderry ‏@joemcelderry91
@Hubz1988 sure is :) xx
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Susie D on June 12, 2012, 02:11:16 PM
Ooh! This is getting really exciting!! I really love the title. :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 12, 2012, 02:12:49 PM
Hope no one minds I've changed the thread title. :snigger:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on June 12, 2012, 02:17:00 PM
MusicSales Film&TV ‏@MusicSalesUK
@joemcelderry91 Cannot wait to hear it lovely! #HeresWhatIBelieve
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 12, 2012, 02:18:11 PM
wooopy hayley got answer on twitter --- and like i said --  heres what i believe is  a song title --- a song joe wrote ------mmmmm maybe im mystic meg  :hurrah: :goofy: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on June 12, 2012, 02:22:23 PM
I think "here's what I believe" is more emphatic and therefore makes more of a statement. Makes me think the material is going to be quite personal

Yes me too. The album track sounds like an album of personal emotional tracks.

This is all so exciting! Feels real all of a sudden.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on June 12, 2012, 02:26:34 PM
United Kingdom trends · Change
#WhatMakesMeHappy
#policingdebate
#HeresWhatIBelieve
Civ II
Church of England
Spiderman or Ironman
Falkland Islands
Danny Boyle
Ed Miliband
Famous Teenager Line
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 12, 2012, 02:26:53 PM
 :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 12, 2012, 02:28:41 PM
Not surprised its trending really. He's getting a lot lately isn't he? ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on June 12, 2012, 02:29:49 PM
Worldwide trends · Change
#WhatMakesMeHappy
Taylor Is Our Swiftberry
#BieberFreeConcertSingapore
#HeresWhatIBelieve
Share Everything
Brazil Needs Free JB Concert
Umut Bulut'u
Sabri Ülker
Tiago Leifert
Demi Is Girlfriend Of Lovatics


Its even trending worldwide!!!!!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: bumblebee on June 12, 2012, 02:32:11 PM
Worldwide trends · Change
#WhatMakesMeHappy
Taylor Is Our Swiftberry
#BieberFreeConcertSingapore
#HeresWhatIBelieve
Share Everything
Brazil Needs Free JB Concert
Umut Bulut'u
Sabri Ülker
Tiago Leifert
Demi Is Girlfriend Of Lovatics


Its even trending worldwide!!!!!!

It's at no 1 now. :-)


Worldwide trends
· Change
#HeresWhatIBelieve
#WhatMakesMeHappy
#BieberFreeConcertSingapore
Taylor Is Our Swiftberry
Brazil Needs Free JB Concert
Sabri Ülker
Umut Bulut'u
Tiago Leifert
Rise & Grind
Demi Is Girlfriend Of Lovatics
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 12, 2012, 02:38:12 PM
Wow... Good work guys. :lol:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: cassi on June 12, 2012, 02:39:01 PM
Fantastic. :goofy: :wavehat: :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 12, 2012, 02:40:00 PM
wow  no1 trend  :hurrah: :goofy: :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on June 12, 2012, 02:41:45 PM
 :goofy: :hurrah: :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 12, 2012, 03:12:54 PM
United Kingdom trends · Change
#HeresWhatIBelieve
#WhatMakesMeHappy
#policingdebate
Ed Miliband
Famous Teenager Lines
Church of England
CofE
SPL
Rangers
John Major
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: louisew on June 12, 2012, 03:20:11 PM
   :hurrah:   :goofy:   :goofy:   :hurrah:   :hurrah:    :goofy:   :goofy:    :hurrah:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 12, 2012, 03:26:11 PM
no1 trend :excite: :hurrah: :goofy: :wavehat: ---- and hayley got a tweet& a retweet from joe  :wavehat: :excite:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on June 12, 2012, 03:49:56 PM
United States trends · Change
Victim 1
#HeresWhatIBelieve
#WhatMakesMeHappy
Elinor Ostrom
#ReplaceASongWithTara
We Will Always Love You Justin
Rise & Grind
Father's Day
iOS 6
Skip Bayless


Its even trending in the US!!! :hurrah: :goofy:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on June 12, 2012, 03:57:29 PM
Also trending in The Netherlands and Malaysia  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Craftie16 on June 12, 2012, 03:59:52 PM
 :hurrah:  thats amazing - just watched the video - I couldnt watch it on my iphone on way home  :angry:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on June 12, 2012, 04:01:23 PM
Trending in Canada aswell!!!!  :hurrah: :goofy: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on June 12, 2012, 04:01:29 PM
Also trending in The Netherlands and Malaysia  :wavehat:

 :hurrah: :D
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 12, 2012, 04:01:36 PM
:hurrah:  thats amazing - just watched the video - I couldnt watch it on my iphone on way home  :angry:
I couldn't watch it on my iPad this morning either, I had to actually get out of bed.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 12, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
trouble is - if you look at the trendingtweets not many mention Joe - and unless we add his name and that its his album we've lost a promo opportunity....
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 12, 2012, 04:20:51 PM
trouble is - if you look at the trendingtweets not many mention Joe - and unless we add his name and that its his album we've lost a promo opportunity....
This is what I said in the tweet thread. :jump:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 12, 2012, 04:31:40 PM
you are taking this a bit too seriously...  :roll:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 12, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
no he isn't - Mew is right....  :rofl2:

Promo is a serious business and this is free promo....  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Denzil on June 12, 2012, 04:50:40 PM
You will just have to bombard twitter to say this link is too do with Joe McElderry UK X Factor winner - that may well wake them up - fingers crossed x
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on June 12, 2012, 04:53:40 PM
Yup - people will click on the topic and we have to get enough mentions of Joe on the page to grab their attention - sadly I'm not going to be much use doing this as Tuesday is my here there and everywhere day but I'll do what I can.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 12, 2012, 04:54:11 PM
You will just have to bombard twitter to say this link is too do with Joe McElderry UK X Factor winner - that may well wake them up - fingers crossed x
I was gonna tweet something like, if you're not talking about Joes album then go away, but I thought that would be mean. I've already made someone delete their comment on DS today. :zip1:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on June 12, 2012, 05:25:23 PM
Another big release out on Sept 17

Muse - The 2nd Law (can't wait!!  :snigger:)
Micheal Jackson - Bad 25th Anniversary Edition
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 12, 2012, 05:40:26 PM
Nelly Furtados releasing something on that day too.

I'm not that worried about MJ, there's already a special edition of Bad out.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Craftie16 on June 12, 2012, 05:42:34 PM
Nelly Furtados releasing something on that day too.

I'm not that worried about MJ, there's already a special edition of Bad out.

and its pricey as well I think it is £35
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: KR51 on June 12, 2012, 05:45:09 PM
Also I read that Lady Gaga is releasing an album in Sept, hope its not the same week!!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: MEW on June 12, 2012, 05:49:15 PM
Nelly Furtados releasing something on that day too.

I'm not that worried about MJ, there's already a special edition of Bad out.

and its pricey as well I think it is £35
Thriller 25 certainly wasn't that expensive (the version I got anyway)

I doubt Lady Gaga would have one out the same week, they would have announced it AGES ago! Unless it's a remix album or something, which we won't have to worry about.
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: litcar on June 12, 2012, 06:07:37 PM
Getting confused with these two threads, one is a chart and on is when it comes out. Sorry if I posted in the wrong thread  before but they both show the same title.  :wacko: :haha:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: s on June 12, 2012, 06:14:08 PM
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Lisa ‏@lisa_in_music
@joemcelderry91 [dimples] hell, what an afternoon! :) #HeresWhatIBelieve
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: queenie4joe on June 12, 2012, 06:29:59 PM
 :hurrah: :hurrah: So much great news today regarding 4th album - ' Here's what I believe'-  I believe in Joe is all I can add, and love him to pieces!
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on June 12, 2012, 07:13:33 PM
I'll be moving all the chart positions posts into the other thread later this evening so if you could put any chart updates in there that would be appreciated ;)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: roec on June 12, 2012, 07:27:43 PM
wow exciting day!!! :hurrah:
& as usual i miss most of the action in work :(
I really like the title but made me kinda scared hearing it at the same time!!! :D
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on June 12, 2012, 07:28:19 PM
If I was excited (but terrfied) about this album before, I think I am even more terrified (but excited) about it now.  It sounds as though it may be quite an emotional album and I think it may mean more personally to Joe than the other three - it is such a personal title. 

Edit: You posted whilst I was typing Roec - it kind of makes me scared too  :D
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Craftie16 on June 12, 2012, 07:32:57 PM
If I was excited (but terrfied) about this album before, I think I am even more terrified (but excited) about it now.  It sounds as though it may be quite an emotional album and I think it may mean more personally to Joe than the other three - it is such a personal title. 

Edit: You posted whilst I was typing Roec - it kind of makes me scared too  :D

 :goodpost: Carisma  Me to - I thnk we might be needing loads of these  :tissue:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on June 12, 2012, 07:35:06 PM
You just beat me to it Craftie . I think we had better stock pile the Kleenex   :tissue:  :cry:  :cry:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Tacom on June 12, 2012, 07:38:11 PM
If I was excited (but terrfied) about this album before, I think I am even more terrified (but excited) about it now.  It sounds as though it may be quite an emotional album and I think it may mean more personally to Joe than the other three - it is such a personal title. 

Edit: You posted whilst I was typing Roec - it kind of makes me scared too  :D

I agree Carisma

I feel totally the same.
I won't post much about it, just thinkin of it makes me shriver.
This title is such a personal one, so this album must mean the world to him, and we all know he deserves a huge succes, but we also know a bit bout the recording business and charts stuff
Im petrified! :tissue:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Hayley on June 12, 2012, 07:46:34 PM
If I was excited (but terrfied) about this album before, I think I am even more terrified (but excited) about it now.  It sounds as though it may be quite an emotional album and I think it may mean more personally to Joe than the other three - it is such a personal title. 

Edit: You posted whilst I was typing Roec - it kind of makes me scared too  :D

Agree, Agree, Agree.  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: carisma on June 12, 2012, 07:52:21 PM
I felt quite emotional reading all the posts today at work, so god knows how I will feel hearing this album if it is as I imagine it. 
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Poppet68 on June 12, 2012, 08:44:05 PM
Here's What I Believe  :wavehat:  :wavehat:

Joe is amasing, Joe is talented, Joe is kind, Joe is caring. Joe is handsome, Joe is the best, Joe is number 1

That's what I BELIEVE  :wavehat:  :ilovejoe: :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: joan46 on June 12, 2012, 08:45:20 PM
 :goodpost: And you are so so so right Poppet   :wavehat:  :wavehat:  :wavehat:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Anetto on June 12, 2012, 09:11:13 PM
Here's What I Believe  :wavehat:  :wavehat:

Joe is amasing, Joe is talented, Joe is kind, Joe is caring. Joe is handsome, Joe is the best, Joe is number 1

That's what I BELIEVE  :wavehat:  :ilovejoe: :ilovejoe:

Agree with every word Poppet! :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 12, 2012, 11:19:25 PM
HERES WHAT I BELIEVE ------- JOES ALBUM IS GOING TO BE PERSONAL TO JOE AND WILL MEAN SOOOOOO MUCH TO JOE-- IM EXCITED AND EMOTIONAL ABOUT  IT  AS JOES A LOVLEY BEAUTIFUL GUY  WITHA BEAUTIFUL VOICE   AND WANT IT TO SUCCEED  :ilovejoe: :ten:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: blackenroses on June 13, 2012, 07:43:41 AM
Victoria Grimshaw ‏@TeamBrianneD
On the Breakfast fix on tv they were talking about @joemcelderry91 forth album :D

Whatever it is, yay!!! Good promo! :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Necara on June 13, 2012, 11:04:04 AM
Flippin Eck! Love the title and I am now in raptures. I have a really good feeling about this album. Sounds like he is going to tell the story.  :ilovejoe:
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Trudy on June 13, 2012, 11:10:34 AM
i have great feelings about this album ----- even from the title heres what i believe --- i think it will come from joes heart  :-)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: marylou on June 13, 2012, 11:18:26 AM
The album is set to include collaborations with Marcella Detroit and Ludovico Einaudi.[100] It will be released on 17 September   sorry If these names are somewhere already on here.. but any info ???
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: judetheobscure on June 13, 2012, 12:17:01 PM
The names are already somewhere - probably some way back on this thread. What kind of info do you want?
SandyPandy is probably the one to tell you about Einaudi.

Marcella Detroit is from Shakespears Sisters and has co-written a song with Joe. She came third in PopStar to OperaStar in 2010 (but was in my opinion the best!)
Title: Re: Here's What I Believe - the Album - release date 10th September
Post by: Ping - Annie L on June 13, 2012, 12:37:14 PM

Marce